PKKH Exclusive: Why the Chief Matters

February 12, 2010

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General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani is a man who will leave his mark on not only Pakistan, but this region and perhaps the world as a whole. Known as a “quiet man” in military and diplomatic circles, no man has ever raised more curiosity than Pakistan’s current Chief of Army Staff – whom the Americans say they cannot ‘read’.

Time magazine ranked him 20th in the list of “Leaders & Revolutionaries” of the world in 2008 and 17th in the same list in 2009. He was also named in the Newsweek “Top 50 Global Elite” and the New Statesman “The 50 people who matter today” being placed on 20th and 24th in the lists respectively.

Generals don’t go to fight. In an unprecedented move, General Kayani however did fly an F-16 fighter jet with a co-pilot to take part in an air operation against militants in the country’s northwest last year – to experience the battle first-hand – to lead from the front.

PKKH takes a candid look at the man behind the recent turn of events in the region, and discusses the extraordinary brilliance of our Commander in Chief since an early age. With exclusive never-seen-before photographs of General Kayani’s early military career.

Every son of Pak Sarzameen that joins its great Army does so with a dream nurturing in his soul; the dream of becoming a General! Yet the quest for the elusive fourth star on the shoulder is only achieved by a rare few. Gen Ashfaq Kayani is one of them.

General Kayani is a silent soldier with a pensive look and shy smile. Kayani is well known for his chain-smoking, love of golf, and of course, his brilliance on the battlefield.

It is said that the way to truly rank an officer is to ask what his inferiors think of him, and no doubt he is one of the most highly regarded men who ever took up a command stick. His reputation is famous and his leadership battle-tested, his name is mentioned with awe and respect far beyond the borders he is tasked to protect. Time magazine ranked him 20th in the list of “Leaders & Revolutionaries” of the world in 2008.

Thoughtful and contemplative, courageous and decisive, he is not one to trumpet his image. What he does, he does for his beloved Army, for his beloved people, and for this sacred soil. Since the day he took charge his every action has proven his capacity to ignore self-interest and always put Pakistan first.

The burden is heavy. With his nation under attack from every direction, wits must be sharp and vision clear. And he has proved his mettle. His breathtaking victories, from Swat to South Waziristan have dazed his enemies and earned the admiration of the entire world. Even those fools who wage war against Pakistan are forced to admit a plain truth – Pak Army consists of lions led by lions.

Great times call for great men. General Kayani is one of the many that Pakistan has produced to face its great challenges head-on. If the General personifies his Army, then Insha’Allah, the nation is safe. And how could it not be? General Kayani leads the noblest Army in the world, and the arsenal of the Muslim Ummah. In leading the defense of Pakistan, General Kayani, is very well supported by General Tariq Majeed, Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Naval Chief, and the Air force Chief. It is an Army that fears only Allah and which loves death like its enemies love life – Every Muslim mother prays for the success of Pakistan Army.

Today Pakistan wages wars on multiple fronts. While each passing day brings victory closer, it is the blessings of Allah and the brilliance of our military leadership that is making the difference.

Leadership is the key, but it is rarely born overnight. Like an exquisite sculpture, it is honed and chiseled by many thousands of hours of patient work and grit. It is very difficult to build – impossible to fake.

Early Life and Military Career

Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani was born in Gujjar Khan in 1952 and belongs to a martial tribe called Gakhars. He was born in Manghot village, Gujar Khan, suburb of Rawalpindi, known to produce Pakistan Army generals. Gen Kayani’s clan is one of the largest and most powerful in the northern Jhelum area of Pakistan’s largest province, Punjab. The harsh and arid region is famed throughout the world for only one product – soldiers. So in many ways Gen Kayani was born to do the job.

He is the son of a junior commissioned officer. He did his Matriculation and Inter from Military College Jhelum. He applied for Pakistan Army in 45th Pakistan Military Academy Long Course and received a commission on 29th of August 1971 in the 5th Battalion of the Baloch Regiment. He is also a graduate of the Infantry Officer Advanced Course, United States Army Infantry School, Fort Benning, Georgia; Command and Staff College, Quetta; the United States Army Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas; Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies, Honolulu, Hawaii; and the National Defence College, Islamabad, where he holds a masters degree in War Studies.

“He who has learned how to obey will know how to command” — Solon

Gen Ashfaq Parvaiz Kayani served as Deputy Secretary of Benazir Bhutto during her first stint as Prime Minister. He commanded 12th Infantry division as General Officer Commanding (GOC) stationed in Murree. His career progressed and he went on to serve as Director General Military Operations (DGMO) from December 2000 to September 2003. It was during his tenure as DGMO that the intense military standoff of 2001-2002 between Pakistan and India took place.

He was promoted to Lieutenant General in September 2003 and given command of the most important 10 Corps, Rawalpindi. He was then transferred to ISI in October 2004 as its Chief. It was at this time that Pakistan was suffering the beginnings of insurgencies in FATA, NWFP and Baluchistan. It was also the time of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan’s nuclear proliferation scandal.

In October 2007 he was promoted to full General and made Vice Chief of Army Staff, and on 29 November, 2007 he took over as Chief of Army Staff (COAS). He is the first ever DG ISI ever to be promoted to COAS.

Pakistan Army had been mired in politics since 1999. When Gen Ashfaq Parvaiz Kayani took command, his first directive was to order military officers not to maintain relations with politicians. Gen. Kayani got the ISI to focus on external threats and leave domestic politics alone. It was made public on February 13, 2008 that Gen Kayani had ordered the withdrawal of all military officers from Pakistan’s civil departments. This step was appreciated by the whole nation as well as the Army. Gen. Kayani as DG ISI had advised President Musharraf to refrain from removing Chief Justice Iftikhar Choudary.

Year 2008 was declared as the Year of the Soldier and directives were sent to all the formations to take steps for the betterment of all soldiers. The mega building project of General Headquarters in Islamabad was halted and the allocated money for the new GHQ was distributed among the formations to improve the living standard of jawans in Pakistan Army.

“The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war” U.S General George Patton

After 2008, steps were taken to take the Army towards professionalism. 2009 was therefore declared as a Year of Training, and directives were sent to all the formations to get back to basics. This order was observed with great energy and from late 2008 onwards, training was increased at battalion level and competitions were held on brigade and division levels. This act greatly enhanced the professionalism of the Army.

Pakistan Army Operations 2009-2010

Pakistan is passing through a painful and sensitive era as CIA-RAW sponsored Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has challenged the very security of the nation. After many negotiations the civilian government finally decided to initiate operations against this terrorist group in Malakand agency in April 2009. Operation Rah-e-Rast was fought on a limited scale and soon most militants were captured and killed. After great sacrifices and efforts from the Army and people of Malakand, the area is now peaceful.

Pakistan Army is now protecting its own interests and challenging US and NATO on issues where the Pakistani interests clash with US and NATO interests. A recent example of this was the Kerry Lugar Bill, which has a direct clash of interest with the Pakistan Army. The Army high command has expressed its reservation in the open to the media and Pakistan Government. General Kayani has made it clear to the US Authorities that Pakistan will not be responsible for the aftermath of Afghanistan mess, and Pakistan will not allow Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for Indian Intelligence network.

Pakistan Army started this operation with high spirits because on every front, all senior Army officers including General Kayani himself visited the frontline to appreciate the troops. This, along with brilliant strategy and planning led to swift results that stunned NATO commanders in Afghanistan who have been trying to pacify that nation to no avail.

Today, Operation Rah-e-Nijat is in its final stage in South Waziristan and most areas have been efficiently cleared by Pakistan Army. Once again, the Army is the pride of the nation and an example of how effective the will of the nation is, when set against the fitna of fasadi terrorists and traitors who are following Takfiri ideology.

