Loud & Clear Episode 3: HAMID GUL
June 14, 2009Exclusive: How ISI Kept CIA At Bay As Recounted By Hamid Gul
In the third episode of PKKH’s own production in association with AhmedQuraishi.com, (Loud & Clear from Islamabad – Pakistan’s first and only Web-TV show) – Former ISI Chief Gen. Hamid Gul details how he once prevented the US ambassador from traveling to Peshawar without permission and how subsequent Pakistani rulers changed the practice, why he believes Pakistani nationalist officers within the military won’t let the outsiders and their Pakistani collaborators get their hands on our nuclear weapons. Watch him also reveal the details of a meeting he says former President Musharraf held with American emissaries five days after the coup where he gave the first of many concessions to America.
Also includes a fascinating message from Gen. Hamid Gul to the Pakistani Youth. MUST WATCH.
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Here come the man
With the look in his eye
Fed on nothing
But full of pride
Look at them go
Look at them kick
Makes you wonder how the other half live!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Here comes a man who is full of nothing
but hot air and a lot of BS.
I think our Gallant armed Forces and able General like Hamid Gul do deserve a beautiful song; the one sung by ‘Bette Midler’ of UK: “You are the Wind Beneath My Wings”
Please Link here. Keep in mind the Men and officers of our Forces and enjoy the pleasant moments;
http://www.links2love.com/love_lyrics_156.htm
welldone team PKKH & AQ
Gr8 Interview…
Pakistan Zindabad!!!!!!!
well i think the three points he mentioned about what America interests i.e de islamization, de militraization , de nueclarization are true enough.
I am PRO Musharraf but i think he has mistaken too , he allowed America to penetrate in our most important institutions, did a bit creepy thing about allowing modernization.
PLUS everyone is wrong at a certain place. Gen. Hamid Gul may be a true man but he has mistaken too… as we can see how extremism is now.. exploiting our sovereignty !
MOST importantly we must not take shadows of the political parties
disappointed to heart comments abut Musharraf :O(
Musharraf may have made mistakes but what he did for higher education in Pakistan has never been done before. Hats off to Dr. Ata-ur-Rehman who was given a free hand by someone who was ironically labeled a dictator. Anyone who allows the children of ordinary parents obtain apex degrees has to be given some credit. The number of PhDs in Pakistan has increased substantially during the six years Dr. Ata was in charge. Now the current state of the HEC speaks volumes for the indifference of the feudal mentality of the ignoramuses in power. May Allah save Pakistan (Ameen)
honestly, what hamid gul thinks or says about president musharraf means nothing. hamid gul is not exactly a paragon of virtue. its good that he considers himself a patriot. more power to him. but for him to have been criticizing president musharraf for offering ‘concessions’ to america is ridiculous and self serving. the pakistani government was never more pro america than when hamid gul was DG ISI. he tried to make it sound as if pakistan was keeping its interests in mind. what happened to those interests when the americans used us and discarded us? what were generals like hamid gul doing then? where was there analysis of the situation? the americans were very much in check during president musharrafs tenure, and this nonsense of musharraf offering them anything in terms of concessions is nothing but slander. hamid gul has had it out for musharraf since day one. i can hardly say that i even believe him when it comes to president musharraf. sorry AQ. you may look up to hamid gul, but i dont.
AOA.
True like all other dictators in the past there have been various commendable things that have been done in the era of Gen. Musharraf – I believe bringing some semblance, if not complete, to higher education in Pakistan is one of them. However, I’ve realized that for most people who disagree with Gen. Gul’s views on Gen. Musharraf there isn’t much argument of defence beyond Higher Education.
