Geo-Strategic Chessboard: War Between India and China?

October 17, 2009

Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya | Global Research

Since 1947, India has not fully pledged itself to any camp or global pole during the Cold War and as a result was a founding member of the Non-Aligned Movement (N.A.M.). Since the post-Cold War era that position has eroded. New Delhi has been gradually moving away from its traditional position, relationships, and policies in the international arena for over a decade.

India has been vied for as an ally in the “Great Game” that is underway, once again. This round of the “Great Game” is, however, being played under a far broader spectrum than the one played between Britain and Czarist Russia. In question is the Indian power relationship with two geo-political entities: the first is the “Periphery” and the second is “Eurasia.”

The Periphery and Eurasia: Vying for India on a Geo-Strategic Chessboard

Physical geography alone does not form or carve or determine geographic entities. The activity of people also is of critical importance to this process. Geographic units, from blocs and countries to regions, must be understood as a product of people interacting in socio-economic and political terms. The geographic entities that are subject herein are social constructions. In this conceptual context, Eurasia itself can be defined as a geo-political player and entity.

In a physical sense, Eurasia as a geographic landmass and spatial entity is neutral, just as are other geographic regions or units, and carries no meaning or value(s). Eurasia in socio-political terms as an active player, however, is altogether different. Herein, it is this active and politically organized Eurasia that is a product of the anti-hegemonic cooperation of Russia, China, and Iran against the status quo global order of the Periphery that is the Eurasia being addressed.

The Periphery is a collective term for those nations who are either geographically located on the margins of the Eurasian landmass or altogether geographically outside of the Eurasian landmass. This grouping or categorization of geo-political players when described are namely the U.S., the E.U., and Japan. In almost organic terms these players at the broader level strive to penetrate and consume Eurasia. This objective is so because of the socio-economic organization and political mechanisms (all of which serve elitist interests) of the Periphery. Aside from the U.S., the E.U., and Japan, the Periphery includes Australia, Canada, South Korea, Singapore, and Israel.

It is in this tugging match that India is centred. It is also in this geo-strategic bout that India has adopted a pragmatic policy of open opportunism. Yet, New Delhi has also been steadily moving towards a stance favouring the Periphery against Eurasia.

India’s historically warm relationship with Iran has been tainted because of negotiations with the U.S. and E.U. and New Delhi’s relationship with China appears cordial on the surface, but it is fragile and double-edged. Although Russia and India maintain cooperation in regards to the purchase of Russian military hardware by India, this relationship too is in question regardless of continued Russian weapons supplies.

State policy, in turn influenced or controlled by local elites, is also pivotal to the formation of the larger geographic entities being addressed. The ruling circles and elites of India are pragmatic opportunists and their is no question in this. This characteristic, however, is a trademark of almost all elitist circles and is not unique to Indian elites alone. The position of the Indian elites, however, is noteworthy because they can flex their muscles and they can play both sides.

New Delhi Caught between Alliances?

As stated, New Delhi has been walking a pragmatic path between the emerging Eurasian pole and between the more established Peripheral pole. The Eurasian pole was originally formed out of a reluctant necessity for survival against the thrust of the Periphery by Moscow. As the Russian-initiated Eurasian-based alliance gains global momentum it is also working to cultivate an end to Eurasian rivalries.

Since 2003, the lines of cooperation with the U.S., Britain, Germany, and France have been shifting and continuously restudied by Moscow, Beijing, Tehran, and their other allies, such as Kazakhstan, Belarus, and Tajikistan. The U.S., Britain, Germany, France and their shared proxies, NATO and the European Union, have been trying to obstruct the solidification of a united Eurasian entity. This is where India is key.

A factor that has obstructed Eurasian cooperation, with the inclusion of India, is the mutual suspicions of the Eurasians and, in general terms, their underlying resource rivalries. Due to these factors, the Eurasians appeared to be working together and alternatively to be keeping the lines of cooperation open with both the Periphery.  A case in standing of this schizophrenic policy is what was once called the “Paris-Berlin-Moscow Axis” that clasped Russia on one side and France and Germany on the other. This Paris-Berlin-Moscow Axis flexed its muscles in international relations and at the U.N. during the Anglo-American march to war against Iraq in 2003.

India and the Encirclement of China

New Delhi is not a constituent of the Periphery. Nor does India fully trust the nations of the Periphery. India does,, however, appear to favour the Periphery. This can be attributed to the demographic nature of global resource competitions and long-standing Sino-Indian cleavages and tensions. The tensions and cleavages between China and India have also been capitalized on by the Periphery just as the Sino-Soviet split was by Henry Kissinger during the Cold War to keep China and the Soviet Union divided.

Due to tensions with China the Indian ruling establishment still holds onto a vision about a showdown with the Chinese. Both states are demographic dinosaurs and are competing between themselves and with the status quo Peripheral Powers for resources. Despite the fact that it is the nations of the Periphery that are disproportionately exploiting a far larger share of global resources, in the eyes of many in New Delhi the perception is that it is far easier to reduce the effect of global resource competitions by working to eliminate China rather than competing with the Periphery. It is these two reasons that are the basis for the formation of Indian animosity to Beijing.

An encircling military ring that involves India has been created around China. New Delhi has been involved in the framework of military cooperation with the Periphery aimed at China. Under this framework, India has joined Japan, the U.S., and Australia in forming a de facto “Quadrilateral Coalition” to neutralize China through the establishment of a ring of containment that could see a naval blockade form in the event of a war around the borders of China. [1]

In a war between China and an outside power, cutting off Chinese energy supplies would be central to defeating Beijing. Without any fuel the military hardware of the People’s Liberation Army would be rendered useless. It is from this standpoint that India is building its naval strength and cooperating militarily in the Indian Ocean and the Pacific with the Periphery. It is also with Chinese energy supplies, Indian naval expansion, and the encirclement of China in mind that the Indian military has prepared to introduce, by 2014, what it calls “Indigenous Aircraft Carriers” (IACs), each with with two takeoff runways and one landing strip for up to 30 military aircraft. [2]

China, as well as Iran, also has a direct border with NATO-garrisoned Afghanistan, which can be used as a military hub against the more vulnerable western flank of China. In this regard, the massive American-led NATO military build-up in Afghanistan is monitored with the utmost suspicion by Beijing and Tehran. In many senses, the Periphery is moving or pushing inwards towards the heart of Eurasia. The encirclement of China also parallels the rings of military alliances and bases created around Russia and around Iran. China also faces the threat of a missile shield project in East Asia just as the European core of Russia faces one in Eastern Europe and Iran faces one via such countries as the Arab states of the Persian Gulf, Israel, and Turkey in the Middle East.

Playing all sides to get New Delhi its Place in the Sun?

The 2006 meetings between George W. Bush Jr. and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, including the Indo-U.S. nuclear cooperation agreement, are examples of the “divide and conquer” game the White House and its allies are playing. India is not passive in this game and is an active player too. The trilateral summits held between Russia, China, and India represent the opposite push to bring India fully into the Eurasian coalition of Moscow and Beijing. The U.S. has also been trying to obstruct the creation of a trans-Asian energy grid in Asia or a trans-Eurasian energy grid that would involve both sections of Europe and Asia within a single framework. One of these projects is the Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline and another is the building of pipelines from the former Soviet Union to China.

Moreover, India has nurtured military ties with Russia, China, and Iran on one hand and the U.S., NATO, Australia, Israel, and Japan on the other hand. This is evident from the joint naval exercises held in April, 2007 between India and China off Qingdao and the joint Indian, U.S., and Japanese trilateral military exercise in the Pacific Ocean. [3] Yet, India has not been neutral. India has also upgraded its missile arsenal so that it can target deeper into Chinese territory.

All in all, New Delhi has tilted in favour of the Periphery. At first glance, this is reflected by the fact that India is the only Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) observer member that has not applied for full membership within the Eurasian bloc and through New Delhi’s growing ties with NATO. India’s course also became clearer after an important trilateral conference between Russia, China, and India in 2007 that saw India diplomatically refuse Chinese and Russian demands to rebut America and reject full cooperation. In this regard, Indian officials have said that they do not want to compromise their strategic flexibility. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India has also degenerated the situation further and expand the rift between India on one side and Russia, Iran, and China on the other.