General Kayani’s policies during his tenure have been appreciated by the whole nation and especially the troops. A soldier always gives his all when he sees his commander sharing his moments of happiness and grief. The frequent visits of Gen Kayani to operational areas not only highlighted his own leadership qualities but also boosted the morale of the troops. Under his outstanding leadership we have seen the Army and Air Force chiefs jointly charing the Core Commanders’ conference for the first time in Pakistan Army’s history. Add to that the fact that General Kayani celebrated Eid Day with the jawans which was especially appreciated.

“Pakistan is our motherland. It is the bastion of Islam. We live and die for the glory of Islam and Pakistan. Our faith, resolve and pride in our religion and in our country is an asset, which is further reinforced after each terrorist incident,” he said while talking to the relatives of the victims of the Parade Lane mosque attack that targetted Army personnel and their families.

The recent shift in the balance of power in the region can also be attributed to Pakistan Army and General Kiynai’s tough stance concering the Indian threat and its role in Afghanistan.

Kayani crystallized Pakistan’s traditional stand on Afghanistan and warmth towards people of that country.

Speaking in the backdrop of his trip to Brussels where he put across Pakistan’s point of view on Afghan conflict, the COAS reflected sentiments of the nation by summarizing the country’s interest in the well-being of the people of Afghanistan by saying “We cannot wish for Afghanistan anything that we don’t wish for Pakistan”.

The historic remarks of the COAS once again re-affirmed Pakistan’s oft-repeated assertion that its objective was to have peaceful, stable and friendly Afghanistan. This is also a strong rejoinder to those who are engaged in malicious propaganda that Pakistan was part of the problem in Afghanistan. Ever since its inception, Pakistan has serious security problems emanating from across its eastern borders and it would least indulge in any activity that could destabilize its western borders as well.

In a recent presentation to Pakistani media, Gen Kayani also reiterated his widely reported comments on the Pakistan Army’s view of the situation in Afghanistan and the way forward there – and made it clear that his institution’s “frame of reference” for addressing the problems in that country included certain concerns that are India specific.

History, unresolved issues, India’s military capability and its ‘Cold Start’ doctrine meant that Pakistan could not afford to let its guard down.

“We plan on adversaries’ capabilities, not intentions”, General Kayani said.

Pakistan Army’s policy of differentiating between various Taliban factions and militant groups found no takers in Western capitals up until the recent past. Pakistan Army had been widely criticised for selectively targeting only those militant outfits which attacked Pakistan, namely the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and has always rejected US demands to act against Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-e-Islami and the Haqqani network – both of which the US alleges are based in Pakistan’s North Waziristan region and are actively fighting against the US & NATO troops in Afghanistan.

Not only have Gulbuddin and Haqqani’s men never acted against Pakistan, the Pakistan Army also regards them as future power brokers in the post-US Afghanistan.

Pakistan has legitimate interests to protect in the region beyond its borders, and is justified in pursuing those interests through means it deems necessary. The US and NATO will not stay in the region much longer – Pakistan has no other option than to support the Afghan Taliban in order to ensure that the Afghan soil is not used by its arch-rival India to destabilize Pakistan. The tough line taken by General Kayani in recent weeks seems to have shaken Washington and Delhi to the core.

General Kayani has also reportedly told US and NATO commanders in the recent meeting which came on the back of Pakistan rejecting US requests to start yet another operation on its soil, that Pakistan intends to take a hands on approach and play a central role in bringing stability to Afghanistan. He also demanded the US and its allies curb Indian influence in Afghanistan as the latter has been supporting terrorism in Pakistan from its many bases on Afghan soil.

The tough, matter-of-fact line on India was in stark contrast to that of the current ‘democratic’ rulers of Pakistan, who have bent over backwards in their attempts to appease both the Indians and the Americans.

If only our civilian leaders could behave with such honor, dignity and solidarity with this nation we would be able to solve all our problems efficiently. We need good leaders in our main institutions to lead the nation. We are very thankful to Allah that General Kayani is doing an excellent job as the leader of the Pakistan Army. Pakistan is the last fortress of Islam and we must ensure that Pakistan is strengthened from within and all external enemies of Pakistan must be destroyed. Pakistani national interest should be paramount to any other interests.

With reporting from Lt. Humayun Mushtaq and Nemrah Ahmed in Islamabad, Atif Qureshi in London, Talha Mujaddidi in Karachi, and Dan Qayyum in Dubai.

© 2010-2011 PKKH & BRIDGEHEAD INSTITUTE. Reproduction of the article is allowed only in its original form.



  1. pakistan is proud of his SON

    • Letter from Aafia Saddiqui – My Dead Nation

      My name is Dr. Afia educated from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (USA) with three children and aim of helping my nation with my high class education is very pleased from your help.

      I was kidnapped from my own country by my brothers and sold to America. I was brutally treated, raped, tortured, again and again given name prisoner 650. I prayed for my Muhammad Bin Qasim for every second of my years in prison in a Muslim country Afghanistan.

      I am sister of 1/5 world’s Muslim population . My nation is historically famous in defending and protecting their citizens right from the beginning. Hazrat Omar (RA) Said, if a dog dies near river Arafat, Omar will be responsible on day of judgment.

      At the moment I can’t walk on my own, one kidney is removed, bullet wound in my chest, denied any medical and legal aid and not sure whether I will be alive or not.

      I would like to revoke my status of sister. I am a proud Muslim, follower of Hazrat Muhammad SAW, daughter of Hazrat Abubakar, Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Usman and Hazrat Ali and Companions and their true followers. I don’t want to be your sister.

      They are my protectors and I will seek Allah’s help not yours.

      I don’t want to be Pakistani who has 600,000 troops and special force SSG but fail to protect me, they sworn to protect me but refused when I was looking at them for help.
      My so called Muslim Ummah having millions of soldiers, guns, tanks. Automatic weapons, fighter plans, submarines and yet they failed to save me.

      Don’t worry about day of judgment you won’t be answerable as you are not my brothers in Islam. You are Arabic, Persian, Palestinians, African, Malaysian, Indonesian, South Asian but not Muslims.

      I am sorry if hurts you but you can’t imagine how hurt I am.’


      • Mu-Salman Khan

        While I understand the Aafia issue, I cannot understand the intent of your post, a letter composed of thoughts of someone else other than Aafia Siddiqi and then ascribed to her? Posting it as a response to COAS topic.

        I cannot understand why we perceive General Kiyani as a man with solution to every problem. We do not understand the system of government and how the army functions in this kind of system.

        We tend to infer of conclusion from the system of khilafa and apply it to the modern secular non-Islamic system and the result is clear, CONFUSION.

        If we have a system of Khlafah in place in Pakistan when the Khaleefah is the one ordering for the armed expedition, yes, Muhammad Bin Qasim can be expected, but not in the current day system of government.

  2. Gen Kiyani is a man of few word but capable. In contrast to this his ex-chief (whom we dont name in case of our zubaan 40 din takk paleet nah ho jay) was of many words but almost ruined the nation with bad leadership. Just as we thought there were no more harm that man could possibly do to us in his end days: he invites all the traitors back to the country with the full knowledge of their crimes and gives us Zardari as a parting gift.

    Bozdill harami hummay TTP-US-Zardari kay darmiyaan phansa kay khod Europe bhaag gea. That man should be hanged for his share incompetance and cowardness!

    • ! you are party with the ones who have ruined this country to its deep roots…. you dont even know about your own existence .. .. filth of pakistan like you should be eliminated first… DONT YOU EVER ABUSE THE FORCES EVER…..

      • I was first about to let Shanto’s personak remarks go unanswered but again she do not know me or what our family has done for our country Pakistan.

