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The ‘tornado’ awaiting India

October 27, 2009

Rahimullah Yousufzai

“I fear there will be a bloody revolution in India,” a retired Indian military officer remarked to this writer and other guests during a recent visit to New Delhi. It was shocking to hear the comment from a soldier, in a country that supposedly had given a voice to its huge population and was believed to be all-inclusive.

It is obvious that India’s much-praised democracy hasn’t brought any real change in the lives of millions of Indians. That some of the poorest men and women are now up in arms in parts of India is evidence enough that democratically elected governments must do more to provide rights and justice to the rural poor and ensure even-handed development in different parts of the country.

The Naxalite violence in India has caused pain to most thinking Indians. For them it is a matter of anguish that a growing number of Indians are disillusioned with their country’s democracy and see no hope of benefiting from India’s steady economic progress. They have picked up the gun to fight for their rights.

The Maoist-linked violence is spreading and engulfing new places. The vast region affected by the insurgency include the states of Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Bihar and West Bengal and runs south through Orissa, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. It is usually called the “Red Corridor” because the leadership for the rebels is provided by communist cadres labelled as Maoists. The Communist Party of India (Marxists-Leninists), despite suffering splits, is still the standard-bearer of the rebels.

According to reports in the Indian media, more than 220 districts in 20 or so states are now affected by Maoist-linked violence. Indian intelligence agencies believe the movement has at its disposal 20,000 armed cadres and over 50,000 regular members. Apart from the rural poor, indigenous tribes such as the Girijans in Andhra Pradesh and Santhals in West Bengal have been flocking to the Naxalite movement. The movement has appeal for the dispossessed and the under-privileged. In the words of its present leader, Mupalla Laxman Rao, in hiding somewhere in eastern India and better known as Ganapathi, his party’s influence has grown stronger and it was now the only genuine alternative before the people of India.

The Naxalite movement began as a peasants’ uprising in May 1969 in the village of Naxalbari in West Bengal. It was initially led by 49-year-old Charu Mazumdar and its aim was to seize power through an agrarian revolution by overthrowing the feudal order. Mazumdar died in police custody 12 days after his arrest in Calcutta in 1972 and became a hero to Maoist cadres that have increased in number and strength over the years despite splits in the movement. The Naxalite insurgency has sprouted after every defeat and is now stronger than ever.

India’s share of the world’s poorest people has increased to 39 percent from 25 percent in 1980. In comparison, the Below Poverty Line population worldwide has decreased from 1,470 million to 970 million. There are reportedly 301 million Indians below the poverty line, just 19 million less than in 1983. The Human Development Report by the UN has been ranking India among the lowest 60 or 65 countries in the list of 193 nations that are part of the annual study. India’s poor performance on this score was in spite of the around nine percent growth rate in its GDP. There are reports in the media about farmers committing suicide or selling their wives to pay mounting debts. Though the recorded figures of such cases aren’t high in a big country such as India with 1.17 billion people, it still indicates the desperate state of certain communities.

India’s poor and marginalised groups have on occasions showed their anger through the power of the ballot. This happened in the 2004 and also in the 2009 national elections. The Hindu nationalist BJP tried to seek votes by coining the slogan, India Shining, in the 2004 Lok Sabha elections as part of its claim that its coalition government had brought prosperity during its five-year rule. But the electorate thought otherwise as the majority, particularly the poor and rural voters, the lower castes and minorities hadn’t benefited from the progress that had mostly made the rich richer. Their verdict in the polls was against the BJP-led NDA alliance and in support of the Congress and its allies. The Congress won again in 2009 despite the incumbency factor because it was largely seen as the party that cared more for the rights of the poor and the rural voters and was conscious of the concerns of the minorities, particularly Muslims.

However, it is the ruling Congress now that is confronted with the challenge of responding to the needs of India’s restless rural poor and tribal communities. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh recently described the Naxalite insurgency as the single greatest threat to India’s internal security. Rahul Gandhi, son of Congress head Sonia Gandhi and the rising star of Indian politics, has been focusing on the vast Indian hinterland, visiting the under-developed rural villages and spending nights at the homes of Dalits, often termed the poorest and most oppressed people in the country. This cannot be enough to calm down the Naxalites, who are convinced that only force could win the Indian people their rights.

