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Rotten Tree of Democarcy Must Be Uprooted

November 8, 2009

Talha Mujaddidi | PKKH

“Another such victory and we have had it”, King Pyrrhus of Epirus

This ancient quote comes to mind after witnessing the latest run of CIA imposed democracy in Pakistan. The old crooks back with gloss and glitter. The biggest crook getting the biggest prize, the Presidency, the rest of the goons settling for ministries and cabinet posts. The humble people of Pakistan were mesmerized by the media into welcoming these crooks back into power. People have short memories, it is true for any nation, but a nation that forgets its history has its geography changed by its enemies.

The masses were blinded by the media and the liberal fascists who want to enforce their 1% doctrine of western cultural, political, economic and secular agenda on the 99% nation of Pakistan. The mantra of democracy was tuned into the minds of the people using the best propaganda tool ‘the television’. Now second year into the Zardari government people are praying for Divine intervention or some miracle to rid the nation of this cancerous government. On the other hand, the 1% liberal fascist elite class wants to enslave 99% of the nation into bowing down to US slavery. We shouldn’t really blame them for they have been programmed into being nothing else but servants of the Zionist cabal.

The so called popular sentiment ingrained into the viewers’ minds by TV anchors and talk-show hosts, that the ‘worst democracy is better than military dictatorship’ – is absolute rubbish and distortion of facts. The people of Pakistan do not care if a civilian prime minister is ruling over them or a General. The nation is looking for someone who can solve the ills of the society. We don’t care about western urban jargons and CNN’s polls on democracy in Pakistan or IRI’s opinion polls.

From being a slum Malaysia became an ‘Asian Tiger’, was this achieved through democracy or one man’s benevolent leadership? What about UAE, Qatar, or Kuwait? Is there any democracy there? What about Indonesia? Ask any Indonesian if they are having a good time with their democracy. Singapore had a benevolent dictator who turned Singapore from a pirate marshy swamp into 9th largest economy of the world. Add to that Chavez in Venezuela, Lula in Brazil and the list goes on. Even Russia has recovered from IMF and World Bank enforced torture through the able leadership of Putin (formed FSB head and a nationalist). And we must not forget China from this list.

What we don’t find is a model of European or US styled democracy able to lift people out of their misery anywhere in the world. Their own experience with democracy has been a disaster. UK has the highest number of fascists groups on its soil, followed by Germany and France. The US, has its entire socio-economic-political model collapsing on its own hollow foundations. Every nation that has tried to follow Western-imported democracy has been in ruins and complete disaster. Hondourus, Columbia, Panama, Philippines, South Korea, Mexico, and many other countries fill the list of failed democratic experiences.

Democracy in Pakistan means nothing more than a breeding ground for robber barons and scoundrels. Pakistan has a literacy rate of 40% and according to the UN Human Development Report one of the few countries in the world which has a declining literacy rate. Literate in Pakistan means anyone who can read and write their name. The electoral constituencies in Pakistan are nothing more than family holdings, where elections results have produced the same people every time elections have been held. Only change has been the different family members switching political parties, with half the family members sitting in opposition and half in government. The elite class became elite courtesy of selling their loyalties time and again to the highest bidder.

The political background of Pakistan is easy to understand. The Indian sub-continent was ruled by Mughals for a longtime. When Shah Jehan was the King, Mughal Empire had become huge and de-centralization was required. In order to rule efficiently the Mughals had divided the empire into provinces which were further divided into cities, and towns. Further sub-division led to the creation of zameens, or land holdings ruled by zamindar, which were loyal to the Mughal Empire, they paid taxes, maintained an army, which was also loyal to the Mughal King. When the sun set on the Mughal Empire Punjab was over run and ruled by Sikhs, the zameendars were in no mood to let go off their power and prestige and simply removed the Mughal Flag and replaced it with Sikh Flag. It’s indeed easier to sell your soul, than die with honor. When the Sikhs were overthrown by the British Empire the zameendars removed the Portrait of Raja Duleep Singh and replaced it with the Queen of England. These zameendars were not interested in anything else but maintaining their own power. Zameendars of Punjab were the most active among all. They happily served as subjects of the Mughal, Sikh and British Empire. When the zameendars saw that the creation of Pakistan was inevitable they started joining the Muslim League, and labeled themselves as patriots.

