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$500m for ‘Safe Exit’ from Afghanistan’s Unforgiving History

January 30, 2010


“Those who do not learn from history, are condemned to repeat it” -George Santana

Dan Qayyum | Editor, PKKH

After 9 years of maintaining an expensive presence on Afghan soil, thousands of lives and billions wasted in aid and reconstruction efforts, not to forget bribes to warlords and drug barons, the US and its allies have come up with a real gem of an idea – trying to buy themselves a safe exit from the Afghan mess for a cool $500m.

The world leaders gathered at the Afghanistan Conference in London seem to have realised the only hope left is to save face and exit Afghanistan with some dignity intact. Their offer of cash to the Taliban, laughable as it is, is a last ditch effort to save Hamid Karzai’s government by attempting to buy out his only real opposition in Afghanistan.

Taliban today control 33 out of 34 provinces of Afghanistan and are under no pressure to negotiate with the ‘Governor of Kabul’ – as he’s mockingly called in Afghanistan due to his rule being limited to parts of the Afghan capital. The momentum is with the Taliban and they are in a position to dictate terms. Therefore the plan to rope in ‘moderate’ elements of the Taliban by promises of cash and power is a non-starter.

The decision reached at the conference to invite Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to mediate with the Taliban and Kabul’s Government seems to have little point, even though it confirms what Pakistan has been saying for years – that there will not be a solution to the Afghan problem until the Taliban – who represent Afghanistan’s Pashtun majority – are ignored.

Good Taliban / Bad Taliban

Pakistan Army’s policy of differentiating between various Taliban factions and militant groups found no takers in Western capitals up until the recent past. Pakistan Army had been widely criticised for selectively targeting only those militant outfits which attacked Pakistan, namely the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and has always rejected US demands to act against Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-e-Islami and the Haqqani network – both of which the US alleges are based in Pakistan’s North Waziristan region and are actively fighting against the US & NATO troops in Afghanistan.

Not only have Gulbuddin and Haqqani’s men never acted against Pakistan, the Pakistan Army also regards them as future power brokers in the post-US Afghanistan.

The Taliban leader in Afghanistan, Mullah Muhammad Omar, is also ready to break with his al-Qaida allies in order to make peace in the country, according to the former Pakistani intelligence officer who trained him.

Brigadier Sultan Amir Tarar (known as Colonel Imam), a retired officer with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, said: “The moment he gets control, the first target will be the al-Qaida people. He wants peace in the country, he doesn’t want adventure. He has had enough of that.”

Pakistan has legitimate interests to protect in the region beyond its borders, and is justified in pursuing those interests through means it deems necessary. The US and NATO will not stay in the region much longer – Pakistan has no other option than to support the Afghan Taliban in order to ensure that the Afghan soil is not used by its arch-rival India to destabilize Pakistan.

As Ahmed Quraishi notes:

In 2001, Pakistan gave the ultimate strategic sacrifice by ditching a friendly government in Afghanistan and help American occupy that country. We let the Americans install a government of their choice in Kabul and saw them push the terrorists inside Pakistan instead of finishing them off on the Afghan soil. We suffered billions of dollars in undocumented losses, way beyond the pittance in American aid. And what did we get? Insurgencies, terrorism and economic collapse. On top of it, India has blocked Pakistan’s water, effectively declaring a water war. This same hostile India is firmly establishing its presence near our borders in Afghanistan. And then the Americans have the audacity to come and berate us for having a soft corner for freedom fighters in Kashmir and Afghanistan. Even if we don’t want to do it, what choice do we have? If we sympathize with the Afghan Taliban or with Kashmiri groups that antagonize India, there is a legitimate reason for it. Pakistan can’t be expected to drop its legitimate interests just because US or India wants so.

Washington’s permission to India to set up a military and intelligence presence in Afghanistan along Pakistan’s borders is widely seen as the latest US back-stabbing after Pakistan’s u-turn on its own Taliban policy. Western analysts and senior government officials have confirmed India’s involvement in terrorism in Pakistan’s Balochistan province, as well as channeling funds and arms to Pakistani terrorist outfits including the TTP through corrupt Afghan warlords. A destabilized Pakistan helps India’s case against Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, which it demands be neutralized in face of what it calls a ‘serious Taliban takeover threat’.

