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Zaid Hamid answers criticism on Dawn TV

August 5, 2009

In the first part of this video, Nadeem Farooq Paracha is shown up for being utterly ignorant and naive. Barely able to string sentences together and mumbling his words, he tries to offer a counter-analysis to Zaid Hamid while exposing the dangerously limited understanding he has of history and geo-politics. We would honestly advise NFP to stick to his music reviews which no-one reads anyway.

The second part of this video is Zaid Hamid deciphering the truth from fiction and answering his critics who try to label him as a conspiracy theorist and a hate-monger. And not surprisingly, he does a fantastic job.

A MUST WATCH show:

Part 1

Part 2

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47 comments

  1. you can believe in democracy, capitalism and these other -isms naeem farooq paracha ..That maybe you, but we believe in the right way which is Islam !

    Zaid Hamid is showing us the light !


  2. “WE ARE HITTING THEM WHERE IT HURTS MOST”
    they are feeling the pain …..
    hahahhahahhahahahhahahah
    well said ZAID sahab…

    and for paracha just type “zaid hamid” or “brasstacks” on google or youtube you will find the simple answers of complicated questions.


  3. well done Zaid Hamid, debunking Paracha and the likes. Paracha was making absolutely no sense.


  4. i love one line of hakeem sahib when he said they just study books and get information from there and make decisions while they are not aware of ground reality which hakeem sahib is…. Desi goraaa’s ,brown slaves of white master, “mr.pracha” my sympathy for you…


  5. I’m a very average english speaker nd don’t have very strong opinions of my own but even i can speak better than mister i-know-it-all Nadeem F(adeem) Paracha Lol. I agree with him on one thing thou that the history books we are taught are nothing but garbage. They miss out the whole paper of the Huge Muslim civilization, the Great Khilafat-e-Rashida, just because the Historians of the Western World have termed it as ‘the Dark ages’ … yes our histories books are bad nd they should be amended heavily. But we can’t expect Mr Paracha to do the job, who can’t give one lecture on Muslim C. History to save his life.

    And About Sir Zaid, what to say? =D=D


    • “””They miss out the whole paper of the Huge Muslim civilization, the Great Khilafat-e-Rashida, just because the Historians of the Western World have termed it as ‘the Dark ages’””””

      True that, it was the ‘dark ages’ for the west but that was the peak of the muslim civilization!

      Check out this site, it’s all about the inventions which were made by Muslims in there ‘peak’ time – http://muslimheritage.com/


  6. Well done as usual Mr. Zaid Hamid!

    Rightly said whatever the US says in not a conspiracy theory but whatever others say is a conspiracy theory!

    Paracha dude go back to school!


  7. Farooq Nadeem Paracha’s views are pedestrian and childish. He fails to substaintiate even a single point that he rambles on with.

    Unfortuantely , when Musharaf gave freedom to the Media in Pakistan he could never imagine that the proliferation of scores of channels would overtake the availability of true/ trained journalists by light years. Hence, having no choice, the awning gap was filled in , by compulsion, with the majority of client journalists from the print media whose competence and agenda is common knowledge.
    As a conseuence we ended up with not an ‘ Azad’ Media but an ‘Awara’ Media instead. Paracha belongs to the same and is in the same league as Hamid Mir,Shahid`Masood, Ansar Abbasi, Saleh Zafar. Nazir Naji et al.
    The problem with these pseudo journalists is that in the shape of ahid Hamid / Ahmed Quraishi their game is now exposed in the`mainstream media on a daily basis and on the Net. An additional irritant for them is that the monopoly over the English language media has come to an end and so the pseudo intellectuals have been beaten at their own game.

    We need not worry about pygmies like Paracha.
    More power to Zaid Hamid and Ahmed Quraishi.May their tribe increase ! ( Amen )


  8. I SALUTE!! ZAID HAMID SAHAB!!

    he’s blown NFP and his crappy rhetorics into bits n pieces…hahaha


  9. No body reads nadeem pracha’s crap and no any other newspaper wants to hire him as he is a senseless person. A self proclaimed intellectual.


  10. Geeoo Hakim sahab. Dil khush kar diya.


  11. Amazing interview…amazing respoense!


  12. Zaid Hamid gave a great respoense, more interviews like this will help us reach out to people.


  13. I start feeling sorry for Paracha even before I saw Zaid Hamids response. These kind a people are the ones who are fascinated by the western culture. And the irony is west pay no mind to people like this.