An Expanded Missile Arsenal for India

New Delhi has also been working to upgrade its military capabilities to match those of the U.S., Russia, and China. The process involves the possession of inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM), submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM), and ballistic missile defence (BMD) capabilities. The Times of India reported on May 13, 2008 that Indian military scientists predicted that India would posses all three capabilities by 2010 or 2011:

By 2010-2011, India hopes to gatecrash into a very exclusive club of countries, which have both ICBMs (intercontinental ballistic missiles) and SLBMs (submarine-launched ballistic missiles) as well as BMD (ballistic missile defence) capabilities.

Only the US and Russia strictly qualify for this club as of now, if all the three capabilities — ICBM, SLBM and BMD — are taken together, with countries like China not too far behind.

Top defence scientists, on the sidelines of the annual DRDO awards on Monday, told TOI [Times of India] they were quite confident India would have ICBMs and SLBMs, even though their strike ranges would be much lesser than American, Russian or Chinese missiles, as also a functional BMD system soon after the turn of this decade. [4]

The nature of such a military build-up must be questioned. Who is it aimed at and what are its primary objectives? Are these capabilities meant to act as a deterrence or are they part of something more? These are important questions.

The United States Directly Threatens China

The answer to the Indian military build-up is embodied in two parts. One element to this answer is the military dogma of the U.S. towards China. The U.S. attitude is clarified in a May 2008 interview given to the Voice of America by Admiral Timothy J. Keating after a new Chinese submarine base was discovered, which was called a threat to U.S. interests in Asia. Admiral Keating is the American flag officer comanding U.S. forces in East Asia and the Pacific under United States Pacific Command (USPACOM), one of the highest military posts in the U.S. military.

Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported on May 12, 2008:

China’s new underground nuclear submarine base close to vital sea lanes in Southeast Asia has raised US concerns, with experts calling for a shoring up of alliances in the region to check Beijing’s growing military clout.

The base’s existence on the southern tip of Hainan Island was confirmed for the first time by high resolution satellite images, according to Jane’s Intelligence Review, a respected defence periodical, this month.

It could hold up to 20 submarines, including a new type of nuclear ballistic missile submarine, and future Chinese aircraft carrier battle groups, posing a challenge to longstanding US military dominance in Asia.

China should not pursue such “high-end military options,” warned Admiral Timothy Keating, the top commander of US forces in Asia, in an interview with the Voice of America last week.

He underlined America’s “firm intention” not to abandon its dominating military role in the Pacific and told Beijing it would face “sure defeat” if it took on the United States militarily.


He said Washington should “tighten” its alliances in Asia to check China’s growing military might and develop “interoperability” capabilities among allies such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines and Singapore, as well as Indonesia and Malaysia.

James Lyons, an ex-commander of the US Pacific Fleet, said the United States needed to reestablish high-level military ties with the Philippines as part of efforts to enhance US deterrence in the wake of China’s naval expansion.

He said “operational tactics” used against the former Soviet Union during the Cold War should be applied against China.

He suggested US leasing a squadron of F-16 fighter jets and navy vessels to the Philippines, where Washington once had naval and air bases, as part of the deterrence strategy.

“We don’t need a permanent base but we need access,” Lyons said, suggesting also that Japan play a more “meaningful” role in protecting critical sea lanes in the region.

“Again the Soviets, we raised that deterrence equation and we won the war without firing a shot basically … there is no cheap way out and we have to improve our posture in the Western Pacific along with our allies,” he said.

Richard Fisher, an expert of China military affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, a US think tank, expected US confrontation with China as Beijing modernized its nuclear ballistic missile submarines, referred to in military jargon as SSBNs. [5]

What James Lyon suggests as an ex-military officier about using Japan as a counter-balance against China is clearly being applied to other nations in Asia. In addition, without India using Japan or a whole coalition of other Asian states carries far less weight against China, especially one supported by Russia. India is clearly key in the U.S. geo-strategy for dealing with China and in general for Eurasia.

The Hindustani Wild Card: India as a Eurasian Wedge against China?

To obstruct the unification of Russia, Iran, and China the Bush Jr. Administration in 2004 intensified the venture of using India as a Eurasian wedge or counter-weight to China. The U.S. aim is to eventually undermine the coalition between Russia, China, and Iran by using India or alternatively to use India as a spearhead against the Chinese. This latter tactic would be similar to the strategy used by the U.S. government in relation to Iraq and Iran, which resulted in the Iraq-Iran War in 1980.

In this Iraq-Iran War model both Baghdad and Tehran were seen as enemies by U.S. strategists and the aim was to get both Middle Eastern republics to neutralize one another. Henry Kissinger summed this U.S. policy by saying the point was for both the Iraqi and Iranian sides to destroy one another. The same scenario could happen and be applied to India and China. The realization of this confrontational project has already been announced by the Indian military. What has long been thought has become public and that is that the Indian military has been preparing for war against Beijing. This is the second element to the question about the Indian military build-up.

The Hindustan Times reported on March 26, 2009:

The Indian military fears a [sic] ‘Chinese aggression’ in less than a decade. A secret exercise, called ‘Divine Matrix’, by the army’s military operations directorate has visualised a war scenario with the nuclear-armed neighbour before 2017.

“A misadventure by China is very much within the realm of possibility with Beijing trying to position itself as the only power in the region. There will be no nuclear warfare but a short, swift war that could have menacing consequences for India,” said an army officer, who was part of the three-day war games that ended on Wednesday.

In the military’s assessment, based on a six-month study of various scenarios before the war games, China would rely on information warfare (IW) to bring India down on its knees before launching an offensive.

The war games saw generals raising concerns about the IW battalions of the People’s Liberation Army carrying out hacker attacks for military espionage, intelligence collection, paralysing communication systems, compromising airport security, inflicting damage on the banking system and disabling power grids. “We need to spend more on developing information warfare capability,” he said.

The war games dispelled the  notion that China would take at least one season (one year) for a substantial military build-up across India’s northeastern frontiers. “The Tibetan infrastructure has been improved considerably.  The PLA can now launch an assault very quickly, without any warning, the officer said.

The military believes that China would have swamped Tibet with sweeping demographic changes in the medium term. For the purposes of Divine Matrix, China would call Dalai Lama for rapprochement and neutralise him. The top brass also brainstormed over India’s options in case Pakistan joined the war to. Another apprehension was that Myanmar and Bangladesh would align with China in the future geostrategic environment. [6]

Although the materialization of a war against China is not a guaranteed event, war preparations are being made against the Chinese. The disturbances within the borders of China in Xinjiang and Tibet and in Myanmar (Burma), which is important to Chinese energy security, that are so widely advertised in the name of democracy and self-determination in the U.S. and E.U. are part of an effort to destabilize and weaken China. It is also in this context that India is involved with operations, such as supporting the Tibetan government-in-exile of the Dahali Lama, that have been destabilizing China.

The Australian military has also announced it is expanding its military in preparation for a forecast major war in the Asia-Pacific region. [7] Japan has also been expanding its military, while Tokyo has been preparing itself to join a NATO-like sister-alliance in the Asia-Pacific that would include Australia, the U.S., and South Korea and be directed against China, Russia, and North Korea. [8] Myanmar and Laos can be targeted too by this military build-up and NATO-like alliance as can the other Southeast Asian states of Indo-China, specifically Vietnam and Cambodia, if they change their policies.

The Strategic Ties of New Delhi and Tel Aviv: Indo-Israeli Military and Space Cooperation

On January 21, 2008 a new chapter in Indo-Israeli strategic cooperation was unveiled; India launched a Israeli spy satellite, known as TecSAR (TechSAR) or Polaris, into space via an Indian space rocket at the Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, Andhra Padesh. [9] The Israeli satellite was bragged to be mainly aimed against Iran by Israeli sources. [10] Israel’s spy satellite launched by India has greatly enhances Israel’s intelligence-gathering capabilities against Iran, Syria, and Lebanon.