In reality however, the TTP are being wiped out at the hands of Pakistan’s armed forces with even the US and NATO stunned at the efficiency and success of the army operations against TTP militants in Swat and South Waziristan.

For the first time in 8 years, Pakistan now has the upper hand and has started to dictate terms to the US, starting last week with the rejection of US request to extend the operation to North Waziristan. Anticipating an imminent turnaround in Pakistan’s Afghan policy and fearing the US supply lines into Afghanistan may come under pressure, the US has immediately sought to pacify the Pakistan Armed Forces with promises to deliver 12 ‘unarmed’ shadow drones – which was rejected as Pakistan already has superior UAVs.

This turnaround by the Pakistan Army couldn’t have come at a worse time for the US and NATO forces – with the recent attacks on CIA’s Chapman outpost in Khost, a failed civilian government incharge, an incompetent Afghan army, and with 30,000 US troops on their way to what many now realise is a lost cause.

The biggest sign yet of the reversal of fortunes comes with a simple but symbolic ‘Are you with us or against us?’ from an senior Pakistan Army official to Secretary Robert Gates. Pakistan Army also made it clear to the US Secretary of Defence that Pakistan will actively oppose any plans that include India’s presence in Afghanistan, which it sees as unacceptable.

Keeping India Out Of Afghanistan

Pakistan has successfully mobilised the defunct six-plus-two talks formula to counter the US pressure regarding giving India a “greater role” in warn-torn Afghanistan’s rehabilitation.

Afghanistan’s immediate neighbours – Pakistan, Iran, China, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, as well as the US, met last week in Turkey to discuss the situation in Afghanistan and to take stock of measures for the restoration of peace in the country. The original “six-plus-two” also included Russia, but in the new set up Moscow representation has been replaced by the United Kingdom.

Diplomatic sources said Pakistan had been lobbying for the renewal of talks among Afghanistan’s neighbours in order to foil Indian designs of gaining a foothold on Afghan soil.

Pakistan believes India is not an immediate neighbour of Afghanistan and therefore should have limited role in the country.

Turkey was asked to convene the meeting, as it enjoys the backing and trust of Pakistan and is accepted as a neutral party for promoting a common approach to the conflict. The conference urged regional players to work together in order to stabilise Afghanistan and the region.

The revival of the talks group came at a crucial juncture – two days before the London Conference attended by 50 nations to discuss the Afghan issue and deliberate on measures to help the war-ravaged nation. The organisers of the London Conference, like the US, had been trying to convince Pakistan on accepting the greater Indian role in Afghanistan.

India appears to be the biggest loser from the London conference. Not only has Pakistan succesfully managed to keep it out of key decision-making, but has also offered to help train 300,000 Afghan Police and Army personnel within the next 2 years – a role that India had been whoring itself out for.

Participants of the London Conference also rejected India’s assertion that there were ‘no degrees of Talibanism – all factions must be fought and destroyed’. India often bundles the Kashmiri militant groups within this classification, in an attempt to discredit the legitimate Kashmiri freedom struggle. New Delhi has even gone to the extent of alleging the presence of Afghan Taliban in Indian occupied Kashmir – which was rejected outright by its own Armed forces, causing massive embarassment.

On the other hand, it is Pakistan that seems to have come out of this conference with its head held high. Not only does the world accept the need for bringing Afghan Taliban into the political frame – a long-standing demand of the Pakistan Army – Pakistan has also been requested to assist in brokering the deal which the US and NATO believe will allow them a safe exit.

Any attempt to ‘buy out’ a group of ideologues, who by any description are not much more than a ragtag army of lightly armed Mujahideen, shows the desperation of the US and its allies and their utter ignorance in understanding the mindset of their nemesis. The United States of America will become the latest in a long line of empires and superpowers who have been buried under Afghanistan’s mountains and dusty plains. Billions haven’t been able to save them, another 500m won’t do the trick either.

وَلَا تَهِنُوا وَلَا تَحْزَنُوا وَأَنتُمُ الْأَعْلَوْنَ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ
“And be not infirm, and be not grieving, and you shall have the upper hand if you are believers. (3:139)”

Dan Qayyum is part of Islamabad based thinktank ‘BridgeHead Institute’.

