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Delhi’s extra mile

March 2, 2010

by Moin Ansari | Rupee News

Prime Minster Manmohan Singh has once again reiterated that “Delhi can walk the extra mile” if–this that and the other. This was the same line used by Jawahlal Nehru in 1948 about Kashmir. He kept on promising a plebiscite and kept on absorbing Kashmir into Bharat (aka India). This was the same line used by the leaders of Delhi in 1962 when the Chinese leaders had asked Pakistan to join in the battle and liberate Kashmir. Pakistan’s Ayub Khan ignored the advice of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and listened to the American promises on Kashmir. This is the same line used by Indira Gandhi in 1969 during talks on Kashmir. A couple of years later General Mankeshaw was recruiting 80,000 Hindus into the Mukti Bahni in the largest case of state sponsored and cross border terrorism known to the world. This is the same line used by Mr. Vaypayee while his cohorts were massacring 3000 Muslims in Gujarat.
Bharat has used the same line for China, Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan, Lanka and Bangladesh. All have been victims of Bharati terror.
ON BOARD AIR INDIA ONE: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Monday reiterated that all problems between India and Pakistan could be resolved through meaningful bilateral dialogue if only Pakistan would take a more reasonable attitude to deal with terrorist elements who targeted India.


“I hope that the world community gets the right message that India is a victim of terrorism. That we have a situation where our neighbour has promised, unambiguously, not to allow its territory to be used for perpetrating terrorist acts directed against India and yet on the ground progress has been rather nil,” he said in reply to a question by this correspondent. The Prime Minister is returning home after a three-day visit to Saudi Arabia.
Elaborating, Dr. Singh said: “We are living today in an increasingly interdependent world and whosoever I meet — the world leaders — I convey to them that all problems between India and Pakistan can be resolved through meaningful bilateral dialogue if only Pakistan would take a more reasonable attitude in dealing with those terrorist elements who target our country.”
His observations came within hours of his address at the Majlis al-Shura in Riyadh, where he chose to dwell upon India-Pakistan relations, stressing that India can walk the extra mile to open a new chapter in relations between the two countries. “If Pakistan cooperates with India, there is no problem that we cannot solve.”
Dr. Singh’s observations at the Shura carry special significance as they were delivered in the land that is considered to be the cradle of Islam and he was bestowed the rare honour of addressing it.
Emphasising that India sought cooperation with Pakistan , Dr. Singh told the Shura members that India’s objective was permanent peace because it recognised that both the countries were bound by a shared future. “If there is cooperation between India and Pakistan, vast opportunities will open up for travel, trade and development that will create prosperity in both countries and in South Asia as a whole. But to realise this vision, Pakistan must act decisively against terrorism.” Manmohan: we can walk extra mile if Pakistan cooperates by Vinay Kumar, “Islamabad must deal with terrorist elements who target India” .
The Saudi parliament was in stitches at the speech made by Mr. Manmohan Singh. They went home laughing–calling their banker to transfer more funds to the Lashkars, Jaishes, and Jamaats in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Bharat has been talking for six decades and has been unable to resolve a boundary dispute with any of her neighbors. She has been promising talks to Pakisitan without any results.
Assured failure: Why talk with India?
Peace is always in the mutual interest of parties tied up in conflict. One party does not do the other party any favors. It is the height of arrogance to convey the impression that peace talks are a reward for good behavior of one party. By portraying Pakistan as the guilty party, Delhi sabotages any prospect for peace. If the Americans and the Russians can smoke the peace pipe, so can the Indians and the Pakistanis–however it has to be done on the basis of dignity and mutual respect, not diktat and dictation.
Delhi’s extra mile