The British created their Unionist Party which openly called for the British to remain in India, and was against the creation of Pakistan. Almost all the zameendars of Punjab joined this party. The situation in Sindh was similar, and the famous families of Sindh and Punjab were getting their monthly stipends from British Empire. Chandios, Mengals, Talpurs, Tiwana, Jamali, Ghutani, Bazinjo, Bughti, Khan of Kalat, Mukhdoom family of Punjab, Aitezaz Ahsan’s grandfather, Hamid Nasir Chatta’s grandfather, Shahnawaz Bhutto, Sikander Hayat are just few prominent names from a very long laundry list of families whose allegiance for a few hundred years have not been with the people whose lives they are destined to destroy, but with their masters elsewhere. The irony is that the current political leaders are the grand children or direct relatives of these same people. The election result has not bought any change, we can have elections every year but it will never bring any change until we change the system once and for all. During Ayub Khan’s tenure, all the names mentioned above and others including Bhutto were against Fatima Jinnah in the Presidential elections with Ayub Khan. This is the patriotism of all these Zameendar families that they chose to support Gen. Ayub against Madr-e-Millat, Fatima Jinnah. Not only this they arranged many political Jalsay or rallies where they maligned Fatima Jinnah. These so called champions of democracy have acted in the most hypocritical ways over the last three or four hundred years.

The situation right now is that Pakistan is on the edge of turmoil because of these corrupt to the core political families and landlords who couldn’t care less about Pakistan or Pakistan’s interests. Both Nawaz League and PPP are completely incompetent to provide any direction to the nation. Both these parties are corrupt to the core, most of their party members are the same landlords who are not interested in anything else but making more money. ANP, another party that is in coalition with PPP, was founded by Abdul Ghaffar Khan, who was called “frontier Gandhi”, because of his allegiance to Indian Congress and his anti Pakistan stance. ANP still is a sub nationalist anti-state party. During the Soviet-Afghan war they openly supported the Soviet Union, and now the same ANP is supporting the US. Just recently party Chief Asfandyar Wali spent a longtime meeting key US officials in USA.

What we need in Pakistan is not CIA enforced hypocritical democracy – What we need in Pakistan is a complete overhaul of the system. We need to get rid of these tyrants and robber barons who have become our leaders in the name of patriotism. As Thomas Jefferson said, “tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

It’s high time that we wake up from our slumber and decipher the cheap rhetoric that our politicians have been feeding us from a very longtime. Democracy does not work in a nation with millions of uneducated people; democracy doesn’t work in a country where there have never been land reforms. CNN and CIA’s color coded movements can’t and will never work in Pakistan because people of Pakistan reject such democracies and will do so in future as well. We need to get rid of landlords and land owners who have monopolized the lives of rural peasants of Pakistan. The dream of Pakistan that was envisioned by Allama Iqbal and Jinnah will be achieved even if it takes some time. In Iqbal’s Pakistan there will be no place for these liberal fascists, and progeny of corrupt political parties. What they have with them are hollow western slogans, and corrupt politics, what we have with us are Islamic principles, Iqbal’s Khudi and Jinnah’s resolute courage. These are real ideas, and ideas are stronger than bullets, and can’t be replaced by ballots or textbooks.

Pakistan Zindabad

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23 comments

  1. mr Talha!

    u r 100pc correct in analysing the so called democracy of Pakistan. but question is who will bell the cat????

    who??????

    1. who will control the non-development governmental expenditures which are not running in millions every month?

    2. Who will identify the people who evade taxes, default on loans and steal national wealth?

    3. see the history of the country. Who ever ruled (a political party or a general) the grievance to the nation never came to an end. Who will bring a barrier?

    4. you have seen benazir era gives us medal of 2nd world corrupt country. She gave us zardari the never ending punishment give to the nation so far. nawaz gave us yellow cabs and destroyed banks. And generals like musaraf who spend 4 billion rupees just on referendum and his election campaign (all on our money). XE, blackwater and NRO all his gifts to nation. so who else do you think will add in this list??

