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Hamid Gul: Purpose of New Afghan Intelligence Agency RAMA Is ‘to destabilize Pakistan’

August 16, 2009

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In an exclusive interview with Foreign Policy Journal, retired Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul responds to charges that he supports terrorism, discusses 9/11 and ulterior motives for the war on Afghanistan, claims that the U.S., Israel, and India are behind efforts to destabilize Pakistan, and charges the U.S. and its allies with responsibility for the lucrative Afghan drug trade.

Retired Lieutenant General Hamid Gul was the Director General of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) from 1987 to 1989, during which time he worked closely with the CIA to provide support for the mujahedeen fighting the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Though once deemed a close ally of the United States, in more recent years his name has been the subject of considerable controversy. He has been outspoken with the claim that the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 were an “inside job”. He has been called “the most dangerous man in Pakistan”, and the U.S. government has accused him of supporting the Taliban, even recommending him to the United Nations Security Council for inclusion on the list of international terrorists.

In an exclusive interview with Foreign Policy Journal, I asked the former ISI chief what his response was to these allegations. He replied, “Well, it’s laughable I would say, because I’ve worked with the CIA and I know they were never so bad as they are now.” He said this was “a pity for the American people” since the CIA is supposed to act “as the eyes and ears” of the country. As for the charge of him supporting the Taliban, “it is utterly baseless. I have no contact with the Taliban, nor with Osama bin Laden and his colleagues.” He added, “I have no means, I have no way that I could support them, that I could help them.”

After the Clinton administration’s failed attempt to assassinate Osama bin Laden in 1998, some U.S. officials alleged that bin Laden had been tipped off by someone in Pakistan to the fact that the U.S. was able to track his movements through his satellite phone. Counter-terrorism advisor to the National Security Council Richard Clarke said, “I have reason to believe that a retired head of the ISI was able to pass information along to Al Qaeda that the attack was coming.” And some have speculated that this “retired head of the ISI” was none other than Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul.

When I put this charge to him, General Gul pointed out to me that he had retired from the ISI on June 1, 1989, and from the army in January, 1992. “Did you share this information with the ISI?” he asked. “And why haven’t you taken the ISI to task for parting this information to its ex-head?” The U.S. had not informed the Pakistan army chief, Jehangir Karamat, of its intentions, he said. So how could he have learned of the plan to be able to warn bin Laden? “Do I have a mole in the CIA? If that is the case, then they should look into the CIA to carry out a probe, find out the mole, rather than trying to charge me. I think these are all baseless charges, and there’s no truth in it…. And if they feel that their failures are to be rubbed off on somebody else, then I think they’re the ones who are guilty, not me.”

General Gul turned our conversation to the subject of 9/11 and the war on Afghanistan. “You know, my position is very clear,” he said. “It’s a moral position that I have taken. And I say that America has launched this aggression without sufficient reasons. They haven’t even proved the case that 9/11 was done by Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda.” He argued that “There are many unanswered questions about 9/11,” citing examples such as the failure to intercept any of the four planes after it had become clear that they had been hijacked. He questioned how Mohammed Atta, “who had had training on a light aircraft in Miami for six months” could have maneuvered a jumbo jet “so accurately” to hit his target (Atta was reportedly the hijacker in control of American Airlines Flight 11, which was the first plane to hit its target, striking the North Tower of the World Trade Center at 8:46 am). And he made reference to the flight that hit the Pentagon and the maneuver its pilot had performed, dropping thousands of feet while doing a near 360 degree turn before plowing into its target. “And then, above all,” he added, “why have no heads been rolled? The FBI, the CIA, the air traffic control — why have they not been put to question, put to task?” Describing the 9/11 Commission as a “cover up”, the general added, “I think the American people have been made fools of. I have my sympathies with them. I like Americans. I like America. I appreciate them. I’ve gone there several times.”