  14. Zaid Hamid Great work …May allah bless you and all the muslims for the work that you do


  15. I am not clear what the objective of this show was, the two clips don’t really tell you the director thought process. Given that, I think it was an uneven match :-), they brought a stick against AK47 in a fight. I know some of the problems are of our own making but it was disturbing to see Paracha’s simplistic view of the world. After watching his ramblings for few minutes, I was thinking if this guys every pulls his head out of his ass.


  16. Nadeem f Paracha got his chance to pour out his insane pseudo intellect against Zaid Hamid on a TV but this self proclaimed intellectual actually a Marxist has been showing his mental illness in a weekly Column in Images Dawn.
    One more pseudo intellectual should be exposed and that is Fasi Zaka. Both NFP and Fasi are trying to build a comment that now Pakistan’s english speaking highly educated elite calss is also becoming Zaid Hamid’s consipiracy theorie’s victim which is not a good sign.


  17. Nadeem Farooq Paracha is a retarded charsi. I remember his articles from the 90’s. He always acted like a know it all. And I agree that Fasi Zaka is also in the same league as Paracha.


  18. This man Nadeem Farooq Paracha is lying.


  19. this guy paracha is either absolutely naive or he is financed to speak rubbish by foreign hand,we all know of. SIR ZAID U REALLY HIT HIM HARD


  20. NFP > Naive F*****g Paracha :))))


    • I suppose that was the teaching of west gotten into your head that you used such language, do the subhanallah shatanallh 70 times to be free of this sin or you will burn in hell with the like of N F****g P.

      Oops!
      missed one *, i will repeat “burn in hell with the like of N F*****g P”.


  21. hahahahahahaah……and zahid hamid comes close to the ground and nuclear bombs parachas ass…..


  22. NFP completely knock out by Zaid Hamid.


  23. Hey I thought that Fasi Zaka is a better guy?
    Sum1 said hes in the same league as Paracha please clarify.


  24. Wow @ DR. Hamid
    Actually he isnt a doctor(a phd doctor i.e)
    His followers termed him as a doctor and Ali Azmat termed him as a Hakim 🙂
    Nice 🙂


  25. Great Work,

    Zaid Hamid …. Keep up the good work.


  26. How can NFP debunk this as propaganda!

    Keep up the pivotal work Mr Hamid….we are indeboted to you.


  27. What a delusional bunch.

    When Zaid or any one talks about muslims in spain as
    something of great achievement, they forget that there is nothing else left of them in that country, so much for great civilization.
    The spain was taken back from the invaders, leave it at that.

    Also the so called “civilization” itself was mostly secular and political than an ideological one compared to what Zaid wants.

    As far as a comment on “Huge Muslim civilization”, the “Great Khilafat-e-Rashida”, wake up from the 70 fairy tales.

    After reviewing all the comments here, NFP is right on target.


    • I fail to understand how the exit of Muslims from Spain can be used as a proof of failure of Muslim civilisation. No Khilafa was perfect, but the governance system itself was built to provide justice , equality and welfare to the soceity. Zaid Hamid wants us to use those concepts in modern day governance, not something you think he wants. “Wake up from 70 fairy tales” what is that supposed to mean? You think the khilafat – e- rashida, ie the the caliphates of the first 4 caliphs was a fairy tale? and what is “70 fairy tales” i ve heard of 1001 arabian nights, but what the hell was that? And if after listening to zaid hamid, and reading all the comments here you still think NFP is right on, then its you my friend who is delusional. NFP says we should adopt good things from the west, whats wrong with adopting good things from our own history?


      • ….
        whats wrong with adopting good things from our own history? ……
        because you tried all that during Zia’s period, and look how great it turned out.
        Again, your own history is a bunch of fatoor that Iqbal and the like dreamed of, time to wake up from it. Good governance mean equal rights to all religion and race, are you ready to be governed by a hindu or christian?


  28. http://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/in-defence-of-reason/

    We should counter this article and defend our stance


    • you are right we should respond with full might, to shut his face forever, his article is full of rants and cries more than refutations as he claims. the guy is clearly hurt and confused. i suggest pkkh members to flood the blog with responses. PKKH should also prepare a detailed response. what you say admins?