A showdown between the Indian government and the Naxalites is now imminent. The Congress-led government is mobilising hundreds of thousands of security personnel, mostly police and paramilitary forces, to launch an offensive against the Maoists mostly likely in November. It has ruled out the use of the military, but the operation will be coordinated from New Delhi as part of a central government initiative. Indian analysts and foreigners knowledgeable about India have pointed out that the country lacked a cohesive strategy to deal with the insurgency. The ruling elites have also been criticised for being slow in responding to the needs of the poorest communities, who were then easily recruited by the Maoists.

Such is the hatred of the Naxalites for the ruling elite that their leader Ganapathi, a former schoolteacher, branded Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Home Minister P Chidambaran as “terrorists.” In a recent interview at his secret jungle hideout with the weekly magazine Open, he said “the people will rise up like a tornado under our party’s leadership to wipe out the reactionary blood-sucking vampires ruling our country.” At another point, the 59-year old Ganapathi declared: “Those (government) sharks want to loot the wealth and drive the tribal people of the region to further impoverishment.”

By threatening to unleash a “tornado” of violence if the Indian government went ahead with its planned large-scale offensive against his insurgent forces, Ganapathi has made the intentions of the Maoists obvious. Already, his men, and even some women cadres, have carried out actions that are now normally associated with the Taliban. They have kidnapped and beheaded government officials, blown up electricity and telephone towers, destroyed roads and railway tracks, killed political opponents and attacked police stations and other official installations. The offensive against the Naxalites will certainly weaken and deprive them of some of their bases and hideouts, but the issue cannot be resolved by the use of force alone. Many members of the Indian intelligentsia sympathise with the cause of the Maoists and objective analysts see it as an economic issue and one concerning lack of justice. The Indian ruling elite needs to tackle the root-cause of the insurgency instead of applying force through the state apparatus to crush the rebels.

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39 comments

  1. we should support these freedom fighters Naxalite , as india is supporting Pakistani Taliban


    • poda poori mone..kuna thayoli


  2. no we shouldn’t Irfan. Two wrongs dont make a right a mu friend


    • there is great different between supportring the “oppressed” and supporting the aggressor”.

      I do not think Pakistan is in such position to do so but as a Muslim state it should establish it self to not only stop aggression against it but anyone else in the world as well.


  3. @ Irfan Tariq dont worry kutay ki jab maut aati ha tau wo sheher ka rukh krta ha India apni maut khud hi mar jye ga

    Pakistan Zindabad


    • I accept that Pakistan is in serious crisis …. but it seems that with day-to-day deteriorating situation the damning fear of it disintegrating as a nation is hitting it’s national psyche so hard that people can’t differentiate between a nation that is on a progressive path versus a national that is on the brink of losing its own identity.

      The fear grappling Pakistanis is making it so real that the delusion about India disintegration and what is wrong with it is reaching a crescendo.

      Guys- All that the article presents may be a dismal condition, but the important thing is there a acknowledgment of these facts and there are some real efforts towards turning the tide the other way round. I may takes decades but atleast India is on the right track.

      Some reality bites if it helps to clear up this delusion….

      1) Pak’s Total Annual National Budget is approx $ 32 billion Dollars( much of it is still Foreign Aid Dependent) in comparison to India budgetary spend on Defence is ~$ 30 Billion for this year

      2) Though we still have a long way to go….we are now part of the G8

      3)Also as part of the continuing paranoia I know some people here are bound to compare us with China…. Let me be straight… we have nothing to learn from China because it economy is more dependent on US then any other country in the world( 33 % world trade between US and China) and that too because it has for long pegged it currency to the American Dollar and anybody with a little sense of economics will understand the fallacy of doing so… But having said that China is not in a state of crisis and whatever there state be they can handle it….