    5. benazir destroyed the kalistan movement and let india free so the RAW would start their games in pakistan. who will give us patriots leaders like her??

    6. musaraf destroyed the Kashmir movement to make india happy and now india is making us happy in SWAT and SWA under the umbrella of the big boss the US. so who else do you think can do more good for us?
    7. musaraf using tools like sukhat aziz sold the nation to americans and left a disabled economy for us. and now americans are black mailing the current elite of politicians to do whatever they want, which these patriotic guys are already willing to do with nothing in return for the nation. no improvement to economy and we got new guests the !!The suicide bombers!

    8. and last but not the least the zardari. well GOD punishment for pakistani nation is in full swing.

    now who will bell the cat. will we always be indefinitely suffering the unchecked plunder by leaders in power and their ignominious deals with corrupt leadership of the past???


    • @neel 123

      The word itch “seems” appropriate when it comes from a persons such as urselves vocabulary.

      After all coming from a country where gay sex is sanctioned by a supreme court :D..the word “itch” is a misdemeanor…lol

      But i must say some achievement this has been for INdia – you’ve come along way and have even by passed the animal kingdom 😀

      Animals have yet to pass such laws in their kingdom …lol

      Other than that what has india accomplished ??.. It never industrialized-it lives off of the poverty your leaders breed and the common man slaved in offices to work for cheap rates 🙂

      Work dependant on other nations when 40% of your country is on naxalite fire.

      Honestly, that army operation your looking to do against the naxalites is a step in the wrong direction ….just give them a seperate country .. Your union has done nothing for them.

      You people are not in denial but are also sick… where the only cure to sickness is for the minorities to break away. 😀

      Hope u take some advice …


  2. very nice article…thats the thinking and ideas we need to introduce among people so they wake up from hollow slogans of politicals parties and unite under bannner of islam and pakistan


  3. Extremely well written! And very enlightning. Thank you for this article Talha.

    @a.kiani: the fact that you mention the things you do, declares that you have a clear cut understanding, and can see whats going on. You are neither blind nor at sleep. And that, my brother, is the step in the right direction, you have awaken. This is exactly how change will come, and is coming inshallah. The more people realize the facts, the faster change will come.

    Pakistan was merely a first step in the right direction. There is a lot more to do. And we will, inshallah. So be prepared 🙂 and get to work.


  4. I totally agree with the article.
    I can only comment what i think. Just one point towards something positive.
    Bring Awareness not only in the urban areas of our country but also to rural areas as most of our electoral voters belong to these feudal lords and if they can change , we can shake this feudal system for sure. I think all of those belongs to all diferent parts of the country and what we need to do is to start campaigning about what govt is doing and all their black acts. Media is doing great job but we need to bring all the mass with us. Mind u n b careful our literacy rate is not great so blogs, online and media stuff can penetrate only the population which can online access or radio or tele. and we know with this poverty and expense not many can afford it. people from each town do something to propagate that. some violation of law can come up on tele or media regardless how big n strong is the person just email it around and do a jihad bil qalam. JazakAllah


  5. “Rotten Tree of Democarcy Must Be Uprooted” but it is not the only tree that needs to be Uprooted …

    here is another tree ..

    http://zuhayer.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/karachi-fashion-week-2009/


  6. Can i provide a silly looking solution,,,,
    let us (all the students ) in big metro city volunteer/support Tehrekai Insaf Imran Khan,,,,
    let us help him win a couple of seats in big cities like lahore , pindi or multan
    may be he gets a little root this time by that ,, and next time atleast he could become one of the stake holders or atleast has a voice or opinion that these other mofos like ppp, PML-N/Q and MQM will have to care about.

    what u guys say???