At this point in our discussion, General Gul explained how both the U.S. and United Kingdom stopped granting him an entry visa. He said after he was banned from the U.K., “I wrote a letter to the British government, through the High Commissioner here in Islamabad, asking ‘Why do you think that — if I’m a security risk, then it is paradoxical that you should exclude me from your jurisdiction. You should rather nab me, interrogate me, haul me up, take me to the court, whatever you like. I mean, why are you excluding me from the U.K., it’s not understandable.’ I did not receive a reply to that.” He says he sent a second letter inviting the U.K. to send someone to question him in Pakistan, if they had questions about him they wanted to know. If the U.S. wants to include him on the list of international terrorists, Gul reasons, “I am still prepared to let them grant me the visa. And I will go…. If they think that there is something very seriously wrong with me, why don’t you give me the visa and catch me then?”

‘They lack character’

I turned to the war in Afghanistan, observing that the ostensible purpose for the war was to bring the accused mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden, to justice. And yet there were plans to overthrow the Taliban regime that predated 9/11. The FBI does not include the 9/11 attacks among the crimes for which bin Laden is wanted. After the war began, General Tommy Franks responded to a question about capturing him by saying, “We have not said that Osama bin Laden is a target of this effort.” The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Richard Myers, similarly said afterward, “Our goal has never been to get bin Laden.” And President George W. Bush himself said, “I truly am not that concerned about him.” These are self-serving statements, obviously, considering the failure to capture bin Laden. But what, I asked General Gul, in his view, were the true reasons for the invasion of Afghanistan, and why the U.S. is still there?

“A very good question,” he responded. “I think you have reached the point precisely.” It is a “principle of war,” he said, “that you never mix objectives. Because when you mix objectives then you end up with egg on your face. You face defeat. And here was a case where the objectives were mixed up. Ostensibly, it was to disperse al Qaeda, to get Osama bin Laden. But latently, the reasons for the offensive, for the attack on Afghanistan, were quite different.”

First, he says, the U.S. wanted to “reach out to the Central Asian oilfields” and “open the door there”, which “was a requirement of corporate America, because the Taliban had not complied with their desire to allow an oil and gas pipeline to pass through Afghanistan. UNOCAL is a case in point. They wanted to keep the Chinese out. They wanted to give a wider security shield to the state of Israel, and they wanted to include this region into that shield. And that’s why they were talking at that time very hotly about ‘greater Middle East’. They were redrawing the map.”

Second, the war “was to undo the Taliban regime because they had enforced Shariah”, or Islamic law, which, “in the spirit of that system, if it is implemented anywhere, would mean an alternative socio-monetary system. And that they would never approve.”

Third, it was “to go for Pakistan’s nuclear capability”, something that used to be talked about “under their lip”, “but now they are openly talking about”. This was the reason the U.S. “signed this strategic deal with India, and this was brokered by Israel. So there is a nexus now between Washington, Tel Aviv, and New Delhi.”

While achieving some of these aims, “there are many things which are still left undone,” he continued, “because they are not winning on the battlefield. And no matter what maps you draw in your mind, no matter what plans you make, if you cannot win on the battlefield, then it comes to naught. And that is what is happening to America.”

“Besides, the American generals, I have a professional cudgel with them,” Gul added. “They lack character. They know that a job cannot be done, because they know —I cannot believe that they didn’t realize that the objectives are being mixed up here — they could not stand up to men like Rumsfeld and to Dick Cheney. They could not tell them. I think they cheated the American nation, the American people. This is where I have a problem with the American generals, because a general must show character. He must say that his job cannot be done. He must stand up to the politicians. But these generals did not stand up to them.”

As a further example of the lack of character in the U.S. military leadership, the General Gul cited the “victory” in Iraq. “George Bush said that it was a victory. That means the generals must have told him ‘We have won!’ They had never won. This was all bunkum, this was all bullshit.”