The satellite launch by New Delhi has revealed that the Indian government has little reservations in assisting in any Israeli or Anglo-American military ventures in the Middle East against Iran and its allies. Tehran immediately voiced its strong and official disapproval to India for aiding Israeli military objectives against Iran’s national security. The Israeli satellite launch was delayed several times. The Jerusalem Post and one of its noted reporters, Yaakov Katz, published an article that claimed that the delayed space launch of the Israeli satellite was a result of strong Iranian pressure on the Indian government. [11]

Politicians in India opposed to Indo-Israeli military and space cooperation denounced the Indian government’s attempts to present the launch as merely “business as usual” by hiding the military implications and objectives behind an act with underlying hostile intentions against Iran. The Indian government officially argued to the Indian people that the satellite launch was just a commercial transaction between Tel Aviv and New Delhi, but the military implications of the deal reveal that India is no longer neutral in regards to Tehran. The fact that the Israel spy satellite has been described by Tel Aviv as a means to confront Tehran and Damascus  (officially described as “enemy states”) is an omission in itself that New Delhi is knowingly an accomplice to hostile acts against Iran and Syria.

The satellite launch was shrouded in complete secrecy by the Indian government. The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) which had always announced all its space launches as a symbol of national pride kept silent for the Israeli satellite launch. Large numbers of different Indian groups and people across India condemned the secrecy behind the mission and cited it as a sign of guilty by the Indian government. People’s Democracy, the official mouth piece of the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CP-M), complained that the citizens of India had to learn about the details of the launch from Israeli news sources. [12]

The Israeli spy satellite was built by Israel Aerospace Industries, which has major business interests in regards to India. On February 18, 2008 Israel Aerospace Industries, and the Tata Group signed a corporate agreement with Israel Aerospace to cooperate and jointly develop military hardware and products through a memorandum of understanding. [13] Like a tell-tale sign this agreement was announced less than a month after the launch of the Israeli spy satellite built by Israel Aerospace Industries. The Tata Group and its companies also have corporate agreements with Boeing, Sikorsky Aircraft, and the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS), which are all competing against Russian arms manufacturers.

Indian cooperation with Israel extends all the way into the realm of nuclear politics and policy. On September 17, 2008 at the headquarters of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in Vienna a vote was almost unanimously cast for a IAEA resolution urging all Middle Eastern states to abandon making nuclear bombs. In a case of irony, the only state that voted against the IAEA resolution was Israel, which accuses Iran and Syria of pursuing nuclear weapons. Tel Aviv voted against the IAEA resolution, while Tehran and Damascus voted for the it and the U.S., Canada, Georgia, and India all in support of Israel abstained.

New Delhi Deepens ties with the U.S., NATO, and Israel

In military terms, there is a real strategic “American-Indian-Israeli Axis.” New Delhi’s strategic ties with the U.S., NATO, and Israel have been deepening. The strategic axis formed by the U.S., India, and Israel has also been denounced by various political parties and figures across the political landscape of India.

Firstly, the geo-strategic rationale for an alliance between the U.S. and India is the encirclement or containment of the People’s  Republic of China. The other rationale or intentions of such cooperation are the neutralization of Russia as a player in Central Asia and the securing of energy resources for both the U.S. and India. In this project, the U.S. sees India as a natural counter-weight to China. The U.S. also has used India in its objective of trying to isolate Iran.

In regards to Tel Aviv, Israel sees India as part of a broader periphery. This broader or so-called “new periphery” was imagined and utilized as a basis of geo-strategy by Tel Aviv after 1979 when the “old periphery” that included Iran, which was one of Israel’s closest allies, buckled and collapsed with the 1979 Iranian Revolution. [14] In this context, Israel’s “new periphery” has been conceptualized against both the Arab World and Iran (or compounded as the Arabo-Iranian World). This is why the Israeli relationships with India, Georgia, the Republic of Azerbaijan, and Turkey are important, and in some cases full fledged alliances. [15]

Likewise NATO and India also have shared interests in Afghanistan and Central Asia, which India sees as part of its own periphery or “near abroad.” These shared interests and the mutual animosity to Chinese energy interests in Central Asia has brought India and NATO, led by the U.S., into the same camp. NATO also sees India in its strategy to become a global military alliance. In addition, dealing with Pakistan is also another shared commonality between NATO and India.

The Project for “Greater South Asia” and Indian Ambitions in its “Near Abroad”

As Hindu means everything beyond the Indus and Hindustan the “land beyond the Indus” in ancient Iranian, the word “Industan” can be used to talk about the land and basin around the Indus River. Hereon, this term will be used to refer to the geographic area adjacent the Indus to India’s western flank. [16] This area includes Pakistan and can be extended to include Afghanistan and the former Soviet republics of Central Asia. Although Industan may not be exactly an accurate definition for the area beyond Pakistan, Industan still fits well, especially in light of Indian geo-political thinking. That is why the term will be used.

Industan, is part of India’s “near abroad” or periphery, and in a sense even a part of an expanded periphery that emerged with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It is with this in mind that India established its first military base, at Ayni, on foreign soil in Tajikistan. [17] The converging interests of the U.S. and India are clear in the U.S. State Departments re-definition of Central Asia as a part of “Greater South Asia.” Greater South Asia is the conceptualization of Central Asia as a region within South Asia, which is synonymous with the Indian sub-continent. The concept of Greater South Asia is part of the project to bring the former Soviet republics of Central Asia into the orbits of the U.S. through cooperation with India, as a regional gendarme.

Turning to Pakistan, India has a shared interests with the U.S. and NATO in the subjection of Pakistan. Pakistan would cease to be a client state of the U.S. or a manageable state, because of a likely revolution that would occur in the scenario of a broader war in the Middle East against Iran or a far larger Eurasian war involving China and Russia. Nuclear weapons in the hands of such a revolutionary government in Islamabad would be a threat to Indian national security, NATO operations in Afghanistan, and Israel. It is in the shared interests of the U.S., NATO, Israel, and India to neutralize such a strategic and tactical threat from emerging in Pakistan. This is why NATO has underpinned the objective of balkanizing Pakistan and why the U.S. has talked about taking over Pakistani nuclear facilities via the U.S. military. The subjection of Pakistan is also territorially and militarily to the advantage of New Delhi, because it would eliminate a rival and allow India to gain territory that in the view of many Indians was lost with the partition of India in 1947.

The Naval build-up in the Indian Ocean and the Geo-Politics of the Sri Lankan Civil War

To the southern borders of Eurasia is the Indian Ocean. The Indian Ocean is the scene of major international rivalries and competition(s). Sri Lanka is also a front in these rivalries. It is in this context that India is part of a major naval build-up running from the coastline of East Africa and the Arabian Sea to the waves of Oceania. Aside from the fleets of the U.S. and its NATO allies that have large presences in the Indian Ocean, the naval fleets of Iran, India, China, Japan, and Australia are also all being expanded in league with this trend of militarization. Also, India and China are working to release large nuclear submarine fleets into the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean. The naval encirclement of Eurasia and the naval expansion of China are also reasons why U.S. Navy ships have been repeatedly caught violating Chinese waters and illegally surveying Chinese territory. [18]

The water around the Arabian Peninsula all the way around from the Persian Gulf, the Gulf of Oman, and the Gulf of Aden to the Red Sea (Arabian Gulf) carries large fleets of ships either belonging to the U.S., NATO, or their allies. At any point the U.S. and its allies can stop international shipping in these waters. The problem of piracy in these waters is very closely linked to their militarization and is a justification for militarization. This is one of the reasons that the Gulf of Aden and the waters off the Horn of Africa, where Somalia is located, have seen the deployment of the naval forces of Russia, China, and Iran as a strategically symmetric move. [19]

It should be noted that relations between Sri Lanka and India started to unravel in 2009. The Sri Lankan government has accused the Indian government of supporting the Tamil Tigers drive to create a Tamil state by dividing Sri Lanka. Much of this has to do with the geo-strategic struggle between the Periphery and Eurasia in the Indian Ocean.

In this regard, India is not only working against Chinese interests in the Indian Ocean, but it is also actively cooperating with the U.S. and its allies. In the scenario of a conflict between Eurasia and the Periphery or between China and India the maritime route that passes by Sri Lanka would be vital to the Chinese military and Chinese energy security. For this reason Sri Lanka has joined the SCO as a “dialogue partner” under the protective umbrella of Russia, China, and their allies. Not only has Sri Lanka joined the SCO, but it also hosts a Chinese port in a pivotal point in the Indian Ocean and near the borders of India that has put Colombo at odds with New Delhi.