    • Silly looking solution…… 🙂


  7. […] Originally Posted by oceanx One question – pls do not take offense as none is intended: did you write all that yourself, "deathfromabove"? The ideas behind the "rant" were nothing new. But you sure did a good job "fleshing things out" as far as Pakistani domestic political evolution was concerned. None taken. Its an article taken from a Pakistani nationalist site. I'll post the link. And I've also written site initials – PKKH Rotten Tree of Democarcy Must Be Uprooted Pakistan Ka Khuda Hafiz […]


  8. @ Indian faggots!

    Read thia article and see that the Pakistani Nation has started to rise 🙂 …and change at first always starts from a minority.

    Long Live the Khurasan Empire!


  9. Very very bold article. I think Mush had a vision but he got involved in the post 9/11 trouble. Personally I always had a problem with democracy. But our population doesnot understand an alternative governance systems and the benefits of such a system. Also the exporters of Democracy are very good at their job. Average man on the streets sounds more democratic than the creators of democracy yet their day to day dealing appears otherwise. We as a nation r confused.


  10. Talha,

    You have echoed my sentiments. Unfortunately, as you correctly put, our media choose to remain under the delusion of democracy. They want to fix the system, get democracy going and hope eventually it will just fix herself. They feel good about democracy being so young in Pakistan as compared to USA or other western countries but FAIL to realize that there WERE some DIEHARD nationalists behind those democracies who stood against the exploitation of the elite classes be they US farmers of 17th or 18th century or Pakistan’s feudal class.

    The other day on some TV program, the anchor Sahir Lodhi said “President Zardari is our president,nonetheless. We should allow this democracy to continue. At least let the train ride on the tracks. ”

    Such are their views. They tend to forget until and unless the nationalist Pakistanis rise to the occassion, things will NEVER change. If one person puts on the weight over years of overeating. He will not loose weight UNTIL he controls his appetite and starts working out.

    My message to Pakistanis.

    Rise up against the occasion. Only the public can bring change. This change will come through revolution. The revolution created by loyal Pakistan loving Pakistanis. Those Pakistanis who resolve to change themselves. The resolve that you make with Allah(swt) to abide by the covenant which we made to Him before coming to the world.


  11. Mujhay Ye Iqbal Ka Bhai LAgta hay :> , hey ! , here should be think tank solution, planning, Discussing, and then implementing phase, like “Pakistan Sovereignity Act”, and get peoples who are sincere, gather it, and launch it (That give suggestions to implement and rectify anything), and that would be pure PAtriotic, any unpatriotic happen, should get one kickWarn Nod, there might be rules that every organization already had it in Pakistan, if one do wrong, the other one hammer DANDA on Violating Rule. There should be interdependency in Government organizations to follow rules within Pakistan.
    Everyone Whether here, Self Analyse,or within Pakistan, acording to some rules already specified. by Iqbal & Quaid-e-Azam and work autnomous, if find miscripitancy should point out & correct it.

    But for this Think Think Think, Discuss Patriotic people Discuss with more, and then Finaly implement Quality Assured ( Might be Very Hard), like any one against Pakistan, Kick Them hard.

    How’s that idea ?


  12. well written article by PKKH


  13. India is under unitary form of system, constitutionally and politically but, not under federal system
    Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
    “BHINDRANWALE WAS AN EVIL MAN”
    Extract from the exchange of views with a prominent Journalist Rahul Singh:

    RAHUL SINGH: rahul singh singh.84@hotmail.com wrote

    I AM SORRY BUT THIS RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME. I HAD ASKED WHY NO IMPORTANT SIKH LEADER OPPOSED BHINDRANWALE. HE WAS AN EVIL MAN WHO PROMOTED COMMUNAL VIOLENCE. OF COURSE, INDIRA GANDHI FOOLISHLY PROMOTED HIM, ON GYANI ZAIL SINGH’S PROMPTING, TO DIVIDE THE AKALIS. THAT WAS HER SHORT-SIGHTED POLITICAL STRATEGY. BUT HE COULD HAVE BEEN OPPOSED BY SIKHS, WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN. EVEN THE SENIOR AKALI LEADERS AND THE HIGH PRIESTS OF THE HAR MANDIR SAHIB WERE SCARED OF HIM. WHY? SINCERELY, RAHUL SINGH

    Dear Rahul Singh ji,
    rahul singh
    Sat Sri Akal!