Segueing back to Afghanistan, he continued: “And if they are now saying that with 17,000 more troops they can win in Afghanistan — or even double that figure if you like — they cannot. Now this is a professional opinion I am giving. And I will give this sound opinion for the good of the American people, because I am a friend of the American people and that is why I always say that your policies are flawed. This is not the way to go.” Furthermore, the war is “widely perceived as a war against Islam. And George Bush even used the word ‘Crusade.'” This is an incorrect view, he insisted. “You talk about clash of civilizations. We say the civilizations should meet.”

Alluding once more to the U.S. charges against him, he added, “And if they think that my criticism is tantamount to opposition to America, this is totally wrong, because there are lots of Americans themselves who are not in line with the American policies.” He had warned early on, he informed me, including in an interview with Rod Nordland in Newsweek immediately following the 9/11 attacks, that the U.S. would be making a mistake to go to war. “So, if you tell somebody, ‘Don’t jump into the well!’ and that somebody thinks you are his enemy, then what is it that you can say about him?”

‘This state of anger is being fueled’

I turned the conversation towards the consequences of the war in Afghanistan on Pakistan, and the increased extremist militant activities within his own country’s borders, where the Pakistani government has been at war with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP, or Pakistan Taliban). I observed that the TTP seemed well funded and supplied and asked Gul how the group obtains financing and arms.

He responded without hesitation. “Yeah, of course they are getting it from across the Durand line, from Afghanistan. And the Mossad is sitting there, RAW is sitting there — the Indian intelligence agency — they have the umbrella of the U.S. And now they have created another organization which is called RAMA. It may be news to you that very soon this intelligence agency — of course, they have decided to keep it covert — but it is Research and Analysis Milli Afghanistan. That’s the name. The Indians have helped create this organization, and its job is mainly to destabilize Pakistan.”

General Bismillah Khan Mohammadi, former Deputy Minister of Defense of the Northern Alliance under Ahmad Shah Massoud and the Chief of Staff of the Afghan National Army since 2002 — “whom I know very well”, General Gul told me — “had gone to India a few days back, and he has offered bases to India, five of them: three on the border, the eastern border with Pakistan, from Asadabad, Jalalabad, and Kandhar; one in Shindand, which is near Heart; and the fifth one is near Mazar-e Sharif. So these bases are being offered for a new game unfolding there.” This is why, he asserted, the Indians, despite a shrinking economy, have continued to raise their defense budget, by 20 percent last year and an additional 34 percent this year.

He also cited as evidence of these designs to destabilize Pakistan the U.S. Predator drone attacks in Waziristan, which have “angered the Pathan people of that tribal belt. And this state of anger is being fueled. It is that fire that has been lit, is being fueled, by the Indian intelligence from across the border. Of course, Mossad is right behind them. They have no reason to be sitting there, and there’s a lot of evidence. I hope the Pakistan government will soon be providing some of the evidence against the Indians.”

Several days after I had first spoken with General Gul, the news hit the headlines that the leader of the TTP, Baitullah Mehsud, had been killed by a CIA drone strike. So I followed up with him and asked him to comment about this development. “When Baitullah Mehsud and his suicide bombers were attacking Pakistan armed forces and various institutions,” he said, “at that time, Pakistan intelligence were telling the Americans that Baitullah Mehsud was here, there. Three times, it has been written by the Western press, by the American press — three times the Pakistan intelligence tipped off America, but they did not attack him. Why have they now announced — they had money on him — and now attacked and killed him, supposedly? Because there were some secret talks going on between Baitullah Mehsud and the Pakistani military establishment. They wanted to reach a peace agreement, and if you recall there is a long history of our tribal areas, whenever a tribal militant has reached a peace agreement with the government of Pakistan, Americans have without any hesitation struck that target.” Among other examples, the former ISI chief said “an agreement in Bajaur was about to take place” when, on October 30, 2006, a drone struck a madrassa in the area, an attack “in which 82 children were killed”.