      My two cents to people here is …get to see the real side and get over with the India’s paronia


      • Bharat is on a progressive path? No more than just a lie. Bharat has been on a destructive path since its creation. It is on a collision course with people within and without. Internal fissures are getting deeper as the time passes and can not be filled merely by the excessive use of force and propaganda. India is bleeding internally for a long time now. True, their military has so far been able to suppress the people and keep the insurgencies contained to a certain extent. But the slow rot in Indian military has started showing up. How long the Indian soldiers can keep killing people that do not want to live as Indian? Indian military is in dire situation and is unable to fight even a limited war. That is why India was unable to really attack Pakistan despite tremendous pressure and hype at several occasions. While India may have $32B as its defense budget, Indian military still consists of dud systems and other crap WW2 vintage equipment. The chances of India collapsing internally are much higher than the chances of any other country in the region including Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, or even Bhutan, leave alone Pakistan. The bombing that is currently going on in Pakistan is certainly condemnable and it surely weakens the country. But the nation is united and solidly behind our armed forces. Some Pakistani people deeply resent the war on terror and want to say a goodbye to that sham war. External powers were able to exploit that resentment and divert the frustration against the Pakistani government. But no one in Pakistan, including those terrorists being used and exploited by the foreign enemy powers, really wants to break the country. In India, on the other hand, majority of the people want to get ride of the sham union. That majority, however, is not well organized yet because of the prevailing poverty (those areas are intentionally kept undeveloped by Hindu Brahmin) and lack of exposure to the means of modern warfare. But the time is not on India’s side. The militants of over a dozen insurgencies in India are getting more exposure to the new technologies and getting stronger by the day. One thing, however, is very evident that India, contrary to your wishful portraying, is on a path of self-destruction regardless how long the insurgents take in lynching the artificial country called India or Bharat.


      • @ viali …lol lol

        I hope you were not intending your 2 cent drivel to be some sort of an eye opener ??. We pakistanis certainly dont need a lesson of reality from people who are known to have the :

        1) largest slums in asia

        2) biggest bastard community in the world

        3) and a country whose supreme court recently ruled that their is nothing wrong with homosexuality…lol

        When you have such glaring credentials to your name and when you are willing to accept whatever your media is willing to show and conceal the elephants in your closet, then that leads to a very narrow mind frame, with all due respect befitting of a bull-cart pusher like you.

        If a problem is not highlighted it doesnt mean it does not exist. Pakistan does not have a class system where hundreds of millions of people are begging for their rights and many jurisidictions begging for freedom from your tyranny.

        But what we do have are certain world powers and their pet dogs sitting in afghanistan :).. And we are proudly combatting them and preparing to hit them where it hurts when the time comes.

        And as far as china goes, you very cleverly mentioned 33% of the trade is with the US .. What is the other 67% with ? – THE REST OF THE WORLD

        so they have become a supplier to the rest of the world whereas you indians were too busy mechanizing Cow Urine production !

        So now once you have temporarily pulled your head out of the cows rear you realize you have been beaten all ends up.

        Open you eyes, china is starting to get irritated with u

        – We are recieving your gifts and you already know what we think about u.

        – Your now starting to poke ur fingers in Iran

        – Afghanistan already gave u a reminder of the love they have for you.

        My advice to you is, wake up and pull your heads out of the cows rear and understand reality before its too late ..lol lol lol


      • Viali:
        1) The budgets of these two countries CANNOT be compared because of the huge popoluation differences. It sounds like a desparate attempt at proving a point.
        2) India is NOT a G8 country.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_G8_leaders
        3) “The United States is India’s largest trading partner”. So whats your point?
        http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3454.htm

        Food for thought…
        1) Indian army officer charged in connection with bombing…
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7839700.stm
        2) Naxalites…


        Whenasked what difference do you see between an Indian & a Pakistani, my response is that Indians over-estimate themselves while Pakistanis under-estimate themselves. This is why Pakistani perform much better than anyone else under pressure. Pakistan has issues, no doubt, but its only a realisation thats required amoungst the Pakistanis. Most of the time this realisation is provided by our enemies. So keep it coming…it makes us stronger…!

        If India had NOT planned the N-tests in 1974, Pakistan wouldnt have started it N-program in 1972. If the US hadnt stopped the shipment of F-16 fighters using the pressler amendment, Pakistan probably wouldnt have gone for independent program in the form of JF-17s with China & establish complete self-sufficiency in fighter aircraft manufacture, maintainence & export. [The Indian LCA program has been ongoing since 1994 without anything operational!]