    “BHINDRANWALE WAS AN EVIL MAN”

    First of all, nobody would like to use for him such a language that Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale was an evil man, what to talk of me though I personally never met him? As you said, “Of course, Indira Gandhi foolishly promoted him, on Zail Singh’s promoting, to divide the Akalis. That was her short-sighted political strategy” you must have rightly said so.

    Are only evils-devils always projected in politics in India as being experienced and, you also said so in case of Bhindranwale? If answer is yes, then I am no one to contradict you.

    The Akalis must have also preferred to remain silent strategically and foolishly.

    Moreover, India is under unitary form of system, constitutionally and politically but, not under federal system as being projected by and for the fools in India, that is only to show the outer world.

    To answer your question,” But he (Bhindranwale) could have been opposed by Sikhs, which did not happen, even the senior Akali leaders and the high priests of the har mandir sahib were scared of him, why?”

    I was or am not so experienced or badly trained politically and leaglly to give a direct or straightforward answer that “the senior Akali leaders and the high priests of the Durbar Sahib (Har Mandir Sahib) were having hands in glove with the Indian central agencies to get instructions from them in the case of Bhindranwale”.

    But, you are much experienced to say so, to call the Akalis equally guilty for their silence or for other reasons.

    To my knowledge, leaving aside the selected a few members of ’District grievances committees’ that was on papers then, no Akali leader was allowed to visit police stations where Sikhs were being inhumanly tortured, eliminated and kept in police custody without any record, later on shown disappeared.

    I did write a few lines when ‘the SGPC installed the portrait of Sant ji in the historical Sikh Museum at Durbar Sahib (Golden Temple), Sri Amritsar on November 29, 2007’ as under:

    To Know India!
    Oh! Genocide of Sikhs and the Generation Transformation;
    What are you murmuring?
    Where, how and by whom?
    Of minorities including Sikhs in India!
    Yes; through the so-called Babas-Saints and their henchmen!!!
    You mean to say in the name of Dharma gurus!
    Yes; who planned and when?
    The central agencies entered through Sant Bhindranwale-Taksal;
    Jarnail Sant Bhindranwale was too late to understand in Punjab;
    Then what happened?
    Sacrificed!

    (I bow my head before his sacrifice; he might be manipulated by the thoughtless)

    The sacrifice of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale would never be out of the Sikh history in the context of independent India.

    The life story of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale is a very painful part of Indian history and nobody could forget it. It shall always remind all the unanswered questions of planned Sikhs Genocide in independent India and to Know India!
    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Punjabi/Dharam%20ate%20rajniti-Sikh%20Siasat%20te%20ik%20jhat.htm

    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com


  14. Related to the Sikh politics and the Indian constitutional as well as political set up in India:
    Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

    “BHINDRANWALE WAS AN EVIL MAN”
    Extract from the exchange of views with a prominent Journalist Rahul Singh:

    RAHUL SINGH: rahul singh singh.84@hotmail.com wrote

    I AM SORRY BUT THIS RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME. I HAD ASKED WHY NO IMPORTANT SIKH LEADER OPPOSED BHINDRANWALE. HE WAS AN EVIL MAN WHO PROMOTED COMMUNAL VIOLENCE. OF COURSE, INDIRA GANDHI FOOLISHLY PROMOTED HIM, ON GYANI ZAIL SINGH’S PROMPTING, TO DIVIDE THE AKALIS. THAT WAS HER SHORT-SIGHTED POLITICAL STRATEGY. BUT HE COULD HAVE BEEN OPPOSED BY SIKHS, WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN. EVEN THE SENIOR AKALI LEADERS AND THE HIGH PRIESTS OF THE HAR MANDIR SAHIB WERE SCARED OF HIM. WHY? SINCERELY, RAHUL SINGH

    Dear Rahul Singh ji,
    rahul singh
    Sat Sri Akal!

