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Former UK ambassador CIA sent people to be raped with broken bottles

November 6, 2009

By Daniel Tencer

craigmurrayThe CIA relied on intelligence based on torture in prisons in Uzbekistan, a place where widespread torture practices include raping suspects with broken bottles and boiling them alive, says a former British ambassador to the central Asian country.

Craig Murray, the rector of the University of Dundee in Scotland and until 2004 the UK’s ambassador to Uzbekistan, said the CIA not only relied on confessions gleaned through extreme torture, it sent terror war suspects to Uzbekistan as part of its extraordinary rendition program.

“I’m talking of people being raped with broken bottles,” he said at a lecture late last month that was re-broadcast by the Real News Network. “I’m talking of people having their children tortured in front of them until they sign a confession. I’m talking of people being boiled alive. And the intelligence from these torture sessions was being received by the CIA, and was being passed on.”

Human rights groups have long been raising the alarm about the legal system in Uzbekistan. In 2007, Human Rights Watch declared that torture is “endemic” to the country’s justice system.

Murray said he only realized after his stint as ambassador that the CIA was sending people to be tortured in Uzbekistan, country he describes as a “totalitarian” state that has never moved on from its communist era, when it was a part of the Soviet Union.

Suspects in Uzbekistan’s gulags “were being told to confess to membership in Al Qaeda. They were told to confess they’d been in training camps in Afghanistan. They were told to confess they had met Osama bin Laden in person. And the CIA intelligence constantly echoed these themes.”

“I was absolutely stunned — it changed my whole world view in an instant — to be told that London knew [the intelligence] coming from torture, that it was not illegal because our legal advisers had decided that under the United Nations convention against torture, it is not illegal to obtain or use intelligence gained from torture as long as we didn’t do the torture ourselves,” Murray said.

IT’S THE PIPELINE, STUPID

Murray asserts that the primary motivation for US and British military involvement in central Asia has to do with large natural gas deposits in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. As evidence, he points to the plans to build a natural gas pipeline through Afghanistan that would allow Western oil companies to avoid Russia and Iran when transporting natural gas out of the region.

Murray alleged that in the late 1990s the Uzbek ambassador to the US met with then-Texas Governor George W. Bush to discuss a pipeline for the region, and out of that meeting came agreements that would see Texas-based Enron gain the rights to Uzbekistan’s natural gas deposits, while oil company Unocal worked on developing the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline.

“The consultant who was organizing this for Unocal was a certain Mr. Karzai, who is now president of Afghanistan,” Murray noted.

Murray said part of the motive in hyping up the threat of Islamic terrorism in Uzbekistan through forced confessions was to ensure the country remained on-side in the war on terror, so that the pipeline could be built.

“There are designs of this pipeline, and if you look at the deployment of US forces in Afghanistan, as against other NATO country forces in Afghanistan, you’ll see that undoubtedly the US forces are positioned to guard the pipeline route. It’s what it’s about. It’s about money, it’s about oil, it’s not about democracy.”

The Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline is slated to be completed in 2014, with $7.6 billion in funding from the Asian Development Bank.

Murray was dismissed from his position as ambassador in 2004, following his first public allegations that the British government relied on torture in Uzbekistan for intelligence.

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16 comments

  1. “”include raping suspects with broken bottles and boiling them alive””
    Are they humans????
    This world need Khilafat…


  2. Important point to be noted:

    CIA & MI6 SHARE ALL INTELLIGENCE


  3. NO ONE HUMAN RIGHTS AGENCY AND UNO AGENDA CONDEMN IT


  4. What about every one else who know about it and yet not utter one word against it … forget about taking any action. We are not afraid of Allah any more so its easy to scare us all with any thing else.


    • Very right!


  5. Dear Editor:

    I am a bit surprised that Brasstacks is so very reluctant to show the entire map of Pakistan on any of your programs and sites. Most of the time you show the southern part of Pakistan.

    You MUST show Kashmir, Junagarh and Manvadar as PART OF PAKISTAN.

    Please do not leave any ambiguity on this matter.

    Editor Rupee News
    Moin Ansari


    • u are right very good point

      But i have once other option

      India can have Kashmir IF pakistan gets hyderabad

      as by indias logic , the local Raj decided what country to join and not ppl


    • >>You MUST show Kashmir, Junagarh and Manvadar as PART OF PAKISTAN.

      what about half of bengal and punjab? (the 3rd june’s map)?

      the response to india “love for peace” in region should only be lets first adjust the border to 3rd june 1947’s map.

      Pakistanis may start believing in ur rhetoric for peace.


      • wolpert stanley mentions about Mumbai massacre in his book Jinnah. Mumbai was also part of Pakistan.

        he also mentions that one of reasons to “give freedom” to SA was Britain was unable to pay the debt which was taken by using factories and resources of Sa in world wars.

        next time when they “speak” of the aid (read bribe) to our politicians – they should be given an assessment how they have been robbing us off directly and indirectly for decades.