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37 comments

  1. Desperate housewives pay hunks to have a good time. USA isn’t any different from them! 😀

    They paid Billions for a honeymoon in Afghanistan, and are now willing to pay another US$500m…

    hahahahaaa!!! Pussycats!


  2. Once the US leaves Afghanistan …Then we will have the Afghan Taliban ruling afghanistan again Inshallah …Then we will deal with INdia 😀 😀 😀

    Sorry cow lovers but payday is coming 😀 😀 ;D


  3. Once the US leaves Afghanistan …Then we will have the Afghan Taliban ruling afghanistan again Inshallah …Then we will deal with INdia 😀 😀 😀

    Sorry cow lovers but payday is coming 😀 😀 ;D 😀


  4. Afghan Taliban’s decision to detach from Al-Quaeda is very wise one,specially Aiman Al Zwaheri,who should go back to Egypt and fight there.He is needed there if he is really so brave.

    The last Taliban government had agreed to give the Northern Alliance 80% share in the govt,which will bring peace immediately.It will also finish Baloch insurgency,orchestrated by India.

    In nutshell,India ki ummeedon per pani,and India can spend money thus saved on toilet making.


    • talibans have rejected your peace efferts till kafirs leave afghanistan


  5. Afghans will receive $500 million, Pakistanis will receive kick in the butt, which it will continue to receive long after the Anglo-Americans are gone … !

    There is no escape for you Pakistanis, you will continue to be consumed in your own fire !


    • worry about your naxalites first buddy they are kicking you everyday.


  6. First they cause a problem and then try to buy their way out, they should face the reality, history repeats itself and the same will happen with America as it did with the Soviet Union.


  7. neither INDIA nor PAKISTAN are friends to Afghanistan or Afghans. Both want to have strategic depth. this is the time for Afghans to be wise and deal wisely with them


    • This is a comment of an uninformed person. Go and ask the real muhajaddin as to who do they favor. United, we are both strong (Pakistan & Afghanistan), so strong that we brought the first superpower to its knees, and now bringing the second one as well. This is what our enemy wants, isolate us, separate us and then deal with us. We all need to wake-up now and unite. The enemy knows our weakness, do not help them materialize it.
      Muslim Ummah, ZindaAbad.


      • may be ur right that both pakistan and india want strategic depth in Afghanistan but wats in the favor of afghanistan???we have seen in the 80s support from pakistan helped afghans defeat the soviet and now the same fate awats Nato.
        Its high time that Afghans should identify their true friends,friends who support 4 million afghan refugees and stand with u in the worst of times.if their is no thank you in friendship atleast their should be dignity and self respect..


  8. Afghan Taliban can never be defeated. This is what General Mahmud Ahmed said to Collin Powel but powel thought he is very smart. Now his nation is paying for those blunders.


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  10. It looks like another big strategy to me. As apparently they are dealing with taliban and showing the world that we are leaving Afghanistan. On the other hand they are preparing for another 9/11 which is due before 2012.

    I believe , They wont leave afghanistan as this is the base for them to control central asia specially Pakistan and not to ignore CHINA.

    Something has to be done coz NATO forces are not co-operating with them anymore so what ever you hear is a part of big DRAMA.

    Well ! Hope for the best and prepare for the worst. May ALLAH help all muslims inshaALLAH.


    • This seems quite logical.They know the history of Aghans they would never have attached keeping in mind the fearce resistance from afghans.
      This definitely is a trick to over shadow their hedious designs against Pakistan…
      Pakistan Army is No Doubt doing very well but we should not be appeased by these meager successess.
      un less nato leaves we should not take a sigh of relief..


  11. If you all thik that the Americans will leave afghanistan so easily then you are all wrong my dear ….this is the only country on earth that have actually use the A-Bomb against another nation and they will use it again if the need arises .Dont ever think that, they will be shy of doing it again .

    About India in Afghanistan …as soon as the Americans and NATO forces leave so would the Indians go too…we know that very well and they too know it …There is no question that the Talibs will ever tolerate the infidals there amongst the pure and PAK


  12. the quranic ayah mentioned in the last line, is so relevant here mashallah.