Let us for a moment, if for the sake of argument, assume that collaborating with the Americans in the ’80s was wrong. Does that make it right if we do it again and especially when it is blatantly obvious that we are the losers at the end. Those who have listened to this interview failed to note that with the capture of Afghanistan the Russians would be in our backyard. How is that and supporting an attack on a whole country to capture members of Al-Qaeda the same. In the first scenario we were pursuing our interests without American assistance of any sort for one-and-a-half years. Americans came to support us in our efforts. In the recent invasion of Afghanistan on the pretext of a “War on Terror” terms by the Americans were dictated to us. I think it was Bob Woodward who writes that a certain number of terms were given to Gen. Musharraf to accept/deny. The Americans did not have high hopes of acceptance – Gen. Musharraf accepted all, unconditionally. Reverting back to the ’80s, the Americans did turn on us. For that mistake, the Top leadership of the Army was wiped out, apart from a few exceptions. Gen. Gul as DG ISI presented 7 pieces of evidence to then PM Benazir Bhutto that pointed to the American’s role in the assassination of Gen. Zia-ul-Haq and others. She did nothing. The regime of Mullah M. Omar is Afghanistan was willing to deal with the 9/11 issue peacefully and if they were satisfied with the evidence against Bin Laden they were willing to try him under Islamic Law in a third country.
The point of all this rhetoric, the two events are miles apart. For all our education, we can only process it is as:
Americans + Pakistan + Afghanistan = Wrong
P.S. I’m surprised at Mr. Rafay Kashmiri and Mr. Hamza Khan for not have the courtesy for carrying out a proper argument. I think odd references to “the zoo” and personal attacks about “reading a book before a conversation” are the sort of statements that impede us from getting our point across.
Assalam ‘o’Alekum !
Thanks Brother Ahad
Amrerican – Pakistan + Afghanistan = Peace & Brotherhood
Excellent work guys! Hamid Gul Sir you’re our hero! We salute you!
I was in tears at the last words of Gen. Hamid Gul. I couldn’t control myself and barely hid my face from the camera. We will rise up for this great land and will not let anyone harm it. If this is the level of passion of a veteran like Hamid Gul Sahib, imagine the fire burning in the hearts of the Pakistani nation which is a young nation.
Well done Dan Qayum and the entire team of PKKH for this dedicated service for Pakistan.
Dear AQ…Hats off to you and PKKH… You guys have provided a platform to the nation to unite under one flag… Your greatest contribution to this revolution was when you introduced Zaid Hamid to the nation. Jazaak’Allah brother. History will Insha’Allah remember you as the greatest reformers.
I’m sure many were, i was.
and Ahmed you are doing a great service to the nation. We owe it to you, to the PKKH team and most of all to ZH. Really when ever this land of pure is in danger and put under the radar by the world, gems are born!
Like Iqbal once said, Zara nam ho to ye mitti bohot zarkhaez hai Saqi.
Worry not Brother ..we are here and are ready to help. Pakistan is Madina Sani and the nucleus of the Khurasan Empire, the same empire from which an army of black banners will emerge to conquer jerusalem.
Good work brother Ahmed Quraishi …keep the good work coming.
The message at the end is a great message and touches the hearts deeply. I am pleased to see Hamid Gul with you and I really appreciate your efforts to bring such nice person with great vision and prophetic message. JazakAllah.
Gr8 work AQ!
May Allah swt bless and you continue to do great work! =)
AQ,
Your responsibility spans further than reporting. We unknowns cannot put together a movement/revolution. Knowledge/awareness is the first step to lighting the fire. You are doing that part well. Second part is setting the path out for us to focus our energies. I believe Pakistan needs a new system. You have already suggested technocratic system etc. To bring that in you need a movement from the urban middle-class. Many of us are available physically, intellectually and emotionally to participate. There are few honorable men with whom you are on first name basis, Zaid Hamid and Gul to name two, who we would be ready to spill our blood for. Even Mush I feel at heart is loyal to Pakistan. He needs to accept his mistakes and come clean. HE is an asset.
Anyway, we need to mobilize, and you need to be the centre of gravity!
arrest all foriegn/local subversive agents who are
involved in terrorism, infiltration and
execute them publically
It is great to hear the words of a patriot. General Sahib is very gracious to share his wisdom and perspective with the next generation of Pakistanis. A deep belief in The Quran has made him a fearless person. His mistakes will be forgotten by history and he will be remembered for ever.
Thanks for the posting.
Farhan Khan,
” hairaan hon, keh rou’on ya piton jigar ko mein ”
higher education ? where ? for who ?
you can see the evidence inside Lahore ZOO ? or
Pagal Khanah ?? look at your PTV, GEO, perhaps
all the above three, have common denominator,
” the secular virus “, smoking hashish, drinking
alcohol and having boy/girl friends wearing jeans
speaking pinglish, is this ” higher education ”
Mushy only “allowed for ordinary children”
of poor back ground, to dream atleast, yes !!