        I have not seen a nation that more resilient that the Pakistani nation. I cannot find any other example of any nation who has gone through so much & acheived so much. The acheivements under its circumstances have been astonishing.

        People who think less of themselves can only do better…people who think of themselves more than what they are usually fall on their faces when a push comes to shove!…

        Therefore I think people in India need to be more factual in how they perceive themselves & not get carried away with the whole ‘Incredible India’ song & dance routine.


      • Sorry, let me correct myself, the Indian LCA program has been ongoing since 1983 [and not since 1994].


  4. Dear brothers, lets first deal with our enemies in our country first, they are the people who were created by us. Shame on us that we have turned our back to them because of us pressure. We have a habit of betraying though. But anyways we will beg more aid to the world and will try to atleast reach our national economy levels to that of indian defence budget. Khuda hafiz.


    • Ha Ha Ha!!!

      This is a classic example of a despised Indian. A lot of them have created username “Zaid Hamid” after being nailed in the ass by our defence analyst.

      I want to ask this Indian asshole and dickworhipping weasle to tell me when has India not BEGGED for aid and technical help. Read the article here at pkkh about how you plead for help from France, Israel, USA, Germany etc. Not only that you are sooooo jealous of Pakistan’s defence superiority that you actually hire terrorists to attack Pakistan’s defence projects as in attack on french engineers and chinese engineers.


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  6. The truth is that you indians dont want to wake up and accept that your time has come and you dont want to prepare yourself you just want to live under the shadow of flashy shinning india which in reality is just like covering shit with candles and calling it ur bithday cake.
    mark my words if pakistan is being destroyed then your path to destruction has already begun.


  7. Just two words for Pakistan
    !!!PAkiStAn ZindaBaD!!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    for india
    ()))))GAy Hind())))


  8. Just two words for Pakistan
    !!!PAkiStAn ZindaBaD!!!
    &&&&&&&&&&&&
    for india
    ()))))GAy Hind())))


  9. I don’t think nobody in India thinks Paksitan to be destroyed.. in face we need stable Pakistan. .Pakistan was never the topic of discussion in recent years, it only came in limelight becuase of Mumbai attacks..
    Pakistanis general don’t know anything about Maosits movement.. they just feeling happy that some force is protesting agianst india and they hope will eventually break India ..very interesting.. First of all .Maoists is not Anti national movement.. they do not want to break away from india .. their battle is agianst Govt policy of “Corporetisation” of mineral wealth lying beneth their forest land for which India has signed MOUs with different MNCs.
    Till 1997( When India celebrated its 50th birthday), Many western journalists from well known magzines ( Atlantis, Guardian, NY times etc.) predicted breaking of India ..After every communal riots(Babri etc.) they predicted now this country will break away and will result in muslim migration from India to Pak, after every political death or assacination( Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi), they predicted now India will do away with its democratic experiment and Military will take over ( many precited 1967 election as the last lection in India), after every Natural disaster ( earthquake, floods etc.) they predicted now famine will follow which ultimately leads to Food riots and breaking of Country.. but agian they gladly accepted that they were wrong ..why India survived is agian they told becuase its deeply rooted democracy..
    For Pakistan, Jinnah’s great dream of building single muslim nation shattered in 1971( its actully spared mountbatton’s prediction by 1 year as he predicted East Pakistan breaking in 25 years, it broke after 24 years), more than half of the times this country is rules by Military , even today nobody in the world knows what political framework followed in pakistan.. so far this country is ruled by feduals.. 80% of the cultivable land is owned by 20% of people who are manly feduals from sindh & Punjab.. the most interesting thing these feduals survive so long becuase they join the parties in the ruling .. for e.g Many feduals joined PPP after ZAB took over pakistan to keep their interest & prevent land reforms , the same feduals joined Zia the moment they see the Military is taking over & agian these people joined Benazir for preventing land reforms
    India has many more great poltical leaders and thnkers which knows there problem and solutions.
    PKKH has taken this article from http://www.thenews.com.pk & it actully picks only this article to satisfy many of the frustrated pakistanis becuase of their appalling situation & lost confidance of their country ..Please read the below articles from THe News to have picture of pakistan too .. the comments by pakistanis shows that frustration is too high . Its like “Look India has so many problems that means our problems do not exists” See the below articles from The News
    http://www.thenews.com.pk/editorial_detail.asp?id=204557
    http://www.thenews.com.pk/editorial_detail.asp?id=200373
    http://www.thenews.com.pk/editorial_detail.asp?id=203198 and many more
    The last request to PKKH .. is Can you allow me to publish articles in this forum . I have excellent study of Pakistan.. and I can give the referecnes from many of your histtories from your Army/Politicians etc that Paksitan who has taken the cause of muslims for all over the world is nothing.. Please allow me … It will make this forum Balanced..