“So in my opinion,” General Gul continued, “there was some kind of a deal which was about to be arrived at — they may have already cut a deal. I don’t know. I don’t have enough information on that. But this is my hunch, that Baitullah was killed because now he was trying to reach an agreement with the Pakistan army. And that’s why there were no suicide attacks inside Pakistan for the past six or seven months.”

‘Very, very disturbing indeed’

Turning the focus of our discussion to the Afghan drug problem, I noted that the U.S. mainstream corporate media routinely suggest that the Taliban is in control of the opium trade. However, according to the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), Anti-Government Elements (or AGEs), which include but are not limited to the Taliban, account for a relatively small percentage of the profits from the drug trade. Two of the U.S.’s own intelligence agencies, the CIA and the DIA, estimate that the Taliban receives about $70 million a year from the drugs trade. That may seem at first glance like a significant amount of money, but it’s only about two percent of the total estimated profits from the drug trade, a figure placed at $3.4 billion by the UNODC last year.

Meanwhile, the U.S. has just announced its new strategy for combating the drug problem: placing drug traffickers with ties to insurgents —and only drug lords with ties to insurgents — on a list to be eliminated. The vast majority of drug lords, in other words, are explicitly excluded as targets under the new strategy. Or, to put it yet another way, the U.S. will be assisting to eliminate the competition for drug lords allied with occupying forces or the Afghan government and helping them to further corner the market.

I pointed out to the former ISI chief that Afghan opium finds its way into Europe via Pakistan, via Iran and Turkey, and via the former Soviet republics. According to the former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, convoys under General Rashid Dostum — who was reappointed last month to his government position as Chief of Staff to the Commander in Chief of the Afghan National Army by President Hamid Karzai — would truck the drugs over the border. And President Karzai’s own brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai, has been accused of being a major drug lord. So I asked General Gul who was really responsible for the Afghan drug trade.

“Now, let me give you the history of the drug trade in Afghanistan,” his answer began. “Before the Taliban stepped into it, in 1994 — in fact, before they captured Kabul in September 1996 — the drugs, the opium production volume was 4,500 tons a year. Then gradually the Taliban came down hard upon the poppy growing. It was reduced to around 50 tons in the last year of the Taliban. That was the year 2001. Nearly 50 tons of opium produced. 50. Five-zero tons. Now last year the volume was at 6,200 tons. That means it has really gone one and a half times more than it used to be before the Taliban era.” He pointed out, correctly, that the U.S. had actually awarded the Taliban for its effective reduction of the drug trade. On top of $125 million the U.S. gave to the Taliban ostensibly as humanitarian aid, the State Department awarded the Taliban $43 million for its anti-drug efforts. “Of course, they made their mistakes,” General Gul continued. “But on the whole, they were doing fairly good. If they had been engaged in meaningful, fruitful, constructive talks, I think it would have been very good for Afghanistan.”

Referring to the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, General Gul told me in a later conversation that Taliban leader “Mullah Omar was all the time telling that, look, I am prepared to hand over Osama bin Laden to a third country for a trial under Shariah. Now that is where — he said [it] twice — and they rejected this. Because the Taliban ambassador here in Islamabad, he came to me, and I asked him, ‘Why don’t you study this issue, because America is threatening to attack you. So you should do something.’ He said, ‘We have done everything possible.’ He said, ‘I was summoned by the American ambassador in Islamabad’ — I think Milam was the ambassador at that time — and he told me that ‘I said, “Look, produce the evidence.” But he did not show me anything other than cuttings from the newspapers.’ He said, ‘Look, we can’t accept this as evidence, because it has to stand in a court of law. You are prepared to put him on trial. You can try him in the United Nations compound in Kabul, but it has to be a Shariah court because he’s a citizen under Shariah law. Therefore, we will not accept that he should be immediately handed over to America, because George Bush has already said that he wants him “dead or alive”, so he’s passed the punishment, literally, against him.” Referring to the U.S. rejection of the Taliban offer to try bin Laden in Afghanistan or hand him over to a third country, General Gul added, “I think this is a great opportunity that they missed.”