Ph.Ds !! yes of course, living in USA
Canada, UK and Australia
Perhaps you never qualified ever for a scholarship dear brother. I am one of those very ordinary citizens of this country without a sifarish who did get an opportunity to study. Please get out of the zoo and try to look at things with an open mind… will do you a world of good…
yes, I agree with Gul, and am sure Mushy
has committed against Pakistani Children, women
and youth, he must be put on trial and be punished.
First of congrats to the Loud & Clear Teams especially AQ, Dan & Mansoor!!! You guys are doing an awesome job!!!
Secondly I salute General Hamid Gul sahib for his honest and couragous words. You are truly a Hero of every Patriotic Pakistan!!! PAKISTAN PAAINDABAD!
yes, I agree with Gul, and am sure Mushy
has committed serious crimes against Pakistani Children, women and youth, he must be put on trial and be punished.
Sister Hina,
you must be so lucky and rare, perhaps even sending your comment from ” Lahore Museum,”
next to Lahore zoo! short distance-transition !
I can, voluntarily, put you on the list, as no.1 and wait for others !!
But seriously, you think you owe it to Mushy ?
perhaps your love of imran khan and hamid gul types has blinded you. read a book and then we can have a conversation. in the meantime, if you wish i can provide you documentary evidence of what hina is saying. not only did musharraf provide us the HEC, but also the human development commission and healthcare to millions. go live in pakistan and you’ll understand what it means to be poor.
Thanks Hamza…People have to realize what HEC has done for the nation. The students who went abroad 5-6 years ago are now returning with apex degrees. This is not hearsay as I know them personally. I have personally qualified for scholarships and despite being ordinary Pakistanis we were given assistance at par with the stipends given to foreign students. May I also remind those who doubt transparency of HEC that during Benazir and Nawaz era, we used to regularly visit the ministry of education in the hope of getting scholarships but later found out that those were only awarded to the children of high ranking bureaucrats or politicians. Otherwise those scholarships were allowed to lapse but never given to people like us. We can’t do anything about people who deny the role of Dr. Ata and HEC as they are classic cases of “Sour Grapes”….
First of all I felicitate AQ, Dan Qayyum and to whole PKKH team for presenting such a great episode. God bless all of you and may he give you AJAR for all of your efforts to bring the nation on right track.
Secondly, the nation specially, youth has to hear the message of great general and should act with full sincerity and in the best interest of people.
As far General Hamid Gul’s comments regarding General Musharraf are concerned, I think General Hamid Gul is quite angery on General Musharraf because as a teacher of Musharraf, General Hamid Gul expects more from his favorite student but for some odd reasons General Musharraf failed to deliver upto the expectations of Nation in general and to Hmid gul in particular. Anyway, General Hamid gul has had family relations with General Musharraf and due to some differences in approach, they have seperated their ways. I think some people can resolve this issue and General Mehmood Ahmed is one of those.
This was such a great show. A born Pakistani, served Pakistan restlessly and believes in Pakistan soo much! when we have such GEMS, who are giving us clear cut directions and soo much motivation, we don’t need nothing else.
PS: Thanks PKKH Team for all ur efforts, Kudos! =D
once again, the audio is dodgy
Btw, scholarship schemes were introduced already
since 1958 in Pakistan,(being Karachiite, some of
my class-mates received scholarships)they all lived
next to Karachi-zoo, strange ? I was never
interested in wssting tax-payer’s money, anyway !
your third program is NOT working.. please fix the link…
–haris
Dear Haris,
The embedded link of part 3 is working. Please re-check, in case still the problem persists, try double-clicking to view the part 3 on YouTube.
It should work insha Allah- else do let us know.
PKKH Moderator
I wish Hameed Gul was the president rather than aloof zardari and musharraf, who have gotten paistan into even worse trouble. And the hilarious thing is, musharaf is goin around the world preaching democracy. These people have done nothin for Pakistan but drowned it into loans from IMF and World Bank and sold the country to the wolves and living porsch lives in their castles, whil pakistan finds it hard to generate electricity. they have sent us back to the old age. we need people like Zaid Hamid.