        Shanto: you are blind and should get out of your 2×2 meter mental cube and see the world for what it is. I am of full right, and so are all Pakistanis, to question the fail policies if every rouler.

        Pluss I think people should read what I write for what is it and not jump to conclutions: no where did I abuse our armed forces. Pluss the man under question who ruined us is NOT the armed forces of the Islamic Republic but one man. One man who’s incompetence is mindblowing.

        Gen Kiyani on the other hand is really a fresh breath.

        In the end I am trying really hard not to use this forums for personal attacks.

    • well no doubt Musharraf fell way below expectations of many but rest assured if someone has some credit to earn he must get ! Foriegn investments , media and last 4 years without IMF and world bank might look little but extensive expansion of missile delivery systems , gwadar and most of all AQ Khan which goes to his discredit ..trust me he could havebeen 2nd Aimal kansi had it been some DEMOCRACY….. and if at all you like Kiyani you must know that bringing back benazir was his political compulsion (he openly on media used to say that he wuold never let them be back… ) but appointing a man like Gen Kiyani as DG ISI and then his successor was his choice….so you must abuse him for not being as graceful and brave as Zia but must weigh rationally….who is more disgraceful in actions not words…Musharraf appointing Kiyani or the Democratic stalwalts Like sharifs and others sitting with Zardari as PRESIDENT ISLAMIC REPUBLIC PAKISTAN . Cursed be supporters and participants of such democracy ! Respects and CAUTION i m not a MUSHSHARAF suuporter but i dont like the word democracy either ,specially the way it is here !

    • Just so you know, his ex-chief chose him for COAS slot…. I dont think he was that bad

      • Yes he was that bad! He fought only for his own rank and pisition from day one. He had no vision and definatly no leadership qualities required to run the Islamic Republic. In the end he proved to be corrupt too when he made illegal money (ref. Gen Hamid
        Gul). The blunders that man made were so gigantic in nature that they keep hurting us even after that coward mother ran away to Europe and left us in the middle of a nightmare with TTP terrorists running wild, India taking advantage in Afghanistan right under his nose, gave USA permission to bomb our
        country at will, ran the country lile a mafia organization by bringing in corrupt people to the cabinet, broke the constitution on several occations the first being when he illegally took power, handed over Pakistani national to the USA without a trial…my God, the list is never ending.

        Now that coward man is watching Pakistanis die on a TV set ftom his London appartment. I hope he dies a very painful death and get buried in the very soil where he chose to run.

        Pluss you make it almost sound like Gen Kiyani’s capabilities had nothing to do in the matter of his promotion

      • Thank God that respected gen musharraf chose gen k cuz he knew that which ever govt might come but its only COAS who is capable to handle this country so once again thanks to gen musharraf n cheerz to gen kiyani

      • @ Shah,

        I think u should cherish the democracy that u craved for in the time of Musharraf and voted a Robber to be your President. I think he represents you well. And yeah go ahead saying that you inherited the problems to cover up your failures. Bro Please take a stance. A valid one and not to be lost trying to be secular or democratic. Singly cursing one man doesnt mean, he’s to blame but there were politicians & the COAS as well who made it all happen securing other interests. Refrain from singly pointing fingers instead point out all the stake holders. I am sure you’ll understand y you were given the gift of democracy brokered by the foreign powers, the kind of support from the people to Musharraf didn’t leave him with much choice…

  3. He reminds us of our great muslim general like, Hazrat Khalid bin Walid, Sultan Salahuddin Ayubi, Sultan Muhammad Fateh, Sultan Noor-ud-din Zangi.

    May Allah give him the courage and stength to guide us through these hard times.

    • Some times I simply dont get my country men. KMR, you have clearly not read the history of the above historical figures and what they actually acomplished in their life time for their people and the Islamic Civilization.

  4. Kayani is impressive
    but is this blog creating ground for another coup?

    • hey Asghar i think you may well be right. but right now military intervention would be disastrous for Pakistan. i think Mr.K is really being v patient with this government, they havent done anything drastic drastic for the military to intervene. i tell you what i think, the quiet lion general is prowling and will eventually takeover (thats my gut feeling) but not in the very near future. it could be a while yet but the military WILL eventually come to the rescue. watch this space, lets both see what happens.

  5. i m great fan of this 100% pure pakistani son

  6. G.Kyani is my fav leader

  7. i love my pak army

  8. Very nice article. We definitely need leaders who have fear of Allah in their heart and are honest and loyal to the country. Kiyani has done an excellent job of pulling Army out of politics and is focusing on professionalism, and the results are evident. May Allah give us more such leaders, Inshallah.

    Pakistan Zindabad, Pindabad.

  9. I think Gen. Kayani has done wonders for Islam and Pakistan. Yes he might be our “Khalid bin Waleed” but looking back at Musharaf really disgust me. How he betrayed Islam for some Flats in UK and Johnny Walkers not realizing that he will also die one day. I really wish Gen. Kayani you are what we think you are. Remember if we put you in the same line as Khalid bin Waleed, who must realize that he was “Saifullah” (the sword of ALLAH). If you let us down like Musharaf you are going let Allah (SWT), Muhammad(PBUH)and Khalid bin Waleed down. We will not loose anything but just wait another day for the real (Saifullah) but then watch what Allah will do to you. This message for is for all the so called Leaders of Islam. We know Allah is punishing us today for not doing his job. Allah promised in Quran and said: If you don’t do the job I sent you here for I will replace you and bring corrupt leaders on you, and we are seeing all this today. “O Allah” forgive us and give us a chance to make things right,and choose the path you want us to be on. Ameen!

  10. Gen. Kyani is the leader, which make all the nation feel proud on PAK ARMY.

    Gen. Kyani, all PAK nation salute u for your great leadership.

    Thumb up for this article.

  11. Greatest Soldier of his Era.
    Sipa Salar of Islamic Army.

  12. no doubt kiyani is a great personality , has dignity , valour , courage and last but not the least honour . Although this was a great article no doubt , but i guess when i talk about me , talking great about someone without much proof to back doesnt quite ring the bells for me anymore, so plz i guess we would all love another article with more quotes, sources ,etc.

  13. Gen. Kayani is a man of few words and a plenty actions. We had previous COAS who was a great hero for many on this forum untill recently we had few of his achievements surfaced and everybody now know that he was the worst one who would sell daughters and mothers of this nation for dollars. Cheap.

    Gen. Kayani was the one who pushed NRO, of curse on Pervaz’s orders, on this nation and still control Zardari clan. Army has been twisting this Goverment’s arms when their own (Army) lifeline was threatened but found mute on public sufferings and issues.

    I think we need to wait and see what Kayani has been able to achieve, for Pakistan, as a Commander in chief of this country. I pray that all the praises my fellow Pakistanis have thrown on this forum turned out to be justified. Till then enjoy the drones, Hyper inflation, disapperances and many more to come under the capable leadership of PPP.

    Who would you vote in the mid-term election?

  14. abb tu tack over karna chaeye kyani sahab ko..i louve u pak army.

  15. General Kiani is the proudest son of nation. I have personally witnessed people praying for General Kiani to take over and throw out Zardari. We don’t need democracy, we don’t need America. China and Pakistan can alone handle Americans, Israelis and Indians(Specially).

    This time, General Kiani should seriously think about his nation’s wish because this brilliant nation don’t want leaders like Zardari.