Returning to the drug trade, General Gul named the brother of President Karzai, Abdul Wali Karzai. “Abdul Wali Karzai is the biggest drug baron of Afghanistan,” he stated bluntly. He added that the drug lords are also involved in arms trafficking, which is “a flourishing trade” in Afghanistan. “But what is most disturbing from my point of view is that the military aircraft, American military aircraft are also being used. You said very rightly that the drug routes are northward through the Central Asia republics and through some of the Russian territory, and then into Europe and beyond. But some of it is going directly. That is by the military aircraft. I have so many times in my interviews said, ‘Please listen to this information, because I am an aware person.’ We have Afghans still in Pakistan, and they sometimes contact and pass on the stories to me. And some of them are very authentic. I can judge that. So they are saying that the American military aircraft are being used for this purpose. So, if that is true, it is very, very disturbing indeed.”

Jeremy R. Hammond is the Editor of Foreign Policy Journal, an online source for news, critical analysis, and opinion commentary on U.S. foreign policy. His articles have been featured and cited in numerous other print and online publications around the world. He has appeared in interviews on the GCN radio network, Talk Nation Radio, and Press TV’s Middle East Today program.

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48 comments

  1. The name “RAMA” itself is symbolic of Hindu fascist ideologies… most probably inspired by “RAM”, one of their countless deities…


    • @Zaki Khalid aka Khaa-Leedh

      YOU PROVED WHAT A IDIOT PAKI YOU ARE…

      RAMA here means Research and Analysis Milli Afghanistan.


      • shut you heendoo bunyaan facist piece of shit shiv lun lover .. RAMA is your bloody divine diety atleast accept that you cheating scumbag black face heendoo.. hur waqat jhoot boltey hain chuteyay chacoori kaum sari.. you heendoos suggested this name to the afghan pedofiles maaan jao chutayoun!!!!!!!


  2. Good article….agree with Zaki


  3. I always listen good and look for What Gen. Hamid Gul has to say in the articles. I have found that mostly his info. and advice his always for Pakistan and the Muslim Ummah. Thanks for putting out the truth and your advice.


  4. very rightly said on baitullah…. love u general


  5. Very informative and well written article and not to forget very sharply spoken by General Gul…May Allah protect u


  6. This is Hamid Gul is the man who brought Nawaz Sharif to power… the man who looted this country


    • What do u mean? How was hamid gul involved in that?


    • How about Zardari and Musharaf….sucker ?????


    • Syed Nawaz Sharif not only looted Pakistan But also the hearts of a lot of Pakistanis by his Policies.
      And yes what about B.B. Shaheed, Zardari and dictator Musharraf? Answer it.


    • Mr Syed wen u hav no information on a matter then don’t taalk abut it.


  7. Im a great fan of gen. hamid.His knowledge & analysis on afghan war is superb.Being an ex. ISI chief he has in depth knowledge about the war & drug money.His interview is an eye opener for those who take him seriously.


  8. My dear friend Syed suggested that it was gen. Hamid,s who brought nawaz to head the govr.Had he known before his ulteriour motives, im sure he would never had brought him to power.


  9. Baittulla Mehsud was strikng peace agreemnt,with ISI, Gen’s guess was leaked out, could the leak be Pakistans’ Minister Rehman Malik?


  10. You are very much aware that ISI was strengthened by CIA during war against Soviet Union, our institutions were destroyed now if American and others are working to strengthen our intelligence agencies, why you are feeling that it is a threat for Pakistan, if it is so, Pakistani’s ISI played an active role to destabilize Afghanistan, Taliban government were the puppet of Pakistanis government, which were established by Pakistanis administration. In your interview with Geo you have mentioned that you are ready to join Taliban against American, we are aware of your contribution to Afghanistan stabilization.