  29. http://blog.dawn.com:91/dblog/2009/08/11/in-defence-of-reason/

    In defence of reason
    Posted by Nadeem F. Paracha in Featured Articles, Pakistan, Politics on 08 11th, 2009 | 3 responses
    Last week I was interviewed for a documentary on ‘Conspiracy Theorists,’ produced by DawnNews. The format of the program required two people talking about a chosen topic – a thesis/anti-thesis arrangement. The other person on the program was Mr. Zaid Hamid – the rock star among the many conspiracy theorists that are doing the rounds on mainstream television channels these days.

    Unfortunately, both of us were interviewed separately, even though I did request the producer that it should be a face-to-face set-up. The young, energetic producer of the show explained that the format of the show did not allow for such an arrangement.

    Well, in that case, Mr. Hamid continues dishing out his unchallenged monologues with only an elfin brunette seated in front of him or a former rock vocalist nodding in utter agreement (on a separate Hamid-led show on another channel).

    Taking the documentary to be a general discourse on the ins and outs of conspiracy theories in Pakistan, and not knowing what Hamid would say, my 10-minute spiel was simply a defence of democracy and common sense that I think should prevail more than demagogic paranoia in matters of social and political upheavals.

    True to form, Hamid lashed out at all the journalists and people who are calling him a conspiracy theorist. He thought such journalists are ignorant and misguided. He then rolled out the usual stuff on sinister ‘Zionist/Hindu/Western lobbies’ working against the political interests of Pakistan and Islam and referring to democracy as a violent system, etc.

    Before I use this modest space to finally answer Mr. Hamid’s claims punch by punch, I would also like to share a fraction of the tons of hate mail I started receiving the evening after the show was first aired. I have selected portions of a few such emails (out of about – and so far – 197!).

    Example one: ‘Dear Mr. Paracha, there is now no doubt that you are working for the CIA. You should be ashamed of defending Zionist lobbying and America. You should be kicked out of Pakistan and sent to Israel.’

    Example two: ‘Paracha, how can you be a journalist and have such a big house? The answer is simple:You are CIA funded journalist.’

    Example three: ‘Paracha, Zaid Hamid slapped you left, right and centre on the show, you pseudo-intellectual. There is no shortage of people like you in Pakistan. People like you have occupied important positions in our society and are given 90-95 per cent of media coverage. We are with Zaid Hamid and inshallah we will succeed.’

    Example four: ‘NFP, you are a slave to the west and working against the interests of Pakistan by attacking patriots like Zaid Hamid. It is clear you and the newspaper you write for is being funded by Israeli and Indian agencies. Better shape up or we will ship you out.’

    Example five: ‘Paracha Sahib, you have been trying to propagate your Yahoodi, Hindu and Christian masters’ rotten and obsolete ideas of ‘freedom’ and ‘secular liberalism’ and kafirana Socialism. But people like Zaid Hamid will never let Godless men like you succeed.’

    Right. Absolutely nothing surprising here. But I write this piece in response to one email that I received yesterday, from a person who claimed to be in charge of running Hamid’s personal website: ‘I dare you to challenge any of the claims made by Zaid Hamid on the show,’ he asked. Well, there is no daring involved in what I am about to do, only simple common sense.

    When Hamid says he is not anti-Hindu, he forgets that he may change the vitriol of his message for some television channels where he thinks he is more susceptible to counterargument, but the messages he has given out in the past remain in people’s minds and in cyberspace. In one of his August 14 specials he clearly labelled Hindus as a paleed nation unfit to govern. If that doesn’t make him anti-Hindu, then what does?

    He says he admires the tolerance of Muslim Spain, but it doesn’t seem to have influenced him enough to follow the example. Simply go to Hamid’s website now and check out the article by Yousaf Alamgirian whose blurb says it all: ‘sheds light on the filthy Indian culture in which homosexuality is the ingredient of Hinduism.’

    Hamid says that the western media discredits conspiracy theories because it implies it is the torchbearer of truth. But what Hamid fails to mention is that he has no original research of his own. All his work is derivative of the works of Naomi Klein, Noam Chomsky and other western dissidents who expose the hypocrisies in their own countries in a manner which on occasion stretches their argument to incredulous levels.

    But where Hamid differs from them is that the principles he borrows from them are only used for opportunistic attacks without crediting the source of his arguments. He fails to use those same principles and apply them at home. For example, when the Chinese used brutal force to kill and subdue Muslims in Xinjiang recently, there was not a word out of him. Nor did he say anything about the stolen election in Iran simply because he supports ‘Muslim Power’ and challengers to the dominance of the West. In a similar fashion, in one of Osama bin Laden’s recent video tapes, even Osama sounded like a left wing environmentalist (again derivative justifications stolen from Western dissident scholarship), rather than being a man hell-bent on destruction.