  6. u r right moin ansari on this…i wont comment abt ur ppp support…but still waht u r saying is 100%right…those are our areas..and brasstacks hould show them


    • For all these years since independence the Pakistani military has managed to keep its people under an evil illusion – feeding them dogmatic morsels of anti-India propaganda,only to serve its own supremacist interests.Spreading canards abouts Indians – and Hindus has been a pet favourite – conveniently forgetting that Pakistani military has not won a single war with the so called ‘Hindu ‘India.It has only suffered reverses – 1971,1965,Siachien,Kargil and now the proxy war in Kashmir.The truth is that Pakistan is failing because of the extremist component in its Army – which has emptied up all its coffers and carved a strategy which was bound to fail.The Pakistani Army top brass has become an oligarchy in itself – impossible to reign in domestically.From Yahya to Gen Zia to Musharraf – all military rulers have ruined the identity of Pakistan.If only Pakistan could have become what its founding father wanted it to become – a liberal state with Muslim majority – and not a Islamic theocracy which Zia almost made it – the fate of the Indian subcontinent would have been very different.The Pak Army created the Taliban – hand in glove with America – and now is fighting the same monster for its survival.Americans continue to use Pakistan like a condom and Pakistanis cannot do anything but to accept their fate.Pakistani Army propaganda machine paints India as a ‘anti-Islamic’ country,forgetting that there are more Muslims in India than the whole of Pakistan.India has prominent Muslims in every walk of life – there have been two Muslim Presidents so far.India’s present Vice President is a Muslim.India’s top businessman and internationally recognised IT czar – Azim Premji also belongs to the faith.The point is that india continues to move on a constitutionally defined liberal path – secular,socialist and democratic.India has its many flaws but overall there is lots of optimism about the country.Pakistan is nowhere there – it remains tied up in its own contradictions.Unless Pakistanis see who their real enemy is – there is little hope of their country.The real enemy continues to play the Great Game,preferring to keep Pakistan as a pawn in the game.Pakistanis cannot see beyond India – some like to derive childlike pleasure in deriding small issues ,forgetting that this has no consequence for the future of their country.Pakistan needs to grow up and spit its venom of jealosy somewhere else – the foreigners continue to use Pakistan as a ‘nautch girl’ – dancing to their too familiar tunes.The country lives on doles – its ex-President is on the run.He cannot come back to the country after brandishing himself for 8 years as the saviour of Pakistan.The so called ‘father’ of Pakistan’s nuclear bomb lives under house arrest!The biggest misfortune is that Muslims have become Pakistan’s existential enemies – who are Taliban after all?The Punjabi terrorists,created by Pak Army have turned on to their masters.Pakistan has a crisis going on in every sphere of life – electricity,agriculture,economy,security and education.Extremists have gained upperhand over pragmatists and moderates.People like Zaid Hamid and Ahmaid Quereshi continue to poison young minds with anti-India propaganda.The saner lot of Pakistanis need to counter these merchants of hate and tell their folks that Hindus and Muslims lived in harmony for many years and the two-nation theory is a faulty theory.Today very few people bother about religion – they are worried about rozi-roti,bijli,pani,sadak.So wake up – face the real enemy and end the evil cycle of hatred.Religion alone is not going to take you anywhere in life.Pakistanis can never remove India from themselves because they came from there – they like Indian Bollywood movies (where Muslim stars rule),their favourite singers are Lata,Asha,Mohammad Rafi and Kishore.They secretly admire Sachin Tendulkar and Dhoni and they prefer to call themselves ‘Indians’ abroad(in the West)- so scared they are of retribution if described as Pakistani.’Paki’ has become a word of ridicule in the UK.All this has happened because the Army-extremist machine has created a distorted image of Pakistan internationally.So its high time the Pakistanis stopped listening to their Army-extremist propganda and started listening to their own conscience.Misconcieved ideas like we ruled India for 1000 years should be sent to the dustbin of history because that is not important for Pakistan’s survival.What is important is to make peace with India and fight the common enemy of extremism and fundamentalism.All the best to the Pakistan Army in fighting their self-created brothers in arms in Waziristan!


      • Ohh for fk sake stop repeating yourself like a parrott!.Don’t you have a Hindu lady to sleep with or send her to me!!!.Lolz.


      • go and have sex with a devadasi or ask ur wife to perform sati

        India 10x the size of pakistan cant even field 11 players to beat pakistan cricket team

        let alone an army capable of defeating the 80 million odd sons of pakistan

        If 11 pakistanis(who were actually RSS indians) can bring mayhem to india imagine 11000000


      • FOR ALL ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN..
        WE WILL MAKE A GRAVE YARD IN PAKISTAN…
        AND THIS STATEMENT WILL BE WRITTEN ON THE BOARD IN ITS ENTRENCE…
        “CUTTED-HEADS OF AGENTS AND MEMBERS OF ALL ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN BURRIED HERE. THEIR BODIES HAVE BEEN BURNED BCOZ WE DON’T LIKE DIRT ON OUR PAK LAND… OTHER ENEMIES R ALSO INVITED WITH THE SAME TREATMENT…..”
        PAKISTAN WAS FORMED ONLY TO LIVE LONG WITH THE POWER OF CENTRAL COMMAND IN THE WHOLE WORLD


  7. rendition needs to stop


    • Not just stop – but the people involved in this international illegal criminal activity have to face the law.

      Italy has already taken the first step. The rest of the world now needs to follow.



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