IT was interesting to see Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir adopt a strong position on the dialogue with India once he had crossed back into Pakistan from what was to all intents and purposes a futile dialogue in New Delhi. He declared quite correctly that India needed to alter its perception about Pakistan which was not desperate to pursue a “cosmetic” dialogue process with India. He also referred to India’s pursuit of “petty issues” while Pakistan sought the resumption of the composite dialogue process.
Assured failure: Why talk with India?
Pakistan seeks peace with India as an equal partner, not as a reward for good behaviour
Unfortunately, the main issue remains why Pakistan chose to go to New Delhi […] The gap between the two sides was evident from the inability to even do a joint press conference, let alone put forward a joint statement. So what was the point of wasting the country’s meagre resources and take this meaningless trip to New Delhi?
India Pakistan meet fails as expected. Why talk?
Islamabad Delhi Peace talks on basis of equality.
Pakistan should stop showing enthusiaism for resumption of meaningless dialogue with Delhi
India has also not altered its hard line posturing, with India’s External Affairs Minister Krishna telling Parliament that the composite dialogue could only be resumed after restoration of “greater trust”. This is a diplomatic joke since there is no trust to begin with so it is not an issue of “greater trust” being restored, but of some basic trust being established. And that can only come through a meaningful dialogue where the two sides move towards conflict resolution. Mere dialogue on peripheral issues will not create any trust whatsoever. Of course, right now the Indians are playing a “blow hot, blow cold” diplomatic game with Pakistan. On the one hand we have Krishna’s statement and on the other hand, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, outside of India, declares in Saudi Arabia that Pakistan and India have no choice but to talk to each other as dialogue is the only option for them. Pakistan should not be fooled by empty words which are not reflected in the Indian leadership’s actions.
The Case against transit trade to India
The resilience of Pakistan and the nation’s continuing collective refusal to do what the west would like it to do
With all these seemingly contradictory but actually well-orchestrated statements coming out of New Delhi, Pakistan needs to step back and play a waiting game before continuing with the present futile dialogue. Unless India is prepared to talk through the composite dialogue framework, there is little purpose in having more “dialogue” meetings. India’s real intent is reflected in its new $32 billion defence budget – a four percent increase, signifying a growing militarization of India’s external policies. The message from New Delhi could not be clearer for Pakistan.
The pugnacious Pakistanis
THE PAKISTANI RESILIENCE IN THE FACE OF THREATS: Mountbatten, Nehru, Mohandas Gandhi, Indira, Kruschev, Johnson, Carter, Kissinger, Nixon, Gorbachev, Clinton, Armitage, Bush, Karzai, Vajpayee, Singh, Petraeus, Obama have all threatened Pakistan: The Pakistanis are used to it…so what else is new?!! Pakistan’s Nuclear Missiles & Plutonium bombs repudiate the attacks
There is much in common between India and Pakistan, but there is much that separates the countries. Mere cultural affinity and anathema to religion cannot wish the differences away. Bharat must recognize that Pakistanis do not see Delhi as the perfect model to emulate on anything. Therefore Delhi must stop wishing for a Pakistan in its own image. There are many routes to success, and Pakistanis admire the Chinese a lot more than they admire Indians.
It is not Delhi’s god given right to rule Kabul. Nor does Bharat extend from Kabul to the Raj Kalhani in the East. Bharati religions preach the eternal history of Bharat beyond its borders. If Bharat is a secular country then this transnational dreams of a greater Bharat must be brought back to reality. Every time Adhvani and Modi open their mouths, peace is sent back a decade.
Good relations with Pakistan begin with better treatment of Muslims in Bharat–beginning with the Kashmiris, but not just limited to them. The Gujaratis and the other downtrodden Muslims in Bharat must be treated as equal citizens, and things must move beyond tokenism (Azad, Fakharuddin & Kalam).