  16. Kiyani has an excellent career, but one should not forget his role during suspension of CJ Iftikhar.

    he was also one of the Musharraf Commander who was present in meeting and forcing CJ to resign….But the CJ replied, ” let us face the Music”

    • hey atif.. sorry dost… either you have been misinformed or you dont know the truth. listen, Gen.Kayani was the ONLY person who did not file a reference against the CJ – its a fact – even during that crisis he was very quiet, didnt say much. in one apparent meeting between the CJ and Musharraf, he was present but refused to say anything – this is on the record. just remembwer this guyt, from what we have seen, is a model soldier who has had many opportunities to declare emergency/martial law but has resisted the temptation. he knows what damage a military takeover would do, the damage to Pakistan would be irreparable. he believes in calling the shots from behind the scenes and thats the best way to look after the interests of Pakistan. he is a far better soldier than Musharraf was and i’m very sure time will tell that this man will leave an impression on our country, this region and the world.. inshallah.. lets suppport him whole heartedly!


  17. Judging from the apparent, Kayani’s agenda/aim/motives are unclear. We have people one hand accusing the TTP of CIA Agents and on the other have our Army working with American trainers and Generals.

    He seems to be an alright guy, but Islamically, he is no where near what the Ummah requires (yet). If you look at all the great personalities of Islamic History, there aims, motives were clear, as well as their associations and agendas. I understand this Ummah is probably at its lowest point so to hope for that level of character might be too much, still I don’t understand why some brothers/sisters are praising him so much, though may Allah make our hope a reality.

    Also the one who fights for the sake of Allah (and thus dies shaheed) is the one who fights for la ilaha ilAllah as the hadith states, i.e to fight for an Islamic law in the Land. This – our Army is not doing, may Allah guide them, remove the hypocrites and kuffaar from their ranks and make them the beacon we desire.

  18. “Khamoshi k peechy Toofan hota hai” Gen.Kiyani is a silent person so be careful……

  19. May Allah protect him. He is always there in my prayers.

  20. lol. insaan ko bhagwan bana diya. in india, army officers are treated as equal humans. no more,

    • @ask jeeves
      Who made him God?? Stop making pathetic statements!
      He is a loyal Pakistani and so we respect him and ask God to bless him!

    • Ask Jevees: funny coming from a person jo khud bandaron our haathion ko pooja karta ho.

  21. http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1733748,00.html

    Good but shocked to find that Baithullah Meshud is listed more powerful than Kayani Saab.. Strange!!

  22. I love my arms force leader…..He is a gentalman….

  23. General Kiyani, a Silent Super power!!!
    Afwaj e Pakistan Zindabad
    Pakistan Payindabad!!!!

  24. Superb article! A Sipasaalar of a brave army like our Pak Army should be like General Ashfaq Pervaiz Kyani…..May All Mighty Allah bless him and protect him from our common enemies..Aameen!


    Bharat is fast becoming a hub of child labor/prostitution because of abject poverty and unemployment in the country (a reason itself stated by apex court of Bharat). Apart from that, Bharat is known to have most patients of HIV/AIDS.

  26. He is a Grade 22 officer and doing his job for which he got training, education and skill, dont make anyone larger than his profession. It shows your slave to the powerful mentality.

  27. Would somebody tell me how many grade 22 officers are there in Pakistan and what they are doing,

    At least this grade 22 officer has raised the morale,with so many enemies surrounding Pakistan, and also from within,which is surprising,to these anti state people.

    • I enjoy it when a dumb replies me with his/her equally pathetic dumbness. Did you actually read my post please read it three time after ablution you might understand what this means ‘which he got training, education and skill’. it is his job to protect us. its not chairman CBR’s job to go to border and command troops.

  28. we need him, Allah gifted us


    I simply exposed “between the lines”.And SULGA DIA.

  30. It will be totally wrong and mischivios to blame COAS of any complicity in CJ case.
    As chief of ISI,he must be having info of CIA involvement.Remember,daily CJ was taking suo-motto action,IS KO ULTA LATKA DOONGA,US KO ULTA LATKA DOONGA.This made governance difficult so much that the PM had to make a request.

    It is no more secret that Halbrook has admitted that he was in contact with Nawaz during the long march and that on the second occassion,Nawaz came out of his residence after a nod from US.

    There was a fit case against him,but for a wicked move by Aitezaz,who fought the case on a point of law.CJ still has to clear himself from the charges.

    US involvement is amply proved by the award he received in US,whereas US itself is one of the top
    listed country by Amnesty.
    Moreover,he has shut himself up on missing persons(as US is involved)
    and quitely transferred it to provincial CJs.No more suo-mottos,and as he has projectd himself as pro-Nawaz(which makes him disqualified)decides Nawaz cases in days whereas cases are pending for more than 35 years,specially Asghar Khan’s case on IJI.

  31. Europe’s Five “Undeclared Nuclear Weapons States”
    Are Turkey, Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands and Italy Nuclear Powers?

    by Michel Chossudovsky

    According to a recent report, former NATO Secretary-General George Robertson confirmed that Turkey possesses 40-90 “Made in America” nuclear weapons at the Incirlik military base.(en.trend.az/)

    Does this mean that Turkey is a nuclear power?

    “Far from making Europe safer, and far from producing a less nuclear dependent Europe, [the policy] may well end up bringing more nuclear weapons into the European continent, and frustrating some of the attempts that are being made to get multilateral nuclear disarmament,” (George Robertson, quoted in Global Security, February 10, 2010)

    “‘Is Italy capable of delivering a thermonuclear strike?…

    Could the Belgians and the Dutch drop hydrogen bombs on enemy targets?…

    Germany’s air force couldn’t possibly be training to deliver bombs 13 times more powerful than the one that destroyed Hiroshima, could it?…

    Nuclear bombs are stored on air-force bases in Italy, Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands — and planes from each of those countries are capable of delivering them.” (“What to Do About Europe’s Secret Nukes.” Time Magazine, December 2, 2009)

    The “Official” Nuclear Weapons States

    Five countries, the US, UK, France, China and Russia are considered to be “nuclear weapons states” (NWS), “an internationally recognized status conferred by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT)”. Three other “Non NPT countries” (i.e. non-signatory states of the NPT) include India, Pakistan and North Korea, have recognized possessing nuclear weapons.

    Israel: “Undeclared Nuclear State”

    Israel is identified as an “undeclared nuclear state”. It produces and deploys nuclear warheads directed against military and civilian sites in the Middle East including Tehran.


    There has been much hype, supported by scanty evidence, that Iran might at some future date become a nuclear weapons state. And, therefore, a pre-emptive defensive nuclear attack on Iran to annihilate its non-existent nuclear weapons program should be seriously contemplated “to make the World a safer place”. The mainstream media abounds with makeshift opinion on the Iran nuclear threat.

    But what about the five European “undeclared nuclear states” including Belgium, Germany, Turkey, the Netherlands and Italy.

    Belgium, Germany, The Netherlands, Italy and Turkey: “Undeclared Nuclear Weapons States”

    While Iran’s nuclear weapons capabilities are unconfirmed, the nuclear weapons capabilities of these five countries including delivery procedures are formally acknowledged.

    The US has supplied some 480 B61 thermonuclear bombs to five non-nuclear NATO countries including Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey. Casually disregarded by the Vienna based UN Nuclear Watch, the US has actively contributed to the proliferation of nuclear weapons in Western Europe.

    As part of this European stockpiling, Turkey, which is a partner of the US-led coalition against Iran along with Israel, possesses some 90 thermonuclear B61 bunker buster bombs at the Incirlik nuclear air base. (National Resources Defense Council, Nuclear Weapons in Europe , February 2005)

    By the recognised definition, these five countries are “undeclared nuclear weapons states”.