Masha Allah, Hamid Gul we need leaders like you may Allah(swt) protact you. Pakistan ka matlab kia La ilaha Ilallah, Takbeer Allahu Akbar
Before the 3rd show begins there was a presentation slides saying:
“Another super power made a same mistake of striking in Afghanistan and will they suffer a same loss as USSR suffered?”
Answer is:
Yes Indeed:
a) If Pak-Army would not help the US in this war.
b) It is only because of betrayal of PAK-ARMY with our mujahideens, which has resulted in a big loss of their lives and property in Afghanistan.
3) This PAK-ARMY who says that we are the soldiers of ALLAH has provided the intelligence info and given all sort of logistic support to US and NATO to crush our brothers and sisters in Afghanistan.
4) These soldiers of ALLAH kept quiet when US drone missile killed our brothers and sisters.
4) Even after getting all this support from Pak-Army, US still suffered a great loss in Afghanistan but now the PAK-ARMY is again helping US by striking its own land under the banner of crushing TTP. (Although any sincere military and political analyst would recommend that this war with TTP (foreign agents) should not be done militarily. Infact it should be done on a political front or by intelligencia). Now be ready for a back-fire from our own brothers and sisters, which would surely weak ourselves and serve the US interest in larger.
How can we have some gud feelings for this PAK-ARMY when they have done all the above mentioned blunders? We still can the tables around:
O PAK-ARMY! Do a ijtimaaiii Tauba and don’t obey the treacherous rulers and your generals (who are the agents of WEST). Turn your rifles to these henious rulers and support Muslims by engaging yourselves in true Jihad and crush Americans and NATOS polical agendas!
but the message was GREAT!
I salute such a brave man who can speak without any fear, only a man with the true love of islam and Allah can do that , Gen. Hamid Gul’s Message is really what every Pakistani needs to understand , Political Parties are just a tool for imperialists and they are not serving Pakistani Nation so the only thing that comes to my mind is why not ISI create such a system? , why not they create a revolution? even if they have to kill each and every political party leadership they should do it for the sake of the soviernighty of Pakistan but before doing so they must come up with some Leadership, and to all my fellow readers please unite ourselves and save our beloved country.
excellent interview of Gen Hamid Gul…..great man great ideology.
very nice work by Ahmad Qureshi….well done….please carry on this superb work through internet….all Pakistani who are getting your internet programes are spreading it among all Pakistani friends in Pakistan and outside Pakistan.
Gen Gul as always has been inspirational…
Where i slightly differ from him is when he feels too offended on how we are not doing as good against Americans as we gloriously did against the russians. Many geo-political situations have changed under the peculiar circumstance of mono-polarity. Ayub, Zia, Musharraf, Bhutto persuing their own diversifying visions did do a lot of excellent improvements to Pakistan besides doing some damages that are natural to happen in this imperfect world. Probably, Yes we could be more dignified in last 8 years perhaps. But dont we see that Musharraf alone or Benazir and Musharraf togather could be way way better than what we are under today “Zardari”, with no disagreement to the national opinion that NRO was a shame….
Whatever post Zardari there can be nothing other than a sweet dawn and lets be a part of the gloriouus future of Pakistan about to hatch opportunity under diversity under a new leadership… its not far..stick to the cause ,sow your seed ,wait for the spring
Hats off to GEN. HAMID GUL….u r still young.. kon kehta hai aap borhey hogayee ho. Insaan ka DIL jawan hona chahiyee, it doesnt matter u r 60 or above
Assalamualaikum to all..jab tak Hamid gul jese log hain pak main dushmanoo k aisi ki tesi and i am sure aisay buhat log hamari army main bhi hon gay beshak majority corrupt…ALlah ghaddaron ko akhrat main tu gharq karay ga hi lakin is duniya main bhi wo apna anjaam dekh len gay…Pakistan tootnay k liay nahi bana tha aur aghaz ho chuka hai aik naye pakistan ka ALlah kher karay ga inshALlah Pakistan zindabad!!! Allah ho Akbar
Dear Mansoor,
you said “Pakistan tootnay k liay nahi bana tha aur aghaz ho chuka hai aik naye pakistan ka”. Yes, Indeed we are