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13 comments

  1. Manmohan alongwith indian banya leadership are an army of hypocrites. On one hand they hue and cry that they are victims of terrorism but on the other hand (under hand) get together with American CIA and Israeli MOSSAD with their terror network RAW destablising every neighbouring country and killing innocent kashmiris. They are stockpiling the weapons with their offence but not defence budget exceeding $32 billions – who on earth be stupid enough to believe on statements such as EXTRA MILE walking to peace. The writer is correct in saying that india’s state sponsored terrorism is not limited to kashmir only but goes to every nation which is bordering to this evil india is victim of their terrorist activities. MUKTI BAHNI, TTP & TAMIL TIGERS are very recent india sponsored terrorists alongwith BLA in balauchistan so what the hell the indians are talking about with crocodile tears that they are the victims please stop pakistan when they are the ones ruining the peace of the world. They could not impress US and NATO with their crocodile tears to give them a big role in Afghanistan and now their propoganda starts again with dummy dialogue offers to pakistan to fool the world but banya ji the world is not budging on your crocodile tears anymore and they know who is criminal and who is innocent here. SHAME ON YOU BANYA – THE EPICENTER OF TERROR


    • tch tch tch…. cry baby.

      by the way, what’s a BANYA?


      • lol lol

        You amused ..guys like u are a bunya ..who are malus without a toilet..hahahahahahahaha

        And please …we dont want delhi’s openly defecated mile..it must be smelly like anything else…hahahahahaha

        Rubbish !


      • The cream of the baniyas are,Swami Nithyananda and Kalki Bhagwan like.Mallu prostitutes are perpherals.


  2. The Baniya Khatris can not be trusted with anything. So let us stop waisting time, money and energy with this “dialogue” mantra and accept that India will never give up its claim on the Muslim state of Kashmir. The only way forward is the support of the Kashmiri Mujaheddin. We should arm them with basic missile technology which can fire on the occupation camps from atleast 10-25 km away.

    AND it is time we blew those dams to oblivion by which the Baniya Khatris are stealing our water. If Israel can bomb the Iraqi nuclear plant then so can we bomb these dams for being a mortal danger to our future. Babur Cruise should be used now!


    • sure. attack us now and pakistan will cease to exist as a country


      • I WOULD RECOMMENT YOU BETTER READ YOUR HINDUSTAN history, Muslim Ruler from centuries, Rule India with peace and give equal rights to all peoples of India, whether Hindu, christains or muslim.

        King Akber (Mughal Ruler)
        Shah Jahan (Mughal Ruler)
        Tipu Saltan

        and Many More Ruler…….

        Muslim rules india for almost Thousand years, they never create bloodsheds and terrorism in India among hindus.

        What is your hindu leaders Problem Since independence ?

        Why did you occupy kashmir ??(Muslim Populated Area and United Nation has put this state into pakistan.

        Why did you occupy Hydrabad State ???

        Why did you occupy Junna Garh Muslim state ???

        Why Indian Army is Killing Innocent Kishmiries Since 1948 ?????

        Why Hindustan creating problem in Sri Lanka, Nepal, Butan, Bangladesh ????? known to the whole world

        Why Hindustan stop the water of River of Pakistan ????

        IF any body fight for it’s independence in kashmir, you called him Terrorist ???

        Have you ever look what terrorism you are doing in kashmir since 1948 hmm ????

        Why are you Supporting the Terrorism in Balochistan, as you should not have any concern with this matter ????

        Terrorism in India has been planted by your own Ruling Elite, by your own Security Agency RAW, by your own selfish leader and army.

        Your own army and RAW is killing you my friend ???

        Pakistan do not have time to do such bad things, it’s your own extremist parties who are doing terrorism in India.

        So that India finds a solid reason to not negotiate with pakistan on my issue like kashmir, water issues and many more.

        They are doing the same thing America has done by the help of 9/11, 9/11 was done by american and Israel itself and put the blame on muslims.

        Similarily Bombay attack and other to come has been done by India itself so that india get an support of India peoples to attack on pakistan or to alway ignore pakistan.

        See your and our politians are making us foul, we must understand the Great Conspiracy Theory putting on us by these Devil Leaders of the world.

        They are not bring our similarity together but bring close our difference so that they keep on making money and profit from our fights

        Wake up Wakeup please

        If you want my help in understanding the Great Conspiracy, i can provide the Facts and video Documentary on that

        Wakeup wakeup


      • Actually Kashmir is not India! So by destrying a couple of dams in IOK will not be an attack on it.