Arms Manufacturer and Nuclear Rivalry in India

Since the end of the Cold War there has been a drive to push out Russian arms manufacturers out of the Indian market by Anglo-American, Franco-German, and Israeli military contractors. France and Israel have also been traditionally the second and third largest weapon sources for India after Russia. Russian manufacturers have been competing fiercely against military manufactures based in France, Germany, Israel, Britain, and the U.S. to remain as New Delhi’s top arms suppliers.

In addition, the elites in New Delhi have been putting their weight behind Russia’s rivals in India. India has become one of the most significant markets for Israeli military hardware and has replaced the void left to Israeli weapons exporters by the loss of the South African arms market that was caused by the collapse of Apartheid in 1993. Additionally, Israel has moved on to replace France as the second largest provider of military hardware to India. [20] This is while France in 2006 and 2008 has made headway in nuclear cooperation agreements with India, following the 2005 Indo-U.S. nuclear deal. [21]

India-Brazil-South Africa (IBSA): “Superalignment” or “Counter-Alignment?”

In addition, the U.S. is trying to use the India-Brazil-South Africa (IBSA) Dialogue Forum, a loose trilateral alliance of go-between states, against China, Venezuela (and its Latin American bloc that can be called the Bolivarian Bloc), Russia, and Iran. In reality and simplistic terms the IBSA powers are rising, second tier global players. They originally appeared to be engaging in a policy of “superalignment,” the cultivation of strategic relations with all major powers and blocs, as opposed to “counter-alignment.” A global web of alliances, counter-alliances, cross-cutting, and intersecting alliances are beginning to come into view, just like the environment in Europe and the Middle East on the eve of the First World War.

Despite the fact that Italy was a member of the Triple Alliance, along with Germany and the Austro-Hungarians, it decided to side with the Triple Entente after secret negotiations and promises that were never honoured by Britain and France. There are circles in Moscow, Beijing, and Tehran that believe that India could act treacherously just as Italy did by not honouring its obligations to its allies Vienna and Berlin. These suspicions also see this as a possibility even if India entered the SCO as a full member and joined the Chinese-Russian-Iranian coalition in Eurasia.

In the frankest words, India, Brazil, and the Republic of South Africa are benefiting from the compounded friction between the U.S., France, Britain, Germany, China, Iran, Venezuela, and Russia. To clarify, the reason that this friction is best described as compounded is because the Anglo-American alliance and the Franco-German entente work as two separate sub-units and sometimes align with the interests of opposing powers. This is also true about cooperation between Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China. In Eurasia, Russia and Iran sometimes work as a pair, while Russia and China or China and Iran do so at other times. This trend in regards to the Eurasians, however, is changing as the cohesion between Russia, China, and Iran increases.

This behaviour is observable in the positions of both India and Brazil on Kosovar Independence. Both the foreign ministers of India and Brazil, Celso Amorim and Pranab Mukherjee, made a joint statement in Brasilia about the declaration of independence by Kosovo by announcing that India and Brazil were studying its legal ramifications under a wait-and-see policy of the “evolving situation” as Pranab Mukherjee called it. [22]

The Case of Elitism: Where the Indian Elites Stand

On April 2, 2009 the Group of Twenty (G-20) met in London in regards to the global economy and declared that New Delhi would have a bigger role in the global economy. The question about “India’s place in the sun” that is often mentioned in international studies about its emerging status as a global power is not really about India as a nation-state or even the interests of its general population, but is really a question about the position of its ruling and economic classes or its elites (a small minority that make decisions on behalf of the majority) and their place within the global power structure and the international elitist compact that is forming through neo-liberal globalization.

Part and parcel of this enterprise is what appears to be India’s demands for a greater role, or share, for its elites in the global economy through some form or another of expanded interlocking directorships. Interlocking directorships is a term used to describe when the members of the board of directors or managing body of one corporation also serve as members of the board of directors or managing body of other corporation. This is very frequent amongst elitist circles and a way for them to maintain a monopoly on their power. It is these interlocking directorships that are uniting global elites and the impetus for global amalgamation.

India has always had indigenous elites, who in numerous cases worked hand in glove with the British during the period of the British Raj. Starting from the colonial period, borrowing from a term used by the Canadian political economist Wallace Clement, most the Indian indigenous elites became “comprador elites.” Comprador elites are any elite groups that represent or manage the interests of  “parasite elites” or foreign elites, which in the case of the British Raj would have been the British elites. A modern example of a  comprador elite would be the Indian chief executive officers (CEOs) of Indian subsidiaries of foreign-controlled corporations, such as PepsiCo India and Monsanto India.

Moving on, the British could not rule most of India without these elites and therefore cooperated with them. London made sure that the Indian elites would be fully integrated into the British Empire by involving them in the administration of India, sending them to British schools, and making them Anglophiles or lovers of all things British. Britain would also grant the Indian elites their own economic fiefdoms in return for their cooperation. The relationship was very much symbiotic and in reality the Indian elites were the biggest supporters of the British Empire and opposed Indian independence. It is only when the Indian elites were offended by London, because of the denial of their requests to have a status within the British Empire like the Dominions, such as Canada and Australia, that the Indian Independence Movement gained momentum.

With Indian independence many of the comprador elites became indigenous elites, in the sense that they were serving their own interests and no longer serving British interests in India. Yet, some comprador elites remained who served British economic interests. For a period of time after Indian independence there were tensions between the Indian indigenous elites and both the comprador elites and their parasite elite backers in London as the indigenous elites moved into the former niches of the British. This does not mean that there were not those within the indigenous elites that made agreements or compromises with the British for the post-independence period.

As time passed and the Cold War supposedly ended, the Soviet Union fell apart, neighbouring China accepted capitalism, and a push for unipolarity accelerated the different types of elites in India started cooperating even more. More specifically, the indigenous elites of India and foreign elites in the U.S. and E.U. started collaborating, with the comprador elites helping interlock the indigenous and foreign sides even more. The state of elitist modus vivandi, living together in uneasy post-independence armistice, was gradually evolving into broader cooperation. For example, in the financial sector the comprador elites, indigenous elites, and parasite elites have worked together to erode state control of the banking system that has resulted in the mushrooming and growth of private and foreign banks in India starting in the 1990s.

Enter Dr. Manmohan Singh: The Economic Origins for New Delhi’s Strategic Shift?

The Indian shift away from non-alignment and its strategic partnerships is deeply connected to the unseen regime change in New Delhi that was initiated with the restructuring of the Indian economic policy. 1991 was a year of change for India. It was also the year that President George Bush Sr. declared that the “New World Order” was beginning to emerge and also the same year as the Gulf War and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

A common denominator between 1991 and India in the late-2000s is Dr. Manmohan Singh, the current head of the Indian government. Dr. Singh received his doctorate (PhD.) as an economist from Oxford University and also attended Cambridge University. He is a former ranking officer of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in India. His positions included Deputy for India on the IMF Committee of Twenty on International Monetary Reform (1972-1974), IMF Associate (1976-1980, 1982-1985), Alternative Governor for India on the IMF Board of Governors (1982-1985), and Governor for India on the Board of Governors of the IMF (1991-1995). Several of these positions coincided with appointments within the government and national cabinet of India. This also includes the position of Dr. Singh as the Governor of the Reserve Bank of India (1982-1985).

Dr. Singh was one of the faces behind the restructuring of the Indian economy in 1991, in league with the IMF. He was appointed as the Indian Finance Minister in 1991 by Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao, a man accused with corruption, during a financial crisis that was brought about by IMF policies. India was nearly bankrupted during this period of reforms and state assets surrendered to domestic and foreign private investors. The economic policies of establishing a truly self-sufficiently Indian economy were abandoned and privatization became wide spread. Economic liberalization pushed aside the long-term goals of eliminating poverty in India and providing high standards of living. The Indian agricultural sector was also infected by foreign multi-national corporations through the so-called “Green Revolution.”

Before being appointed to the post of Indian Finance Minister, Dr. Singh was decisive in creating the financial crisis in India through coordination with the IMF. The policies of Dr. Singh by design also left India without enough reserves to meet its financial commitments. India was also deprived of the means to improve its economy by IMF policies The origins of these policies became obvious when Indian civil servants starting complaining of sloppy, American-style, and non-British spelling, writing, and grammar in Indian government finance documents and papers. As a result Indian national assets and wealth were siphoned off and foreign control, including that of the Bank of England, of Indian finances began. 1996 spelled the death of the Rao Administration in India because of the backlash of economic liberalization and the unpopularity of the government.