    The stockpiling and deployment of tactical B61 in these five “non-nuclear states” are intended for targets in the Middle East. Moreover, in accordance with “NATO strike plans”, these thermonuclear B61 bunker buster bombs (stockpiled by the “non-nuclear States”) could be launched “against targets in Russia or countries in the Middle East such as Syria and Iran” ( quoted in National Resources Defense Council, Nuclear Weapons in Europe , February 2005)

    Does this mean that Iran or Russia, which are potential targets of a nuclear attack originating from one or other of these five so-called non-nuclear states should contemplate defensive preemptive nuclear attacks against Germany, Italy Belgium, the Netherlands and Turkey? The answer is no, by any stretch of the imagination.

    While these “non-nuclear states” casually accuse Tehran of developing nuclear weapons, without documentary evidence, they themselves have capabilities of delivering nuclear warheads, which are targeted at Iran. To say that this is a clear case of “double standards” by the IAEA and the “international community” is a understatement.

    The stockpiled weapons are B61 thermonuclear bombs. All the weapons are gravity bombs of the B61-3, -4, and -10 types.2 .

    Those estimates were based on private and public statements by a number of government sources and assumptions about the weapon storage capacity at each base

    .(National Resources Defense Council, Nuclear Weapons in Europe , February 2005)

    Germany: Nuclear Weapons Producer

    Among the five “non-nuclear states”, “Germany remains the most heavily nuclearized country with three nuclear bases (two of which are fully operational) and may store as many as 150 [B61 bunker buster ] bombs” (Ibid). In accordance with “NATO strike plans” (mentioned above) these tactical nuclear weapons are also targeted at the Middle East.

    While Germany is not categorized officially as a nuclear power, it produces nuclear warheads for the French Navy. It stockpiles nuclear warheads (made in America) and it has the capabilities of delivering nuclear weapons. Moreover, The European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company – EADS , a Franco-German-Spanish joint venture, controlled by Deutsche Aerospace and the powerful Daimler Group is Europe’s second largest military producer, supplying .France’s M51 nuclear missile.

  32. USA is the proliferator here.

    “The US has supplied some 480 B61 thermonuclear bombs to five non-nuclear NATO countries including Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey. Casually disregarded by the Vienna based UN Nuclear Watch, the US has actively contributed to the proliferation of nuclear weapons in Western Europe.”

  33. The so-called Biderberg Group wants the world population to be reduced to slightly more than two billion from around 6.5 B.

    It seems all preparations have been made for that.

    VisitDaniel Estulin and Chemtrails for details.

  34. Kiyani is useless , can’t even stop the drone attacks on Pakistan. It’s really hard to comprehend that despite having 600,000 strong army under his command he can’t even order to shoot down the drones. He is a US directed person, only act as per the instructions. What a shameless person he is !!!

    Pakistan need a person like Ayatullah Khomeni and not people like Kiyani. Pakistan is a slave of America.

    • Syed bhai, while I agree we need a political revolution in our country I question your visdom of on the drone attacks. PAF has the capabilities to stop all drones attacks over night but right now our armed forces are in hand with the Americans and provides them intel from times to times.

      The whole drone drama is a pilitical question and it is the government of Pakistan who has given CIA the green light to use Pakistani and Afganistani soil for this.

      What to change the drone policy? Then vote for parties who arr againdt it and not for parties who will sell out their mothers for dollars and power.

      • Bro Shah,

        you probably got no feeling for those living out these attacks daily. All you’re saying to vote for a party who is against the drone attacks keeping in mind the next elections would be in three years time till then God Bless the poor people of FATA.

        I’m also aware that PAF is capable shooting down these drones but what’s holding them up??? Obviously one thing and thats $$$$

        Sorry to say but Pak is a sold out nation.

  35. Lunky nations got the Sons like Him and Alhemdullillah Pakistan got many more like him.

    Pak Fog Zindabaad
    Pakistan Painda baad InshAllah. Amin

  36. There is no doubt that Gen Kayani has proved himself a very professional man. He has taken the TTP US & RAW backed groups professionally. Now it is time to isolate the TTP from our brave tribal people who liberated half of the kashmir when we did not have any army and any proper army chief. These brave tribes drove the hindu banya army out of half of the kashmir and would have rid off the hindus from there forever if pak leadership would not give into the UNO. Anyway now we have strong army with very professional cheif and we should be paying more attention to our eastern borders where india is stopping our water and chuddamburram has once again declared that kashmir is their atoot ung and the only talk on kashmir would be to take the pakistani side of kashmir back. When the hindu thugs have that sort of mentality it does not seem that something good will come out of the dialogue pakistan is going to have with hindus. It is better to dismantle indian dams from kashmir and our brave army and chief should clear the kashmir from these hindu thugs. The water problem is mother of all problem for pakistan and our army should be planning to drive the hindus out of kashmir rather than fighting the american war which they have brought into pakistan with the help of blackwater and other criminal organisation of US who are committing attrocities to our citizens under the veil of TTP. Surely TTP is also American backed terrorists then why we are fighting the american war rather than our own for our water. We have the RAW agents like ALTAF and CIA/MI backed REHMAN MALIK in pakistan who are working against our nations interest. Our brave army should look into these matters and clean the mess which their previous chief Mush has left for pakistan with his stupid idiotic ideas about kashmir. This is more serious and immediate issue that chief Kayani has to address.

  37. JOE BIDEN THE JEW issued a statement again worried about pakistan nukes falling into the hands of his projected mafia TTP which is absurd and he said he was not concerned about IRAQ which was invaded by this thug’s predecessor with same sort of accusations what now he is saying about pakistan. He should be more concerned about his own nuclear program because his country is the agressor everywhere in the past in Japan where they really used the nuclears and agressors in Vietnam and recently in IRAQ AND NOW Afghanistan and pakistan is terrorised by these terrorists. They should get the hell out of these places to make the world peaceful and safe.

    • Sir ji, JB is not jewish but he is a self proclaimed zionist and a strong Israel supporter much like rest of the democrats in US politics.


    The “fetish” for death has not only plagued the Bharti masses but the Bharti armed forces also. Paid with the incentives of extreme mental stress, soldiers find it difficult to wait for wars. According to reports, more bharti soldiers are dying by taking their own lives than dying in battles. Reasons include lack of motivation, morale insecurity, preference to upper castes, low pays, lack of attention, denial in leaves, unbearable stress, lack of cohesion and inadequate supplies.

  39. For me he wouldnt be a great guy unless or untill he does something for Pakistan.That is kick out the current corrupt politicians forever …i dont need to take the names ….

  40. Only Allah knows,what are your intentions in de-faming Kayani.It is not definitely your love for Pakistan or Islam.

    If not,then keep your comments to yourself.

  41. General Kiyani is handling the regional situation in the best way possible. Good man he is. I support him.

    • @imran Chaudhry
      Yes we are seeing the handling of things by General Kiyani and it’s the same old alliance with kaafir americans.

      the latest came today when ISPR confirmed the arrest of Afghan taliban leader in a joint US-Pak operation (old habbits don’t go away easily).

      What went wrong with Zaid Hamid’s good taliban/bad taliban theory. As the events are unfolding it’s becoming clear that there’s no such difference and this was just spread around to deceive the people.

      Lets see if Mr.Zaid Hamid has the courage to criticise Pak army for allying with kaafirs and arresting a god taliban.

      • @ Imran

        My comment is not any one particular incident specific, as you have tried to tag it with something different. I have used the word “regional” in my post.

      • what the hell is so difficult in telling the americans to STOP THE DRONE ATTACKS on pakistani territory eh

      • @ Nujat,

        Your drone rhetoric is now acquiring a “diseased” status.

      • @imran Chaudhry

        When a nation goes dead, than definitely, the legitimate concerns like the mass killing of Muslims in Kaafir’s drone attacks supported by PA acquires a diseased status.