  13. **********the PKKH team**********
    Please take notice of these indians who are cluttering our website with nothing but utter trash. And take notice of the insulting remarks they are regurgitating against our Prophet (PBUH). This is meant to generate a discussion amongst Pakistanis not accommodate trash talking by these social isolate low life indians. Recently we’ve seen indian masquerading as Pakistanis and using our nicks to spread their trash. They were duly caught after much prompting and their comments were removed but the very next day they were back again with the same nonsense. Now we don’t have any problems in nailing their asses to the wall but it takes the focus away from the topic at hand. As the Pakistan movement takes more and more momentum and more people visit this site, it is really disgusting to see these filthy comments by these degenerate indians. Is anyone really monitoring these posts.


    • Dear Saffronslayer,

      Thanks for bringing it to our notice. We do monitor on a regular basis, however, it is only natural that amongst hundreds of comments posted, some go unnoticed. Nevertheless, we’re being more vigilant now that this has come to our notice. Don’t worry, Bhartis can’t really do much you know. Plus, they’re so much used to shitting outside their toilets that they can’t hold back their shit even while surfing the internet. Eventually, they’re gonna get what they’re askin for: Pesticides.

      Except for the few sane ones, the other ones can’t keep themselves from vomiting wherever they go.


      • @saffron, I have personally removed all offensive comments. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We take the honour and respect of our beloved RasulAllah (PBUH) very seriously. People who make offensive comments regarding his exalted person have no place on this forum. Thanks. Mod PKKH.


      • @sumayyac..tnanks once again for taking note of the abusive and offensive comments regurgitating from these indians. It is a testimony to the excellent job that u guys have done that the indians are now acknowledging their defeat on these forums. When they lost their arguments the indians resorted to their typical low life tactics of either being abusive or masquerading as Pakistanis using our nicks. Like I said before, we have no problem in whipping their asses and nailing their dead carcasses on the walls but that just takes the focus away from the current subject. It is indeed the legacy of PKKH team that they raised our sabz hilali parcham high in the throes of darkness and despair and became a catalyst of change…of reclaiming our identity….and MashAllah came out a winner in the end. You guys have contributed so significantly to the youth revolution and literally shredded the psyops propaganda to bits. Indeed for the indians and all the anti pakistanis, it has been an ass whooping of biblical proportions. I personally recommend this website to everyone that I come across. Keep up this excellent work. From Sabz Hilali Gumbad (of Masjid e Nabawi (PBUH)) to Sabj Hilali Parcham (of Pakistan – the Madina e Sani), b/w ideology of Islam and identity of Pakistan, PKKH is playing a massive role in the revival of Ummah.

        p.s. I got a little emotional there on my post but this is exactly how I feel…cheers


  14. The US would not have put an additional 30000 troops unless it believed to gain something. The London conference is just an eyewash for something sinister to come by during the summer months. Sequentially the drama acts will be as follows: Act 1. a military coup in Pakistan. Act 2. A mini civil war in Pakistan Act 3. Then the break up of Pakistan into manageable parts.
    The US & its allies (including India) know that the Taliban are no threat to it – it is actually Pakistan it is after. The Taliban will just be a cover to target Pakistan.


    • Your crystal ball is lieing!.The 30,000 yanks will be killed just like the Russians were because Pakistan doesn’t trust them!.Let them come and fall into the trap!

      Actually i sense a massive internal conflict in the USA very soon like many political analysts have predicted were as Pakistan is certain to survive!.Imperialist America will end up the same way as all opressive empires do that is in the gutter of history where only it’s name will remain on paper of what it once was!


      • i agree with jane. london conference is really an eyewash with something bigger in the making against pakistan and to apprently cool down the world and USA itself. There is a great disturbance felt in America about this never-ending war and there has to be something done occasionally to keep the show running.

        On the other hand, there is no real likelihood of any internal conflicts in USA. There are people talking about it but this is not really going to happen. Believing that USA will end all by itself just like that will not solve pakistan’s problems. It is also true that a civil war is being planned in pakistan with taking excuse of taliban and pakistan nukes. In a more realistic way, a war is coming to pakistan. There is balkanization planned along with civil wars but whats important is that we know of it and are ready to counter these but at the same time unless we understand the enemy’s mindset and its designs, we cannot help ourselves. We have to prepare for worst case scenarios, nothing is going to get better than more ugly. Believing in enemies dying themselves will not create solutions but problems.