    Again, who exposed the abuses in Guantanamo? It wasn’t Hamid, but Western journalists concerned that their countries were doing something inhumane and illegal. But things like that are fictitiously ignored by him in his reign of hatred.

    Hamid says the Pakistani people have been lied to, and claims to be an exception. Well, he is just continuing the tradition in a new paradigm. He says he is exposing the secrets, by bringing out the truth. Unless Hamid has never seen the programme we both appeared in, he would have clarified that he was not a ‘Dr.’ as he was labelled in it. The duplicity is amazing. By the same coin I am taken to task for being a semi-literate just because I conceded in the programme to having a bachelor’s degree.

    Laughably, Hamid is so convinced of his own grand rhetoric that he believes his every word is followed by the CIA and FBI. He claims to have exposed a huge failing of the FBI because their most wanted description of the terrorist Osama bin Laden does not include a reference to his involvement in 9/11. Hamid then quickly added that after the airing of the programme he is sure the FBI will change it. You are welcome to visit the FBI website, because nothing of the sort happened. Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda is a suspect, but Osama has never claimed responsibility for the attacks and has only signalled his approval of the atrocity.

    Hamid says that he believes in the truth and understands the importance of reading. By that statement we would believe that his standards of evidence are quite high. Yet anyone who disagrees with him, like Hamid Mir, is maligned as a CIA agent or a ‘Zionist banker’ like Fasi Zaka (who has never worked for a bank), or an ‘anti-Pakistan western slave’ like Hasaan Nisar, and now, me.

    Yet he excludes himself from the category when he talks about his Afghan experience with Ahmad Shah Masood who openly received CIA money and did not toe the Pakistan line. Does it not qualify Hamid as CIA? If someone else had worked for Masood in Afghanistan, we wouldn’t be hard-pressed to believe that Hamid would have labelled him a CIA agent. It’s the hypocrisy of a fast-moving tongue that hopes people don’t follow the fine print.

    Despite his hatred for the Americans, on his website he is happy to accept US$ 300 for his reports. He says he wants the gold system, but, alas, is also worshipping the altar of the almighty dollar. The FBI didn’t change the charge sheet on Osama like Hamid claimed it would, but Hamid is likely to change his web page when caught cheating.

    In the show, Hamid was incensed at being called a conspiracy theorist. I wonder why, because on a number of occasions he has explained his ‘exposes’ against the many Zionist-Hindu-Western. lobbies working in the region as ‘Pakistan ke khilaf sazish’ (conspiracies against Pakistan). He often uses the word himself. But I think he has a bigger problem with the word ‘theorist.’ He wants everything that comes out of his mouth to be taken as an irrefutable ‘fact.’

    He says that since Pakistan is an Islamic nuclear state, countries like India, Russia, China, Israel, Iran and America have a huge interest in the politics of Pakistan, where these counties finance political parties and armed militant groups. He says those who suggest that we should look inwards and at ourselves to solve our socio-political and economic problems are being simplistic and naïve.

    Right. These countries have as much interest in Pakistan as we have in Afghanistan, Iran, China, and, of course, India. Thus, as much as it will be ‘simplistic’ to only look inwards in this respect, it is simply delusional to only look outwards for whatever goes wrong in Pakistan.

    Even though Hamid agrees to be conscious of the turmoil Pakistan has been facing in its politics and economics, he suddenly short-cuts his way to largely pointing the finger on outside forces and strange-sounding lobbies. Is his position that if we are left to out own devises, we’ll be fine?

    As a statement, the above sounds rather patriotic, but highly Utopian because it smacks of the kind of demagogic isolationism that countries like Albania, North Korea and Myanmar were put in, cut off from the rest of the world. Not because of any passionate display of self-reliance and independence of thought and action, but only to shield the totalitarian dictatorships that these countries have suffered from the criticism and reaction of the international community.

    Why do you think elements that react the most negatively to international and journalistic criticism on human rights issues are dictators? Wouldn’t each one of them want to isolate their countries from ever being affected by international laws and rules that are clearly not in favour of military regimes and other forms of dictatorships?