    • Shabbir,

      You Indians are compulsive liars. We can’t trust any information coming out from you guys. You hate Pakistan from the bottom of your heart and you have been working to destroy it since day one. Don’t give me this bull-crap that Pakistan is not even discussed. I don’t care if it is not ’cause you matter little in our affairs. We can care less what happens to you country. We are ONLY interested in the progress and development of Pakistan.

      Democracy alone can never make a nation survive. It is ridiculous that you mention that. Do you have a small brain or what?

      The destruction of a country ONLY depends how mistreaded the public are. If you keep the difference between have and have-nots huge, the country will collapse. If you out of religious devotion MARGINALIZE a community (low caste people), the country WILL collapse. If Muslims, Sikhs, Christians don’t have the sanctitiy and security of their lives and properties in their own country, then the country WILL collapse. 2000 Muslims were murdered in cold blood with the assistence of the Police and provincial government. No actions were taken to arrest and punish the culprits.

      I am pretty sure the predictions of these journalists will come true with an unpleasant surprise for most Indians


  10. viali …lol lol

    I hope you were not intending your 2 cent drivel to be some sort of an eye opener ??. We pakistanis certainly dont need a lesson of reality from people who are known to have the :

    1) largest slums in asia

    2) biggest bastard community in the world

    3) and a country whose supreme court recently ruled that their is nothing wrong with homosexuality…lol

    When you have such glaring credentials to your name and when you are willing to accept whatever your media is willing to show and conceal the elephants in your closet, then that leads to a very narrow mind frame, with all due respect befitting of a bull-cart pusher like you.

    If a problem is not highlighted it doesnt mean it does not exist. Pakistan does not have a class system where hundreds of millions of people are begging for their rights and many jurisidictions begging for freedom from your tyranny.

    But what we do have are certain world powers and their pet dogs sitting in afghanistan .. And we are proudly combatting them and preparing to hit them where it hurts when the time comes.

    And as far as china goes, you very cleverly mentioned 33% of the trade is with the US .. What is the other 67% with ? – THE REST OF THE WORLD

    so they have become a supplier to the rest of the world whereas you indians were too busy mechanizing Cow Urine production !

    So now once you have temporarily pulled your head out of the cows rear you realize you have been beaten all ends up.

    Open you eyes, china is starting to get irritated with u

    – We are recieving your gifts and you already know what we think about u.

    – Your now starting to poke ur fingers in Iran

    – Afghanistan already gave u a reminder of the love they have for you.

    My advice to you is, wake up and pull your heads out of the cows rear and understand reality before its too late ..lol lol lol


    • LOL!!! Man you have an eye for India… very downgrading but mostly true… 😉


    • http://www.worldbank.org/

      Visit the world bank site!
      You will find out that pakistan’s per-capita income is LOWER than that of India.It has more illiteracy,higher population growth rate etc etc.

      Find out the Human Developement Rankings 2009.Maybe you may not know thet Pakistan is ranked LOWER than India.
      And just as you are adept at spreading myths about spectacular pakistani achievements, ARE YOU NOT AWARE THAT ORANGI IN KARACHI IS ASIA BIGGEST SLUM.

      http://pkonweb.com/2009/09/07/orangi-largest-slu/

      You guys are so busy trying to militarily compete and harm India that you fail to realise where your country is heading too.
      Pls PLS realise that India is changing fast, it is much stronger, economically and militarily than it was 10, 5, 3 yrs ago.It can and it does retaliate.Pls pls do no underestimate the harm India can do to pakistan.Live in peace and let live in peace.Be happy with the azad kashmir yu already have and stop dreaming of Indian kashmir.
      Look at yourselves where you are headed!