With the economic shifts of 1991 began the road down the path to political shift. On May 22, 2004 the IMF’s man in New Delhi, Dr. Singh,  returned to office to became the Prime Minister of India. This time political reforms including turning India’s back on the Non-Alignment Movement (N.A.M.), Iran at the IAEA, and Russia’s aim to realize the Primakov Doctrine were on the table.

India and the Manufactured “Clash of Civilizations” in Eurasia

In many Indian circles the colonial bonds with London are still strong and there are views that New Delhi, or at least the Indian elites, are natural members of the Anglo-American establishment. There is also a taint of racial theory attached to these views with links to the caste system and the Indian elite’s Aryan self-concepts. Huntington’s “Clash of Civilizations” notion and Mackinder’s geo-strategic population model are factors behind these views too. Resource competition, demographics, and economic competition are seen as fuel that will inevitably draw India and China into a clash for supremacy in Asia.

Is it primarily because of geography, amongst other factors, that Indian Civilization (labeled as Hindu Civilization in regards to Huntington’s model) is said to have a conflicting relationship or affiliation with Chinese Civilization (labeled as Sinic Civilization by Huntington’s model) and Islamic Civilization? This theory is short-sighted; if true where are the centuries of fighting between Chinese and Indian civilization? For the most part both lived in peace. The same applied to Islamic Civilization.

A clash is not the natural ends of interaction between different civilizations or societies. Interaction is always based initially on trade and it is the form of economic trade and the aims of either party that can result in a clash. Foreign powers that utilize a “Clash of Civilizations” scheme do so because of the economy of control. A mere reading of Anglo-American strategic doctrine and observations of Anglo-American practices brings this to light.

A historical look will prove this to be wrong and actually illustrates that Indian Civilization really overlaps with both Islamic Civilization and Chinese Civilization. Moreover, it is wrong to categorize the conflict between Pakistan and India as a conflict between all Muslims and the nation-state of India or even any of the internal fighting amongst Muslims and non-Muslims in India. Vedicists (one of the proper names for Hindus) and Muslims, as well as several other religions lived together in relative peace until the the start of British involvement in India. [23] The animosity between Pakistan and India is a synthetic construct where local elites and foreign powers worked together, not only to divide territory, but to control local groups that have lived together for hundreds of years by alienating them from one another.

Why a “Clash of Civilizations” in Eurasia?

By extension of the utilization of the “Clash of Civilizations” notion, which predates Samuel P. Huntington, India and Vedicism are depicted as enemies by the Pakistani elites as a means of domestic distraction and to direct internal tensions about social inequality and injustice towards an outside source. The outside enemy, the “other,” has always been used domestically to distract subject populations by local leaders. In the case of the Indian sub-continent certain native circles have jointly invested in continuing the British policy of localized conflict as a means of monopoly.

In an over simplistic understanding, even if one were to use Huntingon’s model to explain who benefits from civilizational conflict because of global civilizational rivalry, it would have to be the civilization with the most relationships due to the fact that it has the most rivals to put down. In relation to trade a civilization with the most relationships would also be in a position to initiate the most clashes because it can afford to burn some of its bridges (or cut ties) and is in a position to initiate clashes between other civilizations.

Under a system of cooperation and fair-trade conflict of a grand scale would not happen, but under a competitive international system pushing for monopoly this is a direction being taken by the status quo. This is where critics of global capitalism lament about the unnatural nature of capitalism. This system, however, is not a system of capitalism. It is fitting to apply a new term at this point: ubercapitalism. Ubercapitalism is a system where the framework of regulation, taxation, and law are controlled and directed by elites for their own benefits. In Marxist-Leninist terms the state is an agent of elite interests. Even the capitalist concept of laissez-fair commerce is violated and disregarded because the state and the business environment are controlled by these elites.

If there was fair-trade between these so-called civilizational entities there would be no need for clashes, but this by itself does not mean that there would altogether be no conflict. Ideology, faith, and hubris are also factors, but in most cases ideology and faith have been manipulated or constructed to support the economic structure and to justify conflict and hierarchy. A lack of fair-trade or control over finite resources necessitates manufactured conflict; this is the only way the players controlling wealth can retain their positions.

Despite the talk about a “Clash of Civilizations” the most natural path of social evolution is one of relative peace and cooperation. The conceptualization of Latin America, India, Israel, the so-called West, China, the Muslim countries, the Orthodox Christian countries, and the Buddhist nations as different or distinct civilizations is also a fallacy in itself and very abstract. Distinctions do exist, but they are far less than the similarities and not enough to support Huntington’s civilizational model.

New Delhi’s Trajectory: A Reversion to the British Raj?

Is reverting to the status quo of the British Raj? India has moved beyond a policy of superalignment. India’s elites believe that to achieve their place in the sun they must buy into the socio-economic and political agenda of the so-called, “Core countries” — the global financial power holders of the Periphery. India’s commitment to the Non-Alignment Movement (N.A.M.) is also dead all but in name. The foreign policy course that Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru had charted for India has been abandoned.

Internally, for the last two decades India has been colonizing itself. Communities and ethnic groups have been played agains one another. These are both cases where local and foreign elites are working hand-in-hand. The ruling elites, with the aid of the Indian government, are appropriating all forms of recourses, rights, and property from countless people to fuel the so-called economic liberalization process with no regard for their fellow citizens. Water and national assets are being privatized and virtual slave labour is, once again, being institutionalized — everything that Mahatma Gandhi and his follower worked hard to eliminate. The free trade deals being struck by the U.S. and E.U. with India are a part of this process and have been integrating India into the global economic order.

Hand-in-hand with India being part of a global economic order goes the domination of Eurasia. India is on a serious path of militarization that will lead New Delhi towards conflict with China. In such a war both Asian giants would be losers and the U.S. and its allies the real winners.

Due to their flexibility the Indian elite may still change course, but there is a clear motion to exploit and mobilize India in Eurasia against its neighbours and the major powers of Eurasia. This is the true meaning, intent, nature, and agenda behind the so-called “Clash of Civilizations” in Eurasia. The threat of a nuclear war between China and India is real in the words of the Indian military, but what is important to realize is that such a confrontation is part of a much larger series of wars or a wide struggle between the powers of Eurasia and the nations of the Periphery, led by the United States.

Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya is a Reseach Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) specializing in geopolitics and strategic issues.


[1] Indrani Bagchi, India-Japan strategic talks begin, The Times of India, March 23, 2007.

[2] India to lay keel of new aircraft carrier on Saturday, Russian News and Information Agency (RIA Novosti), February 26, 2009.

[3] Pallavi Aiyar, India to conduct naval exercises with China, The Hindu, April 12, 2007.

[4] Rajat Pandit, Going ballistic: India looks to joing elite missile club, The Times of India, May 13, 2008.

[5] China’s new naval base triggers US concerns, Agence France-Presse (AFP), May 12, 2008.

[6] Rahul Singh, Indian Army fears China attack by 2017, The Hindustan Times, March 26, 2008.

[7] Commonwealth of Australia, Defending Australia in the Asia Pacific Century: Force 2030, 2009.

[8] Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya, Global Military Alliance: Encircling Russia and China, Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), May 10, 2007.

[9] India launches Israeli satellite in boost to space business, Agence France-Presse, January 20, 2008.

[10] Yossi Melman, Satellite launch bolsters ability to spy on Tehran, Haaretz, January 21, 2008.

[11] Yaakov Katz, Iran delayed satellite launch, The Jerusalem Post, January 22, 2008.

[12] Israeli Satellite Launch: Harmful Course, People’s Democracy, vol. 32, no. 6, February 10, 2008.

[13] Sandeep Dikshit, Tata-Israel Aerospace Industries ink memorandum of understanding, The Hindu, February 18, 2008.

[14] Johan Nylander, Israel drops Indian venture under ‘US pressure,’ Agence France-Presse (AFP), July 6, 2009.

[15] Aaron S. Klieman, Israel and the World After 40 Years (Washington:Pergamon-Brassey’s International Defense Publishers, 1990), p.92, pp.168–9, p.236.