        As for the empty threats: keep them to your self. We have seen what you Baniya can or can not do. You pleople chickened out after the parliment drama and then after the Bombay drama. So take your threats to someone who is actually afraid of you people. We aint!

        “Amused”: when you stop acting like a child and actually come up with anything knowledge based? Or maybe it is too much to ask from a guy who believe in the Ram-Sita mambo jambo?


    • It amusing how Pakis think. But then again, maybe their brains were in their foreskin !!


  3. !
    طیبہ ضیاء ـ 1 گھنٹہ 27 منٹ پہلے شائع کی گئی بھارتی اخبارات کی رپورٹ کے مطابق بھارتی وزیر اعظم منموہن سنگھ اور ان کے ہمراہ 100 رکنی وفد کا ریاض پہنچنے پر فقید المثال استقبال کیا گیا۔منموہن سنگھ کے حالیہ دورہ سعودی عربیہ سے 28برس پہلے اندرا گاندھی نے سعودی عرب کا دورہ کیا تھا جبکہ 1955میں شاہ عبد العزیز بھارت کا دورہ کر چکے تھے جس کے دوسرے برس پنڈت لال نہرو نے سعودی عرب کا دورہ کیا ۔یاد رہے کہ شاہ عبداللہ بھی 2006 میں بھارت کا دورہ کر چکے ہیں۔وزیر اعظم اور ان کے وفد کا قیام شاہ سعود کے محل میں کیا گیاجہاں اب تک کسی بھی بیرونی مہمان کو یہ اعزاز حاصل نہیں ہو سکا۔بھارتی وزیر اعظم کے دو باورچی بھی ان کے ہمراہ گئے ہیں جو ان کے لئے پسندیدہ مشروبات اور ترکاریاں بنانے کے ماہر ہیں جبکہ بھارتی وزیر اعظم کی غذا کے بارے میں سکیورٹی مقصود ہے۔منموہن سنگھ کے دورہ سعودی عربیہ کا مقصد سعودی عرب اور بھارت کے تعلقات کو مستحکم، دفاعی حکمت عملی کے معاہدے پر دستخط اور اقتصادی تعلقات کا آغاز کرنا ہے۔منموہن سنگھ دورہ سعودی عربیہ کے دوران بھی دورہ امریکہ والی راگنی الاپ رہے ہیں۔ دہشت گردی کے تناظر میں پاکستان کے بارے میں تحفظات کا اظہار کیا جا رہا ہے۔ بادشاہوں کی ہمدردیاں حاصل کرنے اور ان کو پاکستان کے خلاف اکسانے کی کوشش کی جا رہی ہے۔چین اور سعودی عرب کی پاکستان کے ساتھ دوستی بھارت کو برداشت نہیں ۔بھارت امریکہ اور اسرائیل پاکستان کو تنہا کر دینا چاہتے ہیں اور اس ارادے میں وہ بہت حد تک کامیاب بھی ہو چکے ہیں۔ منموہن سنگھ نے سعودی چیمبرز آف کامرس سے خطاب کے دوران سعودی عرب اور بھارت کے درمیان تجارت کو جو کہ 52 بلین تک پہنچ چکی ہے مزید فروغ دینے کی جانب توجہ دلائی ہے۔بھارت سعودی عرب کے ساتھ” شو بز امن کی آشا“ جلانے نہیں بلکہ تجارتی تعلقات کو مضبوط کرنے کےلئے گیا ہے۔سعودی عرب کے صحرا کو پاکستانی ماہرین نے ترقی یافتہ اور ماڈرن ریاست بنایا ۔سعودی بخوبی جانتے ہیں کہ پاکستانی دہشت گرد نہیں مگر بھارت اور امریکہ کے دعوے کو بھی مسترد نہیں کر سکتے اور پاکستان کا دفاع کرنے کی بجائے اسے اپنے ہاں دہشت گردی کے خاتمے کی تلقین کر رہے ہیں۔جو کبھی سعودی عرب کے محسن تھے بعدمیں” مسکین “کہلانے لگے ۔ بھارتی باشندے سعودی عرب کے تمام شعبوں میں گھس چکے ہیں۔ بظاہر مسکین دکھائی دینے والے ہندو دنیا میں اپنی جگہ بنانا جانتے ہیں جبکہ پاکستانی قوم ترقی کے مواقع سے بھر پور استفادہ نہ کر سکی۔ سعودی عرب کو پیرس بنانے والے پاکستانی آج مزدوروں کی صف میں آکھڑے ہیں۔ پاکستانیوں کو چاہئے کہ وہ خود پر ”مسکینی“ کے لیبل کے پس پشت اپنی کمزوریوں کو نظر انداز نہ کریں ۔ سعودی عرب میں اپنی ہمت منوانے جمانے کے لئے ہر شعبے میں ہنر اور مہارت حاصل کریں۔ جعلسازی سے اپنے ملک و قوم کے لئے بدنامی کا باعث مت بنیں۔ اسامہ بن لادن سعودی باشندہ تھا ۔ القاعدہ نے پاکستان کو بھی دہشت گردی میں ملوث کرنے کی کوشش کی ہے۔بھارتی وزیر اعظم اور سعودی فرمانروا پاکستان پر دہشت گردی کا الزام عائد کرنے سے پہلے اسامہ بن لادن کے شجرہ نسب کا مطالعہ کر لیں۔ القاعدہ کوئی پاکستانی نہیں بلکہ عرب باشندوں کی تنظیم ہے۔ منموہن سنگھ شاہ عبداللہ کو پاکستان کے خلاف اکسانے کی بجائے انہیں اسامہ بن لادن کی تاریخ بتائیں۔ پاکستان کو القاعدہ کے ساتھ نتھی کرنا ایک گھناﺅنی سازش ہے۔ پاکستان کو مجرم بنا دیاگیا ہے۔بھارت آج ترقی کے اس مقام پر پہنچ چکا ہے جہاںامریکہ اور سعودی عرب بھارتی وزیراعظم کی آمد پر آنکھیں بچھانے پر مجبور ہیں۔سعودی عربیہ ہندوستان کا چوتھا بڑا تجارتی شراکت دار ہے۔ سعودی عرب نے بھارت کو خام تیل کا دوگنا یعنی 40 ملین ٹن سالانہ دینے کا اعلان کیاہے۔ پاکستان میں دہشت گردی سے متعلق سعودی حکومت کی تشویش میں اضافہ ہو گیاہے اور سعودی حکومت نے پاکستان کی سیاسی قیادت کو دہشت گردی کا مقابلہ کرنے کے لئے متحد ہو نے کا مشورہ دیا ہے۔سعودی عرب پاکستان کا بڑا بھائی اور مخلص دوست ہے۔ مگر دنیائے اسلام کا بڑا بھائی مسلم ممالک کو متحد نہ کر سکا۔اسلامی ممالک متحد ہوکر دشمنان اسلام کے سامنے سیسہ پلائی دیوار بن سکتے تھے اور پھر امریکہ افغانستان کوتورا بورا بناسکتا اور نہ عراق کو کھنڈرات بنا سکتا ۔اسرائیل فلسطین کو اور بھارت کشمیر کو آزاد کر دیتا مگر سعودی عرب نے اپنے مسلم بھائیوںکو متحد اور مضبوط کرنے کی بجائے وائٹ ہاﺅس کا رخ کر لیا ۔امریکہ کے بنکوں میں سعودی خزانہ جمع ہے۔امریکہ کی معیشت کو سعودی سپورٹ حاصل ہے۔بھارت کی گاڑی بھی سعودی تیل سے چلتی ہے۔اللہ تعالیٰ نے سعودی عرب کو مال اور اسلام کی دولت سے نواز رکھاہے مگرنوبت یہاں تک آن پہنچی ہے کہ پاکستان کے ازلی دشمن بھارت کی ہدایت پر پاکستان کو ہدایات جاری کی جا رہی ہیں ۔ پاکستان کی سیاسی قیادت ہی نہیں تمام اسلامی ممالک کا متحد ہونا وقت کی اشد ضرورت ہے۔مسلم امت کا تصور مٹتاجا رہا ہے۔مسلمانوں کے لئے دنیا تنگ ہوتی جا رہی ہے جبکہ مسلم قیادت خاموش ہے۔امریکہ کے سامنے کوئی پر نہیں مارتا۔ امریکہ کے دربار میں سب گھٹنے ٹیک چکے ہیں ۔منموہن سنگھ اپنے ملک کی اکانومی کو مضبوط کرنے کے لئے امریکہ اور سعودی عرب کے دوروں پر رہتے ہیں ۔ امریکہ اور سعودی عرب کو بھی بھارت کی ضرورت ہے۔پاکستانی حکومت مذاکرات کے لئے بھارت دوڑی جاتی ہے اور بھارت کی ترکاری کھا کر لوٹ آتے ہیں۔سرکاری دورے اور وزٹ میں فرق ہوتاہے۔پاکستان کے حکمران بھارت کے کئی وزٹ کر چکے ہیں جبکہ سرکاری دورے تو منموہن سنگھ کے ہوتے ہیں۔ دنیا کی سپر پاور امریکہ اور دنیائے اسلام کی سپر پاور سعودی عرب کا بھارت کے لئے والہانہ استقبال کچھ لو کچھ دو کی بنیاد پر ہے جبکہ پاکستان میں سب کچھ ہوتے ہوئے بھی اس کے مقدر میںمسکینی لکھی جا چکی ہے ۔