        I personally feel that 2010 and 2011 are the last two years of american campaigning in the region. Much will happen in these two years. USA plans to wrap up project Pakistan by 2012 because not much time can be given to China and Israel cannot wait more to do what it wants. They are in a hurry now. These two years will see more hardships for Pakistan at different levels. i also feel, the greatest hardship pakistan has to go thru will be of going to war alone with a dozen of enemies. USA deliberately plans a civil war in Pakistan and an anti-usa government if civil war does not help. We should understand that they want war. America is pushing us, they are trying so hard on us to defy them so this gets where they want it to be. The funny thing is, pakistan also wants to break away from USA. Who comes on top will depend on much more.


  15. After getting ignored by the world community last week in Turkey and Britain, India staged another diplomatic somersault. It declared that India would be ready to do business with Taliban if the former abided by some conditions. India opposed tooth and nail the general realization by the world community that the only way forward in Afghan quagmire would be talking to Taliban. Indian preached conspiracy theories about Pakistan and declared all Taliban as evil, no less no more. While India has now been forced to disgracefully have a volte-face regarding Taliban, Indians still think that Taliban are dying for doing business with Indians. That may be an extreme case of self-deception. How can Afghani people in general and Taliban in particular forget the dirty Indian role in fueling the civil war in Afghanistan and continuing bloodshed of Afghanis during nineties? How can Afghan Muslims forgive Indians for joining the gang of evils to play a dirty role yet once again in supporting global rouges in killing and occupying Afghans? How on earth the Taliban would be willing to do a business with New Delhi? Afghans have certainly not forgotten the consistent Indian support for Soviet occupation during the eighties either. Having always played as rouge against Afghan people, disgraced Indians now desire to do a business with Taliban. Is that called diplomacy and deception?


  16. SOONER THE BETTER OR ELSE EVIL SHALL BE BAILED OUT.


  17. Pakistan Zindabad. We should break all ties with India, atleast temporarily if not possible completely, to sort things out internally and externally. We should block all their TV/radio transmissions, which is leading our youths astray and leading our homes to strange mental dilemma through their movies/plays of sheer illusions and using thier colorful and immoral religious practices only to derail Islamic approach in our younger generations. We must not forget that India is a non muslim country, although they claim to be secular but 80% are non muslims and muslims there are suppressed, I have seen myself. So leaders of Pakistan – break ties with India at once – and give one more blow to them and hit the last nail in their coffin. Geo Pakistan.


    • That hehehe might mean some thing only to the unfortune lady who gave you birth. To all of us, you are a mental who can not even adopt a Hindu name. You Hindu coverd hiding behind Babur’s name, she must be proud of you! The real Hindu Kush Emperor Babur must be around here but he must be sadened and unhappy that a coverd jerk is faking him.


  18. May Allah always protect them. Allah says that I shall b wz u if u r honest wz me. Allah o Akbar.


  19. Not too many ever get a 2nd chance, so if you do (Taliban, Remember, A “Woman” is the mother “Future” of your nation, Nation of Islam. Treat her with dignity or else you will never have a Future.
    And my fellow Indians, what are you smoking, who says you are Rich, Look around yourself, just dont betray the Poor Community where you belong or else you will not belong in Asia at all and just become a tool of the Imperialists, please, wake up, Pakistan made that mistake in the Fifties and Paid heavily, and now you are doing it, you aught to smarter than that. You must sort out your issues with Pakistan and China. It aint worth making friends with imperialists.


  20. Soon India and US will experience the same shamefull defeat as USSR got. Indian dirty game with their master (USA) will InshaAllah soon finish and we (muslims-pakistani/afghans and rest) will teach them another lesson of the century. I am thinking how Indian recover his big evil investments – 12 consulate and rishwat to warlords against Pakistam. Dirty Indian can’t understand the meaning of ‘Sayia Khuda-e-zuljalal’/ waiting to see broken India and USA – INSHAALLAH,


  21. Afghan transit route exists: We are being deceived.

    Indian goods taken to Afghanistan via Pakistan

    //Indian goods are being taken to Afghanistan via Pakistan under the tags of ISAF and NATO, despite Pakistan’s refusal to allow Indian products be taken to the country through its territory under the Afghan Transit Trade (ATT), says Pakistan’s media report.

    After the US attacked Afghanistan, the former military regime of General Pervez Musharraf offered a special concession to NATO and ISAF to use Pakistani ports and airports for importing their cargoes to Afghanistan by issuing a Customs General Order (CGO) for the purpose.