    Talking about ‘outside influence’ is nothing unique. Every country, big or small, has done it. And what’s the ‘expose’ aspect in dishing out the ‘crimes’ of certain intelligence agencies? What the American CIA and the Soviet KGB were up to during the Cold War was hardly ever a secret. Both the agencies explained their manoeuvres and proxy wars as a way to not only safeguard their respective countries and allies’ political and economic interests, they also explained these manoeuvres as a way to maintain a tussle without the use of nuclear warfare.

    What is Hamid really suggesting, especially when he attacks concepts such as democracy and then insists that Pakistan be left alone? Is he suggesting acts of self-reliance in politics and economics, or is he talking about preparing the ground for an unconditional return to military dictatorship; the sort that will not have to explain its emergence to the international community of democratic countries, or face any political and economic pressures from nations that are only logically concerned by the awkward sight of an unstable and poor country with a nuclear bomb shining menacingly in its arsenal?

    What else can be extracted from a so-called ‘security expert’ and television personality who talks about self-reliance in politics and economics, but at the same time scorns at democracy and related concepts, calling it a violent construct of the sinister ‘lobbies’ working against Islam and Pakistan?

    He says that democratic countries have been at the forefront of killing millions of people through wars. That’s true, but these countries are as guilty in this respect as were the communist countries, as much as Genghis Khan was (and he most certainly wasn’t a democrat), or as much as a number of Muslim kings and generals have been in the past.

    For argument’s sake, let’s say if Pakistan does become self-reliant in a way Hamid preaches it should, what sort of a system is he suggesting should prevail in this country? If not democracy, capitalism, socialism, or any other form of such dirty, violent Western constructs, then what?

    His answer in this case, too, is a classic example of cringing rhetoric: ‘ Islam.’ By this – if one listens to his many spiels on Islamic history – he means the Islam conceived for this country by those who would have loved to rule unchallenged until their peaceful, natural deaths, over a nation taught through their history books that democracy has nothing to do with Islam. He also suggests that what these rulers (in the shape of military dictators) are doing in the name of governance is akin to the mythical ways of the religion’s first four Caliphs as well as soldiers and generals like Saladin and Muhammad bin Qasim.

    Hamid is really a sucker for myths. He could’ve written greater ‘Islamic fiction’ than the renowned Pakistani historical fiction writer, Naseem Hijazi, who turned the lives and achievements of many historical Muslims generals into glorious literary soap operas. Well, at least he still described his books as fiction.

    Funnier still is the way Hamid continues his leaps of logic in this context by suggesting that the Muslims had for hundreds of years experienced a most enlightening, tolerant and progressive civilisation. Of course, we are all well aware of the many philosophers and scientists that Islamic civilisation generated between the seventh and thirteenth centuries. But none of these developments were achieved in isolation.

    Islamic thinkers and scientists were open to brand new ideas from ancient Greek and Latin thinkers on politics, history and science. In fact, much of what emerged as brilliance in philosophy and the science on part of these Muslims were influenced mainly by ancient Greek philosophers. What’s more, many Islamic philosophers and scientists had no qualms questioning religious dogma as well.

    None of them saw these influences as a ‘conspiracy’ to derail Islam and Muslims. So why has it become so now?

    Nadeem F. Paracha is a cultural critic and senior columnist for Dawn Newspaper and Dawn.com.

    The views expressed by this blogger and in the following reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.


  30. Following is my effort in responding to NFP, please have a look and provide feedback, sorry for advertising
    http://imtiazipakistan.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/a-response-to-in-defence-of-reason-by-nadeem-f-paracha/


    • Great job imtiazipakistan….super butt-kicking rebuttal to the charsi retard NFP’s attention seeking antics. Hats off to you man (or woman). NFP can run crying to his masters 😛


      • thanks Hina, and it is man 🙂


      • Great job brother…keep up the good work 🙂


    • Very good rebuttal, you have done an amazing job. Keep it up.


  31. ZAID HAMID ROCKS…………. PIG NADEEM PARACHA SUCKS MY D***


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  35. LOL.. now I feel sorry for this guy, he is desperate for some attention. Look, he is at it again:

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/nadeem-f-paracha-parrot-patriots

    now he includes some more personalities like Imran Khan, Mubashar Lucman etc…
    pathetic soul. Imagine if Mubashar Lucman invited NFP on his show point blank, that would be a show to watch! NFP would start crying in 5 minutes.


    • Thanks for sharing this article. It leaves no doubt in my mind that NFP is indeed a CIA supported zionist. Anyone who supports the present system of governance cannot possibly be in their right mind. Allah have mercy on this nation (Ameen)



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