[16] Infra. n.23.

[17] Sudha Ramachandran, India makes a soft landing in Tajikistan, Asia Times, March 3, 2007.

[18] Jane Macartney, China accuses US naval ship of illegal surveying, The Times (U.K.), March 10, 2009; Chris Buckley, China says U.S. naval ship broke the law, Reuters, March 10, 2009.

[19] Atul Aneja, Iran, China will begin counter-piracy patrols, The Hindu, December 22, 2008; Russia, China conduct anti-piracy exercises in the Gulf of Aden, Russian News and Information Agency (RIA Novosti), September 18, 2009.

[20] Klieman, Israel and thr World, Op. cit.

[21] Amelia Gentleman, France and India agree on atom deal, The New York Times, February 20, 2006; India-France nuclear accord provides opening for Areva, The New York Times,September 30, 2008.

[22] Kosovo legal issues being studied: Brazil, India, Agence France-Presse (AFP), February 19, 2008; World split on Kosovo issue, Agence France-Presse (AFP), February 19, 2008.

[23] Sanatana Dharma or Vedic Dharma (Vedicism) is the proper name for Hinduism. The terms Hindu and Hinduism are misnomers, just as Mohammedan and Mohammedanism are misnomers for Muslims and Islam. The term Hindu is originally a geographic definition used by the ancient Iranians to label all the peoples living in the lands of the Indus Valley or east of the Indus River regardless of religious affinity or faith. The term Hindu was later adopted by the Arabs who conquered Sassanid Iran and then expanded towards the the Indian sub-continent. As the Altaic peoples, such as Mongolian and Turkic-speaking tribes, migrated westward in Eurasia they also adopted the term through interaction with both the Iranians and the Arabs. At this time in history and up to the rule of the Mugal Dynasty in India the term Hindu started gaining popular and recurrent usage, but was still used as an ethnographic term and not a religious identification label. The Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, and Vidicists of India were all called Hindus. It was during the colonial era that the British, who ruled India, coined the English-language term/word Hinduism and assigned the already existing and ancient Iranian term/word Hindu in 1830 to describe and designate the faiths and peoples of India belonging to Vedicism. Hindus are in reality all the people of India. The term Hindi, also used to label Indians and one of the main Indic languages, comes from Hindustani which also reflects the geographic nature and origins of the term Hindu; Hindustan means land of India and Hindustani people of India.



  1. A whole year is required to read this long and tiresome article!!

  2. India has serious disputes with all of its neighbors. Indians are in continuous effort to control the policy making process of their smaller neighbors – Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh. India has been in illegal occupation of territories historically belonging to many of its neighboring countries. I think, China is completely justified in reacting to the Indian PM’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh, which is illegally occupied by India.
    Now look at the knee-jerk reaction of stupid Indians. They are demanding from Chinese to stop their participation in the development projects in Azad (i.e. Liberated/Free) Kashmir. The rouge Indian government refuses to follow the UN resolutions on J&K that demand for a plebiscite for the Kashmiri people to decide their future. Indians are in clear and persistent violation of UN resolutions. And yet they shamelessly keep repeating their claims over Azad Kashmir. That is just an example of Hindu bigotry.

    It seems that China is getting fed up with Indian exploitations and continued Indian occupation of Chinese lands. Indians, in collaboration with extra-regional powers, have lately been busy creating trouble for China by sending the terrorists in Tibet and Xinjiang. Indians will have to pay dearly for their ever expanding mischief and use of terrorism in Chinese and Pakistani lands. Pakistan also is practically at war with India over the illegal Indian occupation of a part of the state of J&K and Indian use of terrorism against Pakistan, especially in Balochistan and FATA. India is the fountainhead of terrorism in this region.

    The Indian exploitations of international fora have already been exposed to the world community. No one really gives a damn to false Indian claims on other nations’ territories. Repeated silly claims of ‘an integral part of India’ can not and indeed do not convert others’ lands, currently illegally occupied by India, into an integral part of India. India, in fact, is an international pariah and essentially a rouge state. Indians will ultimately be humiliated and kicked out of the Chinese and Pakistani lands illegally occupied by India. Indian falsehood at global stage will pay no more dividends to Indians.

    • The name Pakistan came into a legal existance on Midnight 14th August 1947 . But the peoples of the area have been around for longer then you lot . The ountry called INDIA / Bharat has not existed for over 4000 years . Before 15 Aug 1947 it was part of the British Empire .Before 1857 part of Muslim Empire . The Hindu opted to become slaves of the White Man so that they can get rid of Muslim Rule of over 1000 years . In actual fact Pakistan is one day older then the India ( slave nation ) .

      Let me give you just one example : When the Mughal Kings were in danger of loosing to Maratha in 1750s . They asked for help from their brothern in what is now Paksitan . This area was then ruled by Ahmed Shah Abdali ( he was born in Multan in 1747 ) . He marched from Makran ( Balochistan ) to Paniput and fought and totally defeated the best of the Hindu army of Maratha .

      If you do not shut up learn start speaking with respect to Pakistan and Pakistani . History will repeat .

      Pakistan Zindabad

  3. How the hell does pakistan(which came to existence in 1947) have historical claim to Jammu and Kashmir!!
    Have you ever read the UN resolutions! Go to the UN website.Do you know that Pakistan was to fulfill the condition of FULL withdrawl from J&K before any plebiscite could take place.Did you know that till such withdrawal india was allowed to keep its forces in kashmir.


    Pakistan never withdrew so the question of India holding plebiscite did not arise.
    Did you also know that the UN resolution on Kashmir is NOT BINDING–

    .UN resolutions on Kashmir did not come under Chapter 7 of the UN charter and were, therefore, not self-enforcing. Unlike the resolutions on East Timor and Iraq, which come under that particular chapter, the Kashmir resolutions require the cooperation of both parties for implementation……[ March 2001 During his brief interaction with the media at Pakistan’s Chakala military ]

    UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan ”
    And besides there are 160 million muslims in India.Almost as much as pakistan.So pakistans claim that kashmir being muslim should be handed over to islamic pakistan is bullshit!
    Pakistan could not keep bangladesh in the name of Islam.Its own people the taliban are fighting is as anti-islamic and stooge of americans.

    Ainwa hi baat karne se kuch hasil nahi hota.
    Know the reality first!

    • Well said.Happy diwali

    • India’s claim that since Pakistan did not vacate Azad Kashmir, the UN resolutions can not be implemented is just a silly excuse that has perpetually been used by Indians to renege on their commitment at UN to let the Kashmiri people decide their own future through a plebiscite. Any sensible person would agree that Pakistan is not supposed to first give the full control of Azad Kashmir to Indians before the plebiscite. If the Indians somehow get the full control on Azad Kashmir too, then Indians would claim what is the issue. In fact, Pakistan’s giving the control of Azad Kashmir, possibly to an international force, was supposed to be a part of the overall arrangements for holding the plebiscite. Pakistan has never refused to give all-out support and full access to Azad Kashmir for the UN staff to make those arrangements. Indian rouge behavior since the resolutions were passed at UNO is an evidence of wishful thinking of the Indians to use this lame excuse to buy more and more time. In the mean time, India followed a well orchestrated policy of breaking the will and demand of Kashmiri people for their right. Indians then started claiming that the people of J&K have exercised their right through the shame elections held under the Indian constitution. Obviously, the Kashmiri people did not accept that mischievous and misleading Indian claim. The people of J&K – after getting completely disillusioned and disappointed by Indian refusal, oppression, and exploitations – started their armed struggle in 1989. Kashmiri people then decided to snatch their basic right to decide their future no matter what and Pakistani people decided to provide full support to their Kashmiri brothers in their justified struggle. As expected, there have been many ups and downs at local and global stages during that struggle and many international conspiracies have been hatched against Kashmiri people. But the people of Kashmir have never lost their sight on their goal of breaking the jaws of Draculian Indian occupation. By their exhibition of exemplary courage, persistent defiance to the brutal Indian occupation, and unmatched resilience against internal and external conspiracies, the Kashmiri people have shown the world that they are serious in getting their basic right. Indians will certainly fail and be disappointed in quelling the Kashmiri freedom movement no matter how much time they manage to buy.