    • I’m sorry to say that but what destabilization you are talking about? Only time there was stable government in your country in last 3 decades was when Taliban were ruling.

      And if Taliban were puppet of Pakistan who ruled 90% of Afghanistan then what about current setup which controls hardly 5% of the country, may be president’s palace and its surroundings, who does this represent???

      Wakeup and growup as well, if you can’t see the reality doesn’t mean other suffer from same disease.


  11. May ALLAH protect our beloved country from all evil schemes of hindu and jewish zionists.


    • Include Zionists of China too who are openenly slaughtering muslims for so many years.


      • Don’t worry, will make sure you are not missed out.


  12. Those are fools who think that US can ever have good motives for Pakistan. US CIA plays in hands of Israeli Zionists and they are here in Afghanistan to destablise Pakistan. The only hope is ISI and Pakistan Armed Forces…With the help of Alllah they will be able to protect Pakistan.

    But not ZARDARI, SHARIF, BIBI, RAHMAN MALIK or other sold people who like nothing but power and looting the wealth of our beloved Pakistan.


    • HAHAHA and what Mushraf did???

      You pakis are LOOTED by all the leader whether its politicians of army.

      Sad Sad state of pak.

      Its sooooo funny to see the once army chief and prez who is fired by US HIDING in UK.

      The BIGGEST ARMY traitor of pak=Mushraf


      • watever we do is on our soil Amit, we are not baniyas like u baghal main churee moon main ram ram.
        u are hurt becuase even in the worst conditions Pakistan came so far with a great military power just think where will we go wen we will hav another leader like our beloved Quid-e-Azam or Allama Iqbal InshAllah 😛


      • SCUMBAG Amit

        Looks like you haven’t researched enough on ur shameless so called “democracy”, let me help you, Here –

        http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/crossette

        And this –
        New Delhi: One is facing a murder charge, another has been arrested for abduction, while a third is fighting a robbery case. Welcome to India’s general election, where nearly a fifth of the 5,500 candidates face criminal charges.

        The Indian Constitution allows politicians facing criminal cases to contest polls, and critics say mafia dons and corrupt regional bosses are using their money and power to garner votes.

        Fear and reverence for politicians facing criminal charges play heavily in the minds of voters in India.

        These candidates sometimes control large areas where state facilities are lacking. In some places, they play the role of “Robin Hood”, fixing low charges for services such as doctors’ fees.

        Experts say it reflects how corruption and politics have co-existed in India for decades.

        “Criminals see this as a business opportunity to make money and gain a foothold in politics, while parties depend on them to win elections,” said Himanshu Jha, coordinator of Social Watch India, a rights organisation.

        A famous conversation that media mogul Rupert Murdoch had with the late Dhirubhai Ambani, then one of India’s biggest businessmen, illustrates the bond between politics and crime in India as reported in the book In Spite of the Gods: The Rise of Modern India by Edward Luce.

        Murdoch had seen the prime minister and the finance minister.

        “Ah, you’ve met all the right people,” said Ambani. “But if you want to get anywhere in India you must meet all the wrong people.”


      • hey amit u must admire the true sources tht provide us with these info..and on the other side (india) u ve to be shameful whn u r never shown the real picture of yr country. world’s most poorest people, world’s worst caste syestem.the point is why india isnt failing thts cause u r sitting in the laps of ambrit n u r getting the delights of it. it doesnt matter ke hamaray kuch log bhi aese mazay lete hain.lekin remember ye buhut kam hain.but yr whole nation is after the delights..mazay lete rahoo pappu


      • Sad but true


    • Allahu Akbar you said it bro (saqib) agreed 100%


  13. @ Amit:

    poor psychotic Bhaarti..

    AMIT = Astoundingly Morbid Indian Tatti

    (lol!)


  14. is it possible to share this article in facebook, how does this works????