      India is a much larger country than Pakistan.So while the naxal problem seems frightening, it must not be forgotten that the sheer size of India makes it easier for us to isolate and handle the problem.So even with naxal affected areas India has little problem is economic and other activities in areas outside the naxal areas.Despite all thsi the Indian econmy continues to grow at a high rate.
      Smaller pakistan does not have that kind of luxury.
      Its better that you wake up from the rosy propoganda you are fed on


      • We have never admitted that Pakistan is free of problems of her own. Our problems SOLELY stem from our corrupt politicians who sell the country’s honor to enemies like India et al.

        Pakistan is sitting on the piece of realestate that will, ONE day, make it the richest nation of the world. The natural resources that WE possess is the envy of everyone.

        What Pakisan has achieved with all the International sanctions and Indian bombings is far greater than India. It is far greater in resilience, resolve, efficiency.

        If India can’t even produce her indigenous planes despite all the International support (with transfer of technology), this speaks volumes of India’s might.

        Also I don’t give a damn of what your standing is. You are NOT at number 1 yet. China is much greater, more sophisticated example for us to follow.

        I compare India to a middle class person who in his desire to befriend the rich, buys expensive cloths and expensive cars even if he has to pay in installments. This guy sports a rich front but from inside is deep down in debts and has no real source of income that he can be proud of.


    • Go to the world bank site:

      Pakistan has a LOWER PER capita income than india,lower literacy.It is below India in Human developement rankings.

      BTW the largest slum in Asia is ORANGI in karachi!!!!


      • Aww Rajk
        So now ur people don;t even have slums to live in???

        No wonder the World bank has stated that the poor people in India are increasing


      • BTW the largest slum in Asia is Dharavi in Mumbai!!!!

        Just type it in google and be amazed what it searches for slums…


      • Catalyst,
        Maybe you did not notice this:

        Orangi Township is Asia’s largest slum: UNDP

        http://pkonweb.com/2009/09/07/orangi-largest-slu/

        IM yes, several of the slum dwellers are being resettled in new housing projects aimed at slum removal.

        Povert levels in India are still huge and it will take years to bring them down.
        MY point is not to say that there is no poverty in India,but, to bring to notice that a lot is being done to reduce poverty, developement is taking place AND that NONE of us IN SOUTH asia is in a paradise yet.


      • What a cry baby! My point was simply stick to the topic…

        Plz don’t try to convince me as I have visited India,,, Like many places there but simply understand ur constant ignorance and lies about the grim reality that people live in everyday. It doesnt surprise me at all, Plz don’t try to decieve the readers here…


      • Sal/Rajk:
        You guys are right when you say Pakistan has problems & just pointing out India’s issues isnt going to help Pakistan. But India is part of the problem since the US/UK/Israel have decided to use India against China/Pakistan. [& by God the US policy makers must be biting their nails to have chosen the most incompotent player for the job]. Indias involement in Afghanistan is a clear indication & the ongoing terrorism in Pakistan is India sponsored. Pakistanis are never obsessed by Indians in fact its the other way round. Pakistan bashing is an effective tool in the Indian politics. India bashing is never used in Pakistani politics. One is called a patriotic Indian only when he has something negative to say about Pakistan. Mr Singh’s recent book is a prime example of pakistan phobia amoungst Indians & this phobia has a history behind it. I have recently noticed that there is more news about Pakistan in Indian media than about India itself.

        The full name of Orangi is Orangi Town. I have lived in Orangi Town for a brief period of time & its not a slum. I wonder why Danny Boyle didnt shoot ‘slum dog millionaire’ in Orangi Town. The inhabitants of Orangi Town are patriot Pakistanis most of whose grandparents came from Bihar. Tell me if I am wrong but usually people leave a worst place for a better place. So leaving a nice place like Bihar to live in slums in Karachi doesnt make sense.

        1971 was a tragedy & shouldnt have allowed to happen but it is difficult logistically to support a war when the other wing of the country which is so far apart & a neighbor 7 times your size hell bent on destroying you. It wouldnt have happened if India hadnt fuelled the rebellion. Who is obsessed by who here?