    Under this dispensation, such goods were given customs duty exemption and Pakistani customs officials were neither allowed nor they had any mechanism to check details of imported items and had to accept the information provided by the countries in the international alliance. The present government made no changes in the arrangement introduced by the Musharraf regime.//


    • Musharraf was a complete disaster for Pakistan and will go down in history for being the biggest asshole our armed forces ever produced.

      That man not only gave Afghanistan to USA without any conditions but he
      proved to be completely ineffective in the fight against TTP. Being an economic failure can be understood given that mans background but being a security failure is unforgiving as a General-President.

      Bozzdil hummay terrorism our amriki backed criminal rulers kay darmiyan choor kay khud Europe bhaag gea.

      Baighairat our dhokhaybaaz!


      • Son, instead of cursing him, enjoy the cherished democracy that we have been craving for. Musharraf simply left us with what we desired most. Speaks volume about the culture & mind set in Pakistan. Things cant be changed over night and our current leadership is far more worst than Musharraf…


      • I see that you have some sense of the reality to what is actually happening in our country …people who curse President Musharraf are surely far off the actual situation of our regional politics…not to say that everything he did was good but surely he was much much better than the whole lot that we have around at the moment…Democracy yes..but does it work around here ?

        that is the question we all have to seek ?

        are we in pakistan ready for the western type of Democracy today ?


  22. It is disgusting to see how in the same post people talk about the respect that we owe to our beloved Prophet Muhammed pbuh and then goes on to abuse Indians and says retarded things like”piss,shit, cola etc etc” . Is this what your affection for Islam has lead you to . Would our beloved Prophet Muhammed ever behave with a polytheist in this manner? His behaviour was so beautiful that the polytheists accepted Islam by spending some moments of it. You guys should be ashamed of yourself. Even the moderator of this thread is involved in this disgusting behaviour. InshAllah may allah guide you all. Even if a polytheist is defecating in the open and drinking ‘piss cola’ you guys should remember that your ancestors were also one of them before the light of Islam was brought to them. Instead of separating their practices from the person you are making fun of them, if you think Islam is for you personally and these “piss drinkers” dont deserve it be afraid of Allahs wrath. You might achieve your goals in this world because of the pious in your ranks but Allah has knowledge of all your actions And you will be answerable. I advise you my fellow muslims to study/listen To the seerah of Muhammed pbuh instead of wasting hours talking about “piss cola” etc. Find out how he behaved with his polytheist enemies. Stay objective, explain how they are wrong in their practices of worshipping idols. I hope you will seek Allahs repentance for the numerous Hindus you turned away from Islam(allah forbid) . If you want to argue do so but do it in a manner! The debate should show your intellect and knowledge owing to your true worship of the one and only Allah(the absolute and eternal)


  23. It is disgusting to see how in the same post people talk about the respect that we owe to our beloved Prophet Muhammed pbuh and then goes on to abuse Indians and says retarded things like”piss,shit, cola etc etc” . Is this what your affection for Islam has lead you to . Would our beloved Prophet Muhammed ever behave with a polytheist in this manner? His behaviour was so beautiful that the polytheists accepted Islam by spending some moments with him. You guys should be ashamed of yourself. Even the moderator of this thread is involved in this disgusting behaviour. InshAllah may allah guide you all. Even if a polytheist is defecating in the open and drinking ‘piss cola’ you guys should remember that your ancestors were also one of them before the light of Islam was brought to them. Instead of separating their practices from the person you are making fun of them, if you think Islam is for you personally and these “piss drinkers” dont deserve it be afraid of Allahs wrath. You might achieve your goals in this world because of the pious in your ranks but Allah has knowledge of all your actions And you will be answerable. I advise you my fellow muslims to study/listen To the seerah of Muhammed pbuh instead of wasting hours talking about “piss cola” etc. Find out how he behaved with his polytheist enemies. Stay objective, explain how they are wrong in their practices of worshipping idols. I hope you will seek Allahs repentance for the numerous Hindus you turned away from Islam(allah forbid) . If you want to argue do so but do it in a manner! The debate should show your intellect and knowledge owing to your true worship of the one and only Allah(the absolute and eternal)

    Salam alaykum



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