      • You have given the answer yourself!
        In the resolutions,Pakistan has been clearly asked to withdraw its forces.There is no privelege given to pakistan that it shall do it to this or that agency. Obviously Pakistan simply cannot take this risk.The risk that pakistan also loose part of kashmir will be a loss too much to bear.Thus the problem essentially is a catch 22 sitiuation.No wonder that even pak does not give stress to the resolutions, but constantly harps on the issue of self-determination of the kashmiris.So why blame the Indians.

        BTW why do you use the term J&K.Jammu is hindu, ladakh. kargil, drass, doda are Hindu, buddhist and shia dominated.There is NO MILITANCY is these areas.The problem/seperatism is in fact in the valley and adjoining areas only.The population of this area has no right to hold the other areas of the state to ransom.
        Today the local kashmiri is not the majority part of the armed militacy.Most of the fighters are from the pak based lashkars,leTs, jaishes etc.In fact local kashmiris were not deemed fanatic enough.IN some ways this has helped india since the outside fanatic elements who are sunni, have totally alienated the shias, who absolutely support India.Amongst the local kashmiris there is the dialogue faction with Mirwaiz opposed by Gilani.The problem with Gilani is that he is seen as nothing but a pakistani puppet.People give more respect to Mirwaiz who at least is seen as talking from the heart for kashmiris rather than as a remote control for pakistan.Besides the current chaotic status of pakistan, the flip flop of pakistan foreign policy, the policy change of pakistanis against talibans, their supposed big ally, at one phone call from the USA, does not encourage the kashmiris.Jo khud mar raha hai, woh doosre ko kya madad karega!Will a state like pakistan, with no stable government, alternation between military civil rule, hostage to the americans be truly about to support kashmiris.The logic of Islam also rings hollow since Pakistan at the moment is bombarding its own citizens and civilians with artillery, cobra gunships, tanks, fighters etc.Such a thing has NEVER happened in Kashmir.At no time has the IAF ever bombed kashmir or tanks and artillery had to be used.Hundred of Innocents are dying.With what moral authority pak can talk!
        The kashmiris have no restriction on media, they fuly see what is happening to pakistan.
        That is why some seperatis like Lone also took part in the elections.The kashmiris are seeing the world and the rest of India go ahead, while they are mired in trouble.

  4. rajk? stfu! man you are delirious, are you tripping or what? you dont know what the hell you are raving on about. you say WE are bombing our own citizens? you absolute DH!! we are trying to rid our country of foreign backed extremist/terrorist elements. are you going to deny the fact that YOUR ‘maha bharat’ is not their biggest benefactor???? you can hide all your shortcomings but my dear neighbour the fact of the matter is simply this: YOU and YOUR hammwattani’s could NEVER stomach the fact that Pakistan got away from you and was carved out as a seperate state!! you talk about Bangladesh.. well.. we lost Bangladesh due to some faults of our own but predominantly Indian/RAW interference who exploited the situation. The Indians claimed to be protectors of the Bengali people, ‘hey we are your friends, we’ll protect you and help you gain independance from mainland Pakistan’. basically mohtarem rajk sahb (by the way you know what that means?? its really high flown urdu, not the kind ur used to in your country, who cant even speak the language properly!) your country aspires to be the next great power, but before that happens they must stop constantly interfering in their neighbours matters otherwise th e’federation’ wont last. you remember what happened to your buddies Russia? just a hint – one that suffices for a wise man, hope you catch my drift! now go and do us a favour, get the hell out of here and do you ‘neytagirri’ somewhere else.. Pakistani’s have never had a problem with Indians, we just hate the zionists who rule over you. very soon in their quest for dominion over this region, they will not even leave a country for you.. then what you gona do partner?

    • The fact is as long as these elements were attacking India or outside powers they were ‘our boy’, jehadis fighting for the cause of freedom, fighting Indian ‘oppresion’ etc etc!Graet islamic forces
      Now that theese elements are pitted against the pakistani state itself, they become foregners, enemies, india backed elements etc etc!
      Most Indians of my generation have neither seen nor remember partion.Pakistan was created as a seperate nation and it is there.What else is there to it?You went your seperate way, fine.
      The cause of friction is when Indian intrests are harmed by Pakistan.LIve in peace and we will not have any cause of even thinking about pakistan forget mentionining it.

      Interference was actually started by Pakistan.DO you rememeber 1965 and operation gibraltar/grand slam when infiltrators were sent to kashmir with SSG to foment rebellion and breakaway kashmir from India.
      India simply reciprocated the kind gesture when presented with the oppurtunity.

      Regard Urdu, off course i dont’t speak or write it well.Its not my first language.But knowing hindi verw well, i have no problem understanding it.But there are many in India who do it very well.Urdu is one of the recognised languages in India.Its used quite a lot in J&K, punjab, himachal, UP.
      Why remind us of the Russians!
      Is that what they keep on telling you when the ‘indian bogey’is brought up.
      Thats been told to us since’forever’.India is not a nation, it will collapse, it is artificial collection of people, it has no unity etc etc.
      Nothing happen yet!
      And all these while we have grown and grown.
      The funniest thing is , this is most said by a neighbour, which has already broken up and is facing existential threats in major parts of its areas.
      Whats with the zionists!
      India developed a relation with israel only in the 1990s.
      Look at saudia arabia, turkey, gulf sates and other so called islamic states.They have far far closer relations with israel.
      In fact the biggest zionist of all, the USA is yur biggest benefactor.
      The USA has bases in pakistan, it gives yu the most aid, most weapons, billions of dollars, and India is under control of Zionists!!!!!!!
      What a joke!
      India answers to no one, but its constituition, parliament and people.Its an actual democracy.
      Not the kind of guided democracy in pakistan.
      With no guarantess what the army will do next!
      Or the kind with Zardari at the head, who can sell everything in sight!!!

      Better ask yur govt to stops its interference.
      Worry less about kashmir, stop acting like a great power in seeking strategic depth and control over afghanistan.
      See the time line of yur troubles, and it will be clear, how the foolish actions of yur govt have brought disaster to its people.

  5. @rajk October 19, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    The UN resolutions call for the plebiscite in the state of J&K and not for the Indian occupation on Azad Kashmir too. We knew fully well the cheap mentality of Hindus. It is not merely a coincidence that you are saying so. India would have almost certainly occupied Azad Kashmir, in shameless and brazen violation of the UN resolutions, had Pakistan vacated the librated area. Indians, in that case, would have been condemned and cursed by the world community. But that would not have been effective against disgraced Indians. Only shameless bigots like you can harp on that cheap thinking of grabbing others’ land by crook and by pure crook. It was a better choice not to vacate Azad Kashmir without significant progress in arrangements towards the plebiscite and iron-clad guarantee against any Indian foul play. Azad Kashmir was maintained as a librated land to serve as the base camp for the freedom struggle inside Indian occupied J&K.

    The UN resolutions call for a plebiscite for the whole state of J&K – not just the Kashmir valley. The people of Jammu and Laddakh want to get rid of illegal Indian occupation of J&K as much as the people of Kashmir and Laddakh. Being non-Muslims in Jammu or Laddakh does not imply that they are willing to be Indians. Your claim that the people of Jammu and Laddakh make up a majority in the state of J&K – and they want to be a part of India – is no more than a white lie. Hindus are infamously proficient in making such wild lies. If your claim is good, then what the heck Indians are waiting for? Why Indians are wasting so much to keep J&K under their illegal occupation? Why are they keep getting body bags of their soldiers? Why India is getting disgraced every year at the UNO, UN HR Commission, and other world bodies. The fact of the matter is that the majority of the people of J&K are not willing to be called an Indian. It is a disgrace for them. That is why they are keeping the freedom struggle continued. Indians are not able to douse the fire and quell the Kashmiri freedom movement in the last 64 years. And they will not be able to do that in the next 64 years either. The freedom struggles all over the world see ups and downs – and so is the case with Kashmir freedom struggle – but these movements never die. The defunct USSR kept the C.E. states under the iron-fist rule in the iron curtain. But these states took no time in getting librated when the occupation forces got weaker. The continuous heroic struggle of the people of Kashmir are knitting a death knell for the artificial state of India, which will disperse like a house of cards when the Indian military is busted in J&K. That time is, InshaAllah, closer than many people think.