    “BHINDRANWALE WAS AN EVIL MAN”
    First of all, nobody would like to use for him such a language that Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale was an evil man, what to talk of me though I personally never met him? As you said, “Of course, Indira Gandhi foolishly promoted him, on Zail Singh’s promoting, to divide the Akalis. That was her short-sighted political strategy” you must have rightly said so.

    Are only evils-devils always projected in politics in India as being experienced and, you also said so in case of Bhindranwale? If answer is yes, then I am no one to contradict you.

    The Akalis must have also preferred to remain silent strategically and foolishly.

    Moreover, India is under unitary form of system, constitutionally and politically but, not under federal system as being projected by and for the fools in India, that is only to show the outer world.

    To answer your question,” But he (Bhindranwale) could have been opposed by Sikhs, which did not happen, even the senior Akali leaders and the high priests of the har mandir sahib were scared of him, why?”

    I was or am not so experienced or badly trained politically and leaglly to give a direct or straightforward answer that “the senior Akali leaders and the high priests of the Durbar Sahib (Har Mandir Sahib) were having hands in glove with the Indian central agencies to get instructions from them in the case of Bhindranwale”.

    But, you are much experienced to say so, to call the Akalis equally guilty for their silence or for other reasons.

    To my knowledge, leaving aside the selected a few members of ’District grievances committees’ that was on papers then, no Akali leader was allowed to visit police stations where Sikhs were being inhumanly tortured, eliminated and kept in police custody without any record, later on shown disappeared.

    I did write a few lines when ‘the SGPC installed the portrait of Sant ji in the historical Sikh Museum at Durbar Sahib (Golden Temple), Sri Amritsar on November 29, 2007’ as under:

    To Know India!
    Oh! Genocide of Sikhs and the Generation Transformation;
    What are you murmuring?
    Where, how and by whom?
    Of minorities including Sikhs in India!
    Yes; through the so-called Babas-Saints and their henchmen!!!
    You mean to say in the name of Dharma gurus!
    Yes; who planned and when?
    The central agencies entered through Sant Bhindranwale-Taksal;
    Jarnail Sant Bhindranwale was too late to understand in Punjab;
    Then what happened?
    Sacrificed!

    (I bow my head before his sacrifice; he might be manipulated by the thoughtless)

    The sacrifice of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale would never be out of the Sikh history in the context of independent India.

    The life story of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale is a very painful part of Indian history and nobody could forget it. It shall always remind all the unanswered questions of planned Sikhs Genocide in independent India and to Know India!
    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Punjabi/Dharam%20ate%20rajniti-Sikh%20Siasat%20te%20ik%20jhat.htm


  15. Indira Gandhi Shall Be Remembered As A Thoughtless Lady In The History

    Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

    After contemptible army attack in June 1984, the Indian army stormed the Sikhs’ holiest shrine, the Durbar Sahib (Golden Temple) in Amritsar, Sri Akal Takhat Sahib other historical Gurdwaras of Punjab, and thus, then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi did the contempt, intentionally and deliberately, of Sikh religion and of killing of thousands innocent Sikhs including minor children and women in the army operation.

    Under the circumstances, the conceited Indira Gandhi proudly wanted to send a message worldwide that after all this, she was not afraid of Sikhs and, to prove further them coward, kept Sikhs her bodyguards in the inner security circle, from where nobody could ever escape and think so to take the risk of committing the crime.

    But, Beant Singh and Satwant Singh took this extreme step because of the outcome of intense feelings that carried away them, for the reasons of the deliberate religious contempt and the killings of innocent Sikhs by her action and the Indian army.

    It would always be wrong and incorrect to say that she trusted Sikhs as her bodyguards.

    For the ignorance, Indira Gandhi was herself guilty and for ever, shall be remembered as a thoughtless lady in the history.

    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com


  16. Indira Gandhi Shall Be Remembered As A Thoughtless Lady In The History

    Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

    After contemptible army attack in June 1984, the Indian army stormed the Sikhs’ holiest shrine, the Durbar Sahib (Golden Temple) in Amritsar, Sri Akal Takhat Sahib other historical Gurdwaras of Punjab, and thus, then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi did the contempt, intentionally and deliberately, of Sikh religion and of killing of thousands innocent Sikhs including minor children and women in the army operation.