    • I’ve added the facebook share link in the original post – you can use it to share on fb


  15. Thanks alot…


  16. Please speak louder …………
    Nation are with you


  17. Its A request to P.K.K.H Team to have a lenghty article on General AKHTAR ABDULREHMAN.Late General was the Father of Afghanistan War against U.S.S.R & CREATOR of Afghanistan Stratigy.
    Yes we do respect General GUL, but he was D.G of I.S.I during 1987 to 1989 only when back bone of Soviets was broken, Before that the whole 9 years from the start of Soviet Invasion to 1987 the Afghanistan war fought under General AKHTAR ABDULREHMAN.
    ITS A REQUEST PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE


    • very very very good point mate. most people do not even know the name of this great leader. Also ISI was also revived during this era and this man was behind that as well. Thanks for raising this point.


    • Thanks for this Sameer, we are working on it 🙂


  18. One Terrorist gone, other to come. Baituallah hope you burn in hell for killing innocent woment and children in Pakistan. Whether its filthy pigs like Baitullahs, Ali Sher haidaris or Jhangawis those pigs that kill innocent woment and children in the name of “their” Islam dont deserve to pollute this planet and filth the Pak-land by their existance.

    Anyone who is against Pakistan, its unity, its territorial integrity, Kill em all.


  19. Pakistani Armed Forces proved that they can defend the territories of Pakistan. I suggest Pakistan Army open recruitment from tribal areas and make a strong presence with the help of locals. No worries from CIA, MOSAD, RAW or RAMA. I think only single intelegence operation will destroy their network within Pakistan. If we become united no outside enemy can harm Pakistan. It is neccessary to overcome our internal problems by accommodating eachother (provinces) and for the future of our peoples. Without present geography we shall be nothing. If with this ideal geography our leaders are behaving like puppets then how can a part of it can imagine to live with diginity in this world.


  20. You are right about Gen. Akhtar Abdul Rehman. I would love to know who this great General was. Nobody talks about him. I think we ought to know more about our recent heroes including Hamid Gul.


  21. I am intrigued how the children of Hamid Gul and Akhtar Abdur Rehman created multi-million rupees industrial empires. They do not come from feudal background so can not claim ancestral money. Definitely not on daddy’s pension. This was about forgotten and remembered heroes.

    HINT: Defence procurement is a very shady business in the world, with commissions amounting to billions! This I am talking about legal, above the table deals. Hard to imagine what involves the covert deals such as arms supply to mujahideen etc.


    • Yes it is necessary for Gen. Hamid Gul and Children of Gen. Akhtar to give detail of their business from where they earn money.


      • and no trial for them???????


  22. RAMA & RAW, the same chromosomes of Hindu
    zionism in the region ” Khad was a mere
    fertilizer from which India has expanded its
    terrorism.


  23. [PAKISTAN (INCLUDING KASHMIR) + HINDU OCCUPIED INDIA + AFGHANISTAN] => AKHAND PAKISTAN (Greater PAKISTAN) – INSHA ALLAH.

    All Hindu pigs should now to be prepared to make their way toward “NARK (i.e. Hell)” because Pakistani Mujahedeens are comming in India to save the humanity – Insha Allah.


  24. Dear Hamid gul is the man who is famous for engineering elections in ppakistan. (worst than killing million men). He is also sited in the muder of Murtaza butto and benazir butto. He wants Musharaf to be hanged because Musharaf simpmly ignored him while making his Martial cabinet.


  25. nice article, well said about baitullah


  26. we need to unite as one Pakistan!


  27. you dont know what you are talking about man, are you smoking crack again.

    Sid August 19, 2009 at 12:26 am


  28. how can a CIA sold out hameed gul knows anything about pakistan…shame on u ahmad qurashi…u proved that everyone has a price…u got it…now join the bandwagon of culprits like hameed gul, shahid masud,hamid mir,sharifs and CJ….shame…shame…shame



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