  42. @Imran,

    Personally,I think,it is all a setup.Consider this:

    a)Who says he is the real guy,
    b)who says this guy was #2,
    c)Real Taliban are in hiding,why he came to a city to be located,
    d)If,at all,he is the real person,then it may be on purpose for any future reconciliations.

    Mujahids work under strict secrecy.Remember Hakimullah Mehsud was buried in Multan.Did anybody know?

    While I am writing this,Taliban claim that Brather is still with his people and fighting.

    So,please don’t make haste in making conclusions.

    • it’s all if’s and but’s, lets go by the reality confirmed by ISPR that in joint Pak-US operation they arrested Good Taliban leader.

      So my question to Zaid Hamid & PKKH team, where’s the theory of Good Taliban or was it deliberately planted to deceive the people.

      Lets see what new story PKKH & Zaid Hamid comes with wrt the arrest of good taliban leader.

      • do you think zaid hamid has been telling you stories about islamic history, pakistan, quaid e azam, allama iqbal, umar ibne khatab, muhammad saw, and everything else?

        impatience and ignorance will lead you to suicide. take it easy. you are a victim of media warfare and you don’t know what really happened or is happening. what youre deducing your results from is partial information. theres a lot of things you don’t know. don’t just give start throwing yourself just because you read something somewhere. im sure youre wirth more than that.


    According to WHO data, Bharat is amongst the countries with highest suicide rates in the world. Research reports paint a wretched picture of a betrayed humanity, caught in the trap of life; desperate to snatch away death because of severe poverty, hunger, social inequality and lack of attention by the government. South Bharat, in this regard, has earned its fame as ‘World’s Suicide Capital’ with youth topping the suicide charts.

  44. All Pakistani dictators have turned out good for India. Musharaff was blessing in disguise. Good luck to kiyani

  45. @Indian

    You say this because you do not know.Musharraf was more dangerous.Once he had said:

    “I was four years old when my parents migrated to Pakistan.I still remember thousands of dead bodies of women and chldren alongside the railway track from Delhi to Lahore.I will never foret that.”

    We should wake up.

    • stfu, wat Mush said was for the domestic audience, he was the one who back tracked on long held pakistani position on Kashmir.

  46. keyani is an imposter only good for making grand speeches of no use what so ever in this present climate what we need is action not rhetoric pakistan is in a turmoil situation right under his nose forget about leaving your post in november GO KNOW you useless excuse for a human being

  47. @Nujat,

    There is a news circulating that you will be the next COAS.I fully support you.

    At least you will stop these drones.

    • why not make me the next coas leader i will fear no one when i have the seventh largest army in the world at my disposal plus nearly two hundred neuclear war heads obove all allah on our side i will tell the americans in a language they will understand ONE MORE DRONE ATTACK ON PAKISTANI SOIL THEN ITS WAR no more nicely nicely talk i will bring back pakistans pride back to the people dont you agree ultra nationalist
      nujat patriotic pakhtoon pakistani

    • Nujat,

      Do you think stopping drone attacks will solve all problems and all threats to Pakistan?

      Sorry to say, you just think and write with a Pakhtoon mind.

      What about the other damn issues facing Pakistan today? Idiot…

      • it will surely save a lot of lives and be a deterrent to others not to violate pakistani
        soverenty idiot


    You’ve heard of child labor in India, have you seen it? Here: rupeenews.com/2010/02/10/indian-miracle- display-for-commonwealth-games /

  49. First Squadron of JF-17 Thunder inducted in PAF

    ISLAMABAD: Another major milestone was achieved when the first Squadron of JF-17 Thunder formally joined fighter aircraft fleet of Pakistan Air Force on Thursday.A ceremony for the formal induction of JF-17 Thunder aircraft was held at one of the PAF’s operational bases. Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force was chief guest on the occasion.

    The Chief of the Air Staff addressing the Airmen congratulated the nation and the PAF personnel on the momentous occasion.

    “The formal induction of JF-17 aircraft in the PAF is in line with our resolve to face all challenges with poise and self-confidence. The PAF has invested in the force multipliers like the Air-to-Air refuellers, UAVs and AEW&C aircraft to enhance our capacity and capability to undertake complex operations,” he said.

    “ These new state-of-the-art inductions make it imperative that we train hard and prepare well to induct and integrate the new systems professionally and safely. The achievements of PAF leave no doubt in my mind that we are immensely capable and, as a team, can set and achieve still higher standards”.

    “We are a peaceful nation with no aggressive designs and want to maintain peace with honour in our region. We are inducting new systems to keep pace with technology and maintain credible conventional balance of force, without which peace cannot be ensured in South Asia,” he said.

    He said that the JF-17 would be put through its paces in the forthcoming Exercise Hi-Mark 2010.

    The ‘JF-17 Thunder’ has the capability to undertake entire spectrum of offensive as well as defensive missions. By joining the elite ranks of PAF, the JF-17 would not only enhance the combat readiness of PAF but also form its back-bone in future.

    The ceremony culminated when an A-5-III fighter led three JF-17 Thunder aircraft in a flypast following which a single JF-17 performed aerobatics over the venue.

    • Congratulations to PAF and i pray to Allah swt’ that PAF use this capability to protect the honour and dignity of Muslims which unfortunately is not happening at the moment.

  50. @lionel
    Alhamdulillah, my faith is strong enough to keep myself away from haram things like suicide.

    It’s the pakistani armed forces which have taken the path of suicide. When u go against the commands of Allah swt’ and ally with kaafirs, just wait for Allah’s wrath.

    All these fancy things like lots of thinsg are happening which u don’t know etc., are just a tool to deceive ppl. I will go by the words of Pak army and not funny stories from Zaid Hamid. and the words of PA is that they will go after Mujahideens when it will suit them as they are not in a positon right now to open another fronts.

    This has started by the arrest of Taliban leaders. I eagerly wait what justification Zaid Hamid group brings this time.

  51. NAB detects corruption of at least Rs2 trillion:DAWN


  52. Basically,whole nation is corrupt.If I do not give bribe to get my work done,then I should not blame.It is about 500B,in CBR alone.

    Only with fear of Allah ,it can be reduced if not eliminated.

    I wanted to buy a US based software,the guy offered me on my face.I was stunned but he said it is the company’s official policy.

    That is what happens on defence deals.

    • I understand your point but what you’re referring to is more likely to be called bribes and kickbacks at general and public level. By corruption, NAB refers to political corruption at state level, mischiefed by our politicians and rulers. When you have honest rulers, bribes and kickbacks automatically get controlled. All you need is revival of Islamic law, which we already have but is not practiced. The effect of regulating things from state level is fast, furious and fool proof. trying to manipulate people at public level is not really the plausible way, it has more to do with individual honesty but cannot create a justified and presentable system.

  53. In two days, two IAF jets (Mig21 and Mig27) crash.

    NEW DELHI: In yet another crash in IAF, a MiG-27 fighter went down near Siliguri in West Bengal on Tuesday afternoon, killing the pilot, a squadron leader.

    The MiG-27 is a `swing wing’ aircraft and the over 100 of them in IAF combat fleet were hardly flown in 2005-2006 after it was found that their R-29 engines were causing a large number of accidents.

    With the MiG-27 fleet undergoing an upgrade since then, IAF actually plans to operate these fighters well into the next decade, even though they are ageing, because they constitute an important element of its strike fleet.

    The number of IAF fighter squadrons, of course, is itself down to just 32-33 from even the `authorised strength’ of 39.5 squadrons. IAF will achieve its desired squadron strength of 42 only after 2020.

    From 1971-72 to 2003-04, IAF’s consolidated average rate stood at 1.09 accidents per 10,000 hours of flying, roughly translating into the loss of 23 aircraft and the death of 10-14 pilots every year.