    • Till 75-77,any Pakistani coming to Saudi Arabia was considered a “Daktoor”,and Pakistanis were held in high esteem.Then we,not able to provide jobs and in our desire to earn Dollars, started exporting un-skilled,illiterate,mostly not knowing how to pray,
      without in-doctrination of being a Pakistani.Their case is not different to our politicians,who spend crores to earn more crores.These Pakistanis,spend big money,selling their lands,mothers jewellary,to go to saudi arab,so that to earn more than what they spent,in the shortest possible time,legally or illegally.
      One of my friend tells me that one young man,who came on a tailor visa,ran away from his employer.Employer found him on a street with construction equipment,as he started working as a daily wage worker.Saudi caught him,put an exit visa,brought him to the airport for him to board the flight.This guy started crying very loudly on the airport,where hundreds of people of various nationalities were present,creating a scene.
      Traders did not lag behind.Their contribution to current Miskeeniat can not be ignored.
      My request to all Pakistanis,who are crying foul on Saudi behavior:Make your own accountability.Have we progressed or gone down.
      Saudis are becoming self-sufficient in many fields and do not need someone which is not highly qualified and cannot be a help in their advancement in all fields.

      Nawaz Sharif was given asylum,was put in a palace.He was given a free hand to buy from a supermarket(owned by a prince).Nawaz started with small purchases of few thousands daily.Gradually,it started increasing,and after sometime,started sending trucks daily for this purpose.
      When Royal family came to know about this,they stopped this facility completely.
      KIS KIS KO ROEN.AAWAY KA AAWA BIGRA HUA HAI


  4. if in any way saudiaa will help endia whether in economic investment or other, it will be like a proverb in urdu that apne paaon par khud hi kulhari(axe) maarengey.may Allah give us and them(ssaudis) hidayah,aameen.


    • I believe we must launch a massive program of making Saudis know Hindu religion.Statue worhipping
      is very much ,for obvious reasons,hated by Arabs.

      India has,either been sending Muslims with Arab background(IN Hyderabad,India,you can find them)as ambassadors,or other highly academic Muslims(the last one is now VP in India).
      But now they are running short.The present one has a Hindu wife and he roams around as BHEEGI BILLI.Because he took her to Makkah and was caught,and reprimanded.



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