    Under the circumstances, the conceited Indira Gandhi proudly wanted to send a message worldwide that after all this, she was not afraid of Sikhs and, to prove further them coward, kept Sikhs her bodyguards in the inner security circle, from where nobody could ever escape and think so to take the risk of committing the crime.

    But, Beant Singh and Satwant Singh took this extreme step because of the outcome of intense feelings that carried away them, for the reasons of the deliberate religious contempt and the killings of innocent Sikhs by her action and the Indian army.

    It would always be wrong and incorrect to say that she trusted Sikhs as her bodyguards.

    For the ignorance, Indira Gandhi was herself guilty and for ever, shall be remembered as a thoughtless lady in the history.


  17. 1984 Sikh Genocide: Victims block rail traffic
    http://sikhsangat.org/2009/11/1984-sikh-genocide-victims-block-rail-traffic/#comment-1540
    Why victims block rail traffic only and ……..in India?
    “Though our hearts go out to the victims of the 1984 carnage, at the same time it does not help them anyway in harassing common people, many of whom may be travelling by trains to perform important assignments, including their duties.
    “All right-thinking people want that justice be done and all those against whom sufficient evidence or eyewitness account is available should be prosecuted for their role in the 1984 carnage, but at the same time, common citizens who may have been supporting us in our fight for justice, should not be inconvenienced,” adds Phoolka.
    Phoolka ji, you rightly said but in India, it was and is always different case e.g. as observed in the findings, ‘India: Prosecute Those Responsible for 1984 Massacre of Sikhs’:
    “The Sikh separatist movement is a classic case of human rights abuses leading to a cycle of violence that spins out of control,” Ganguly said. “Both the militants and the security forces committed horrific crimes, justifying them by pointing to the abuses of the other, and yet those who suffered most were ordinary civilians.”
    Here is the answer as to why victims block rail traffic only and …….. in India?
    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/5c563df503ffad425f339cab6907a181.htm
    Comment by
    Balbir Singh Sooch
    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com


  18. http://thesop.org/world/2009/11/09/tree-of-democracy-bares-no-more-fruit
    Tree of Democracy Bares No More Fruit……more
    Published: November 9th, 2009 08:26 EST

    http://thesop.org/world/2009/11/09/tree-of-democracy-bares-no-more-fruit

    Forwarded by: Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana. http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com

    https://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/rotten-tree-of-democarcy-must-be-uprooted/#comment-15223

    Indira Gandhi Shall Be Remembered As A Thoughtless Lady In The History
    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Indira%20Gandhi%20Shall%20Be%20Remembered%20As.htm

    “Bhindranwale Was An Evil Man”
    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Bhindranwale%20was%20an%20evil%20man.htm

    1984 Sikh Genocide: Victims block rail traffic
    http://sikhsangat.org/2009/11/1984-sikh-genocide-victims-block-rail-traffic/#comment-1540
    Why victims block rail traffic only and ……..in India?
    “Though our hearts go out to the victims of the 1984 carnage, at the same time it does not help them anyway in harassing common people, many of whom may be travelling by trains to perform important assignments, including their duties.
    “All right-thinking people want that justice be done and all those against whom sufficient evidence or eyewitness account is available should be prosecuted for their role in the 1984 carnage, but at the same time, common citizens who may have been supporting us in our fight for justice, should not be inconvenienced,” adds Phoolka.
    Phoolka ji, you rightly said but in India, it was and is always different case e.g. as observed in the findings, ‘India: Prosecute Those Responsible for 1984 Massacre of Sikhs’:
    “The Sikh separatist movement is a classic case of human rights abuses leading to a cycle of violence that spins out of control,” Ganguly said. “Both the militants and the security forces committed horrific crimes, justifying them by pointing to the abuses of the other, and yet those who suffered most were ordinary civilians.”
    Here is the answer as to why victims block rail traffic only and …….. in India?
    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/5c563df503ffad425f339cab6907a181.htm
    Comment by Balbir Singh Sooch,www.sikhvicharmanch.com