    The crash rate did come down dramatically to around 0.27 accidents per 10,000 hours of flying, with an over 50% reduction in crashes after 2003-04. But the number of crashes seem to be going up once again now.

    The aging MiG variants, which constitute the bulk of India’s combat fleet, have, of course, been the main culprits. The `highly-demanding’ MiG-21s, in particular, have a horrifying track-record.

    Of the 793 single-engined MiG-21s inducted into IAF since 1963, well over 330 have been lost in accidents. The problem has been compounded by shoddy maintenance, poor quality control of spares and inadequate training to rookie pilots.

    Is our Air Force in any competitive state to challenges the likes of China?

  54. I came across a really true yet funny article on Indian Express. thought i’d share. guess there are few people in bharat who really know where they stand in their incapability.

    Sky’s the limit (for Bharti Bragging)

    Beijing’s dismissal of the DRDO’s claims that its missile technology is superior to that of China might provoke knee-jerk patriotism in Delhi. But no one in the world disputes that China is way ahead of India in missilery and military uses of space. By transferring missiles and their production technology, China has also put Pakistan ahead of India. Instead of acknowledging the reality and redoubling the effort to catch up, the DRDO is making extravagant claims. Take, for example, its head V.K. Saraswat’s claim that the

    Agni-III, with its 3000 km range, is ready for “induction” by the services. A weapons system inducted after just four tests including one failure? This is the kind of sanctimonious self-congratulation that the DRDO has doled out for decades. Because they wrap themselves in the flag, we are not supposed to ask questions, only clap. Saraswat has claimed that “there is no need to produce and store missiles in today’s world”. Really? China has more than 1000 missiles pointed at Taiwan; and is producing and deploying missiles in scores every year.

    This could be ignored but for the fact that it has begun to create diplomatic problems for India. Take the claim that India is developing anti-satellite weapons. Here he is talking about a weapon system that does not exist; and the Chinese have conducted ASAT weapon tests in 2007 and 2010 without making any claims in advance. Did he have the political clearance to say this? Did he consult the foreign office which is campaigning in Geneva against an “arms race” in outer space? Even bolder is talk of targets for Agni-III in China and Pakistan. Since when has it become the DRDO’s responsibility to decide on nuclear targeting? One had assumed that was the job of the nuclear command authority under the prime minister.

    Meanwhile, the ministry of defence appears to have no oversight of the DRDO and the minister, A.K. Antony, seems out of the loop. Speaking at a conference in Delhi last week, Antony thundered against the “militarisation of space”. Has anyone informed the poor minister that space has been “militarised” for decades? The international debate today is about deploying weapons in space. While the minister of defence makes banal statements, his scientific adviser is boasting about space weapons. Why Delhi, which claims to be a responsible nuclear power, allows this dangerous drift at the MOD and DRDO is one of those known unknowns in Delhi.


    Earlier, I posted a fact on incapability of Bharat’s defence industry (owing which Bharat is actively wooing and begging for weapons from all over the world) on another thread. It was natural to see Bhartis grumbling, whining, babbling and bragging. Like i said, there is no answer to incapability, here’s something:


    Indian Army wants to dump the indigenous INSAS rifle

    Yet another move by the Indian Army to dump indigenous equipment has come under sharp focus within the services and outside. The decision to look for a foreign replacement for the Indian small arms system (Insas) assault rifle — the standard rifle of an Indian soldier — came as the army is under attack from various quarters for its resistance to the Arjun tank.

    The Insas and Arjun are indigenously made, and are among rare successes for India, which is heavily dependent on foreign firms for defence equipment.

    The army wants to dump the Insas as it allegedly doesn’t measure up to its requirements. One of the arguments is that it does not instantly kill the enemy. But its defenders pointed out that it was not supposed to kill the enemy, but injure him so that in a battlefield more of his fellow soldiers are busy evacuating the injured.

    A serving senior officer from the infantry said it was baffling that the infantry directorate has issued a global tender for replacing the Insas. “It has been designed precisely according to our quality requirements. If we have new requirements, we should ask the ordnance factory board to rework it, and not scrap the project,” the officer, who was involved in the induction of Insas, told DNA. He pointed out that the rifle had undergone several refinements, so it is now a “good weapon”.

    Insas is a 5.56mm rifle, and performs as well as any in its class, argued its supporters. “It may not be as finished as others, but then you get an Insas for only Rs24,000. Its comparative guns are in the range of Rs1.25 lakh,” an official pointed out.

    The global RFP (request for proposal) issued for a new assault rifle for the army stipulated that it had to be lighter than 3.5kg, making impossible for the Insas to even compete in the tender; an Insas weighs 4.1kg.


    ***The world is stunned and sad at Bharat’s incapability and desire for spending billions (200 b$) in arms in coming few years, so much so that they started seeking justification for such insane spending.***

    *** Bharat gets trumped by some real questioning by defense companies on Defexpo 2010, asking for its moral standing on seeking weapons ***

    *** I request this should be posted on PKKH as a separate thread ***


    For the Arms Industry, India Is a Hot Market

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1966605,00.html?xid=rss-world#ixzz0g0HQqTDP

    The Indian Defense Minister, A.K. Antony, called this week’s massive defense industry trade show, Defexpo 2010, “an endeavor to showcase India’s capabilities in land and naval systems, as well as its emergence as an attractive destination for investment in the defense sector.” His junior minister, M.M. Pallam Raju, was a little more blunt. He called the event, which attracted more than 600 companies from 35 countries, “a one-stop shop.” India is emerging as one of the most important defense markets in the world, with billions to spend, and the global defense industry is only too happy to help it do so.

    The country’s marquee bid is an order for 126 fighter planes, worth $10 billion — the single biggest tender in the world in the last 15 years. Six companies’ jets are in the running: Boeing’s F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Aviation’s Rafale, Lockheed Martin’s F-16, Russia’s MiG-35 Saab’s JAS 39 Gripen, and the Eurofighter Typhoon from EADS, a six-nation European consortium. All of them sent teams of delegates to Defexpo. They hovered around their booths, giving impromptu presentations over free capuccino to bureaucrats, Army officers and local journalists. The bid is already in its final stages, as Indian Air Force pilots test the planes in the field, so it is unlikely that PowerPoint slides at Defexpo will sway the decision. Still, says Marco Bonelli, spokesman for the Eurofighter Typhoon, “You have to be here.”

    So it was with no small pride that Eurofighter representatives pointed out that the Defense Minister himself had come to their booth this week and tried out the Typhoon flight simulator. He sat in a replica of the cockpit, watching a head-up display projected onto a screen in front of him as a simulated landscape — in this case, the west of England, near Manchester — passed underneath. Wing Commander Anthony “Foxy” Gregory of the Royal Air Force was there to answer technical questions, and will head next to Bangalore to work with Indian test pilots. “We see the Indian Air Force becoming a strategic partner in the region,” Gregory says.

    What has really drawn defense companies to India, however, is the smaller-ticket market for internal security, especially after the Nov. 26, 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai. “We had to rethink our strategy after 26/11,” says Woolf Gross, corporate director of international programs for Northrop Grumman. “After our review we decided to cater to India’s homeland security.” The company adapted one of its surveillance systems, for example, to identify suspicious vehicles at sea, the route that the Mumbai attackers are believed to have used. For the first time since the inaugural Defexpo in Delhi in 1999, Northrop Grumman has flown in representatives from all its five units. “We are hoping for that one big sale in India,” he says.

    The Indian government, too, has signaled the new importance of what it calls “low-intensity conflict,” like the multi-agency security offensive aimed at defeating India’s armed Maoist insurgency, a movement that controls a wide stretch of territory in central India. The Defense Ministry’s research and development arm, which traditionally caters to the needs of the armed forces, this year for the first time displayed unmanned aerial vehicles and other weapons developed for counter-insurgency. “Technology is being dovetailed to suit low-intensity conflicts,” a top defense research official told TIME.