        Pakistan’s defence policy has always been to deter any attacks & not to offence. It keeps & maintains quite well a minimum deterrence level which is a must for peace in the region. Pakistan does not aspire to dominate militarily, it is put in a position by Bharat where its not left with any option but to spend on defence to maintain deterrence. Whos obsessed from whom here?

        Sal/Rajk: Have you guys ever thought despite India being so big in size hasnt been able to dominate the region because Pakistan hasnt surrendered to its bullying and never will. So if the Indian government is so sure that Pakistan has anti-Indian elements, the Indian government is so powerful, it has the backing of the superpowers, & Pakistan is such a peice of cake then why doesnt it just take over it & resolve its problem. All Indian militay will need are a few Sunny Deols & Amitab Bachans to get rid of this problem. Have you ever wondered? The truth is that it cannot do so. Its government lies to its people about its own strength & about Pakistan to get votes but doesnt take any action because they know they will get their backsides kicked by the Pakistani military & the Pakistani nation.

        We dont NEED to be obsessed with Hindustan because we have ruled Hindustan (Persian word) for 600-1000 years & we have seen the glory but the people of Bharat have yet to run things & run them well to prove they can run things. In 1947 the congress was quite looking forward to take revenge for those 1000 years once the british were out but that wasnt allowed to happen & Pakistan was formed. This is the reason why India has never accepted Pakistan & probably never will. Chankyas (Ashoka’s advisor) doctrine says to treat your neighbors as enemies & your neighbor’s neighbor as your friend.

        Aik dafa hakumat ki hay…dobara kar lain gay…mauqa bhi hay, dastoor bhi aur humain tajarba bhi hay…

        Pakistan Zindabad!


      • Largest Slum in Asia being in Pakistan is the lie of the century.

        Ignoring the stark nakedness of poverty seen on the streets of bombay where people take to water pipes or sidewalks to sleep on, is nothing short of selective amnesia.

        Hey Indians do a complete research before you post anything here.


  11. Indians are going to reap what they sowed …lol lol lol lol ..this one is my favorite !


    • Only time will tell this sir… Lets wait & watch .. .Jinnah’s great dream of one muslim nation is already shattered in 1971( actully it is spared by 1 year of mountbatton’s prediction that east paki..will break in 25 years it actully broke in 24 years) ..
      These forums are not making sense .. time will only tell .. who reaped what and who sowed what.. Pakistan is just now realizing what they sowed ..


      • @Shabbir

        India has broken once in 1947 and it’s going to happen again!!


      • Shabbir,

        The dream of one muslims nation hasn’t shattered yet. We haven’t FULLY achieved it.

        We muslims are ideologically one nation. We formed Pakistan but we haven’t formed the UNION of ALL Muslim states. Pakistan is the first step towards that goal.

        Don’t worry about Bangladesh. From the day one idea of having two Muslim states was adhered to by Muslim league.

        We didn’t even fail Bangladesh. Why? Because it was ONLY India that was behind the insurgency their. So, to sum up, we lost Bangladesh due to Indian shenanigans not because of Islam.


  12. Right now there is a bloody revolution going on in Pakistan, my friend. We should think about ourselves at this moment.

    A History of Clandestine Contacts between Pakistan & Israel:
    http://next-world-war.blogspot.com/2009/10/pakistan-and-israel.html


  13. another anti india article written by a jelous paki.

    thx we r flattered. but u guys must think about yourself. ur india-obsession might kill u


    • sal/Nikhil
      I think ur media/politicians/RAW Pakistani obsession will take u all down!


      • our media is obsessed with pak-originated terror. But u guys are obsessed with india.


      • @ Sal
        son ur presence here on this forum shows who is obsessed with whom. I think feeling proud about being a gay n faggot is right way for you to b flattered…

        I guess Emperor.Babur said it well “nach meri bul bul” something more to add to ur flatering & to obsessed about…


  14. @sal
    I don’t even expect much from ur “FREE” media which is owned by politicians or there relatives!

    All ur media/politicians are good in is “propaganda”… just like TOI “sources” told them ‘baitullah mehsud is an ISI agent’….WOW…ISI was paying BM to attack Pakistani security officials all over the country!



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