    No one really believes in the biggest Indian lie that J&K is an integral part of India. That infamous claim is so old and misused that world community has started showing its disgust at ugly Indian claims. China has started to highlight the disputed nature of J&K by issuing visa to J&K residents on a separate sheet rather than on the Indian passport. Indian diplomacy of camouflaging the J&K dispute as a bilateral issue has started losing. It is just the beginning.

    • UN resolutions do call for plebiscite in J&k.But as i have said, all pak forces are to vacate the areas they occupied in 1948, that is AJK for you and POK for US.
      BTW a part of kashmir is also with China (Aksai Chin).India makes noise about it , but Pakistan conveniently forgets it.
      Thus legally speaking, no plebiscite is possible till Pak moves out of POK.
      You cannot have it both ways!
      That i will not vacate also and i will ask for plebiscite also!
      By the way, what is this ‘you hindus’.J&K belongs to all Indians,and not hindus.The Chief minister of J&K is muslim, the Special operation group of the JK police is mostly muslim.Lot of solldiers of the JK light Infantry are muslim.
      So keep the talibani type muslim fanaticism to yourself.
      How do i know jammu and ladakhis,shias want no part of the valley terrorism or that they support India?
      One, i visit those places so i know!!!
      Second, there is NO ground support for militants in these areas and terrorist incidents attacks are RARE to NON-existent in Jammu and ladakh.Whenever there are strike call in the valley, Jammu and ladakh TAKE NO PART.There IS NO LEADER FROM JAMMU, LADAKH , KARGIL , DRASS who is part of the APHC.The Hurriyat ONLY reperesents people of the valley and adjoining areas.Non-muslims and non-summis have seen first hand how the sunni-militants, drove out the kashmiri pandits, targeted shias and try to imopose a talibani type code of burqa, no cinema, entertainment in the valley.How the shreiking women of the dukhtarnae-millat try to impose dress codes on women.
      WHo wants to live under a talibani type rule!
      We are not wasting any time in Kashmir.
      The Indian army is there to do its job protecting the borders of India and to ensure that the guys coming across the border are welcomed suitabally.
      Body bags?
      Every soldier knows what his duty entails.

      Having said that, the sitiuation in kashmir valley is pretty OK for some years now.

      Attacks are sporadic in nature.MOst encounter now are active, ie is when the the force hunt down the terrorists or sneak grenade attacks.
      The fedayeen type attacks of some years ago are almost extinct now.Most major ‘commanders’ have been bumped off.

      Maybe all these guys are busy on YOUR SIDE now!!!!

      The body bag thing actually is much worse on your side BTW.

      Maybe YOU should start exploring why pakistan wants to keep certain areas underitself where the people do not consider themselves to be pakistanis!
      I do not know where you get the idea that the UN is troubling India on kashmir!!
      YOU better start worrying about the freedom struggles in pakistan that you have suppressed.They are all starting to come out now.
      What hypocrisy?
      Pakistan talks about freedom for kashmiris, while not giving its own people full democarcy!
      The baluchis lands are looted, their leaders assasinated, their homes bombed from the air, and pakistan bleed for kashmir!!!
      India allows the Hurriyat leaders Mirwaiz, Lone, even guys like Geelani to move and give their speeches!!!
      Any other country would have locked them up forever and trown the key away or like some bombed them with helicopter gunship or from the air.

      DO not lecture us on human rights.WE and the world know how saintly you guys are!!!!

      China is only reacting to needle india.But the guys exposed are yu chaps.Why does china yur graet freind not return AKsai CHin (a part of kashmir) to AJK, wht does pakistan stay silent on it!HOw has pakistan , without asking the kashmiris ceded territory for building the kakarakoram highway!!!

      CHina, the biggest violators themselves, who think about nothing, about running over tanks over biys and girls or machine gunning them before the world TV!!!

      And CHIna, the MASTERS of looking after their OWN intersts.YOu keep on Harping UN , International community.DO yu know waht china has said on kashmir;

      “Kashmir is an issue that has been longstanding left from history. This issue touches the bilateral relations between the relevant countries,” he told a group of visiting foreign journalists here.
      As China is a friendly neighbour of both countries, it hopes to see that the two sides will seek a solution through peaceful and friendly consultations, Hu said when asked if China was prepared to play some role in the resolution of the issue.

      While he stressed that Kashmir was a bilateral issue, he stopped short of ruling out the possibility of mediation.”As a friend China will be happy to see such progress (in the peace process) and we will be happy if we can play a constructive role in the resolving of the issue (Kashmir), but after all it is a bilateral issue,” he said.

      Evewn the chinese see the dispute as between India-Pak, a bilateral issue and NOT and international UN issue as Pakistan loves too say.
      Note how cunningly he is silent on kashmir with china!!!
      YOu better pray everyday that India china relations do not ever improve, BECAUSE if they do the chinese will be the first guys to dump yu!!!!

    • How you can claim that the people of Jammu and Ladakh (also Shias, Gujjers, etc.) want to be a part of India. One can not agree to that lie just because a silly, calling himself as rajk, has visited those places and is preaching that non-sense. Your claim that Kashmir freedom struggle has no support in Jammu and Ladakh is shy off the truth. It is just a lie. But even if I agree for a moment, just for the sake argument, to your silly claim, that still does not mean that the people of Jammu and Ladakh want to be a part of India. The only way to find that out is to allow them to exhibit their will through a plebiscite held by a neutral body. But the bottom line is that Indians have fallen to utter disgrace by renegading on their commitment for plebiscite made at UN in front of the whole world community. As a result, the people of J&K have decided to get their azadi by any means including armed struggle. Indians can not face the determined Kashmiris for long. We would have seen Indian occupation forces booted out of J&K by now had the global scene suddenly not changed to the worst for Kashmiri freedom struggle. The people of J&K can not live as unwilling citizens of Hindu India just because a bunch rouge global powers want them do so.

      BTW, it is utmost difficult for the readers to understand what the heck you’re arguing. It will be much better if you could improve your English writing skill a bit above the level of temple education. Or else keep you mouth shut. No one really understands whatever you are mumbling.

      • You believe what you want too!!!

        But i would still suggest that you read the news, watch TV on Kashmir.Study where incidents take place and where they do not.Where Hindus, Buddhist, Shias are concentrated and where Sunni muslims are.Maybe things may make sense to you.

        At the absolute certainty of repetition,a plebiscite in Kashmir could not take place since Pakistan did not fulfil the conditions set .
        In any other case, India neither feels the need nor any obligation to hold such any plebiscite.

        Pakistan’s antics in Kashmir have been properly reciprocated by India.
        Pakistan knows what they are and they are facing the consequences of it.
        Be thankful for global conditions that country’s like USA gives aid to you in the name of war on terror.

        otherwise jo tumahri bas mein hain that you have tried!

        Kuch hua to nahi!

        If Kashmiris really wanted freedom across J&K , no power on earth could have stopped them from separating.
        How did India succeed in Bangladesh whike pakistan has not in kashmir?
        Simply that the majority of Bangladeshis wanted freedom.Would India have won in two weeks if Bangaldeshis had not whole heartedly

      • If Kashmiris really wanted freedom across J&K , no power on earth could have stopped them from separating.
        How did India succeed in Bangladesh whike pakistan has not in kashmir?
        The answer is simply that the majority of Bangladeshis wanted freedom.Would India have won in two weeks if Bangladeshis had not fully supported India.

        Stop kidding yourself.
        IF fantasies keep you happy, dream on.

        AND expand your horizons and thinking.
        Perhaps then comprehension may follow!

  6. In the people of Jammu and Ladakh want to be in Indian, why Indian government does not have a plebescite and win it. Then the Indians can claim that J&K is an integral part of India. Not before that. But India knows that the majority does not want to join India. Hence India is running away from the plabescite.

  7. Why Indians have their wet tails between their legs when China does something just to offend India?

  8. a very tiresome article just bcz writer wants to turn wish into news,thats why it is so illogical, does its rationality explain what is actually happening now, to me just a maha bharat song,they pitifully ignore realities and preferred to live in fools paradise thats why india inspite of all this bundle of reasons india is losing geo stratigic game, just ignoring the reality in hate of pakistan, and pakistan is winning bcz she admits realities

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