  19. As to how the Indian corruption goes on?
    Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

    SSP Kunwar Vijay Pratap Is Transferred, Pawan Kumar Rai Is New SSP

    http://www.amritsarhelp.com/amritsar/ssp-kunwar-vijay-pratap-is-transferred-pawan-kumar-rai-is-new-ssp/comment-page-1/#comment-4195
    The honesty of bureaucracy must act as a mask of corrupt politicians

    The honesty and hard work of bureaucracy must act as a mask of corrupt, incapable, inefficient and useless politician(s), otherwise, such bureaucratic officers getting fame and publicity, because of their better performance and doing justice to general public, never tolerated in the Indian immature democracy and or spoiled system, part of unitary form of system, as, was the case in hand.

    Sometime, it had happened reverse to it also. By copying and noticing the politicians that they (officers) are being used by them, they themselves act more corrupt and decide as to why to act as a conduit for the politicians and start directly dealing in the corrupt business and become millionaire within days.

    Under the circumstances, the politicians in their respective positions feel helpless and agitated. The transfer of SSP Kunwar Vijay Pratap could also be taken as a result of jealousy by the corrupt politician(s), that is a blot on the Indian democracy.

    If, my observation is also true, then definitely, we have to live for a longer period under the shadow of spoiled system and the false democracy. God may help us.

    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com


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    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Punjab-Industry-Secy-caught-taking-bribe/539498

    Nobody could be honest in the Indian unitary system!

    Two-day police remand for Janjua
    http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20091111/punjab.htm#1

    Punjab Industry Secretary caught taking bribe- Two-day police remand for Janjua- Though, I never met Mr. Vijay Kumar Janjua after 1989-90, but then, his devotion to duty and the honesty was unchallengeable, similarly I had seen initially, some other I.A.S. officers exceptionally and honestly performing at Ludhiana.
    One advocate told me yesterday, Mr. Vijay Kumar Janjua knew you very well and you also know him. What is your reaction now? Surprisingly, I said, really, is he the man caught accepting the bribe? I don’t believe.

    If, there was no plantation, intentionally and deliberately, to fix him, contrary to the allegations of his wife, then, it can be safely concluded that nobody could be honest in the Indian unitary system, constitutionally and politically, due to the various corrupt pressure groups and the politicians. Even, the officials or team caught him, may not be honest in the system.

    Then, I narrated the following story to that advocate, who gave me the information:

    As to how the Indian corruption goes on?

    Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

    SSP Kunwar Vijay Pratap Is Transferred, Pawan Kumar Rai Is New SSP

    http://www.amritsarhelp.com/amritsar/ssp-kunwar-vijay-pratap-is-transferred-pawan-kumar-rai-is-new-ssp/comment-page-1/#comment-4195

    The honesty of bureaucracy must act as a mask of corrupt politicians

    The honesty and hard work of bureaucracy must act as a mask of corrupt, incapable, inefficient and useless politician(s), otherwise, such bureaucratic officers getting fame and publicity, because of their better performance and doing justice to general public, never tolerated in the Indian immature democracy and or spoiled system, part of unitary form of system, as, was the case in hand.

    Sometime, it had happened reverse to it also. By copying and noticing the politicians that they (officers) are being used by them, they themselves act more corrupt and decide as to why to act as a conduit for the politicians and start directly dealing in the corrupt business and become millionaire within days.

    Under the circumstances, the politicians in their respective positions feel helpless and agitated. The transfer of SSP Kunwar Vijay Pratap could also be taken as a result of jealousy by the corrupt politician(s) that is a blot on the Indian democracy.

    If, my observation is also true, then definitely, we have to live for a longer period under the shadow of spoiled system and the false democracy. God may help us.

    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com
    November 11, 2009
    Comments by Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana


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    Forwarded by
    Balbir Singh Sooch
    http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com
    Sikh Carnage: Not just killed, the women dragged out and forced to watch the men folk being burned alive, and then the women and children slaughtered.
    http://trak.in/news/shekhar-kapur-remembers-1984-massacre/21625/
    Shekhar Kapur remembers 1984 massacre



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