    U.S. companies are following their lead. Taser, for example, is selling its controversial stun-guns, used by law-enforcement authorities to subdue people, to Indian state police forces as well as central security forces, which are conducting joint anti-Maoist operations. It has already signed contracts for Taser weapons with the police forces of two states — Punjab and Jammu & Kashmir — and expects India to become one of its “top 10, if not top 5,” export markets, says spokesman Yogesh Saini. “They’re not allowed for private security guards [in India], but we have had people asking about it.”


    One question left unanswered at Defexpo 2010 was whether a country in which one-third of the adults are illiterate and 43% of children are malnourished should spend so much on weapons. India’s central government spent $4.5 billion on education in 2008 — about the same amount that it plans to spend on 197 new helicopters. A handful of protesters picketed outside the gates of the exhibition hall on opening day, but they drew little notice. India’s attention is firmly focused on what one defense company representative called the “quality gap” between its weapons and those of its neighbors, Pakistan and China. The gaps at home will have to wait.


  57. Pak has suffered 35 billion dollars in war on terror

    Islamabad, Feb. 20 (ANI): Pakistan’s Minister of State for Economic Affairs, Hina Rabbani Khar, has claimed that the war on terror has cost the country almost 35 billion dollars over the last three years.

    The Daily Times quoted Khar, as saying that Pakistan had incurred more losses in the war on terror, as Pakistani casualties were more than the total number of casualties of all the NATO forces combined.

    • heheheh … 35 billion where did pakistan even get that amount to begin with, it lives of 1.5 billion aid packages. Simple drama to loot the american, what a SHame!!!

      • To me,you seem to have been trained by America and sent to Pakistan to refute a claim of $ 35B,instead of Kayani.



    Bharat on verge of collapse and civil war. People are crying for jobs and food, yet the brahmin raj chooses to buy 200 billions dollars of weaponry, ignoring a betrayed humanity.


    Pro-Telangana protests intensify, Hyderabad under seize

    Pro-Telangana students have started protest rallies outside the Osmania University campus on Saturday, even as heavy security measures have been imposed across Andhra Pradesh to prevent any disruption. Road and rail traffic has been badly affected.

    Hyderabad Police Commissioner A K Khan has apologized to people for the security restrictions.

    Following a bomb scare, at least nine trains were stopped near Vikrabad and Warangal, and the railway protection force is checking the tracks.

    According to reports, pro-Telangana activists broke barricades outside the state Assembly and tried to enter the House and disrupt the ongoing budget session.

    The students are demanding resignation of MLAs from Telangana region, and they hope the resignations will pressure the Central government into initiating process for formation of a separate state.

    “Please try to understand why we are participating in such a struggle. We have no jobs. Our parents are in debt. There is no money at home. It is a matter of life and death for us,” says Satish, one of the students.

    Over 15000 policemen and paramilitary personnel are on duty in Hyderabad alone as in a pre-cautionary measure to hold up protests.

    Commissioner A K Khan said: “It is a surcharged atmosphere and if they do anything illegal, we will have to take action and book cases. That could spoil their future as well.”

    Ten TRS MLAs have resigned, the Congress MLAs have been reined in and the TDP is sitting on the fence. (ANI)


    Bharat continues to be largely plagued with forced child marriages (mostly for dowry) and labor (for cheap money), bringing the social system to an abrupt standstill and potential collapse. According to reports, nearly 50% of bharti women are forced into child marriages with their parents not even seeking their consent. Reports further state zero or minimum health care facilities for pregnant women, causing deaths and other complexities.

    • @ Shah & Rufi

      It is quite clear that you have a deepseated antiMusharraf bias . However,
      it should not influence your comments in such forums.

      Absolutely obectively, you must compare all the qualitative and quantative
      macro and micro indicators for the infrastructure development, overall
      progress, economic growth, political stability, foreign policy and
      Pakistan’s international perception, initiatives in Higher education
      programmes, women emancipation and empowerment,taking on the fringe
      extremist elements with courage and determination, inter alia
      with the dismal performance of the dyslexic feudal/dynastic ‘democracy’ that
      misguided people always bay for.

      History is an impartial judge and the legacy of each leader should be the
      only basis of comparision , not personal agendas and preconceived mindsets.

      Army Chiefs are professional soldiers and are appointed to do a job and get
      paid for it. It is the legacy they leave at the end of their stint of duty
      that would decide their place in our national history and much credit goes
      to the person who selected the Army Chief in the first place. It would do
      well to remember that Kayani was handpicked on merit alone by none other
      than Musharraf himself.

      While Musharraf got into the COAS ‘position more by default as he was the
      ONLY General whose candidature was free of personal canvassing by any
      vested interests either directly or indirectly. He had the courage to
      target India’s jugular in Kargill to free Kashmir but Sharif let down
      Pakistan and backed down in front of the Americans and tried to backstab
      Musharraf, having no corurage to look him in the eye on the ground but to
      order his ouster in mid air thorugh the plane hijacking .Musharraf , as
      President ,put Pakistan back on the rise and unprecedented ascent in all
      spheres of national interests.
      The only man in uniform who did not clamp down a Martial Law and the only
      man in uniform who handed over power without invoking 58 2B , in the best
      interests of Pakistan as a patriot . What continues to happen after his
      dignified departure, is even for the blind to see.
      Pakistan Zindabad.

      • Moreover,one must keep in mind how Mush became COAS.It was no other than the current leader of opposition of PML(N) (whose brother was retired Lt.Gen,and defence secy at that time).Although the next in line was Ali Quli Khan,a Pashtun,whom Nawaz feared (he had the bitter experience with Gen.Kakar).So much for the post of COAS.

        He started fearing of Mush and sent him to Colombo for a conference.Mush said to Nawaz,the other countries are sending two and three star generals.Why you want me to go(Mush was a four star).But Nawaz had some sinister design(put a Butt in his place),insisted on Mush to go.And in his absence fired him.

        It is just to put things in right perspective…

  60. He is an American stooge, studied in America and send to control and support Zardari. Stop glorifying the army, this just getting to much of a cliche’ now.

  61. i’m trying to understand why PKKH deleted my two posts. Have they decided not to tolerate a different viewpoint. What harm did i do by giving a refernce of the Ayat of Quran?

    • @imran saeed,

      It is a case of a slogan,found on the back of a car, “Do not disturb,fast asleep”
      I have been able to work out this problem as follows.

      Firstly,it seems,the moderator goes to sleep at about 1900 GMT.Wake up at about 0300 GMT.During this period,all messages are held up subject to moderation(though blasphemous posts somehow get in from Hindus).On Thursdays and Fridays enjoy weekends.

      One such blasphemous comment appeared at 2.00 pm on one thursday,remained upto Friday afternoon(that too because I(may be someone else also) pointed to someone very important).And the moderator appears on Monday(how fast) telling the sender”I have removed your comment”

      When they get up in morning,finding so many comments,having no time to go through them,dump them.

      But one should not doubt their sincerity.It was all my conjecture.Themoderator should come and clarify.

  62. they copy americans who possess little knowledge

  63. A message for army chief…
    If you need me let me know… I will always be here for our country….

  64. Kiani is US trained and was chosen by Gen. Musharraf with the US backing to keep the civilians in line. With his masters bidding, he will takeover if it is required. You see the problem with the civilians is that they may be idiots but they cannot be total “ghaddars” because their constituency is ultimately the people as compared to Generals who can become total “ghaddars” and retire in the west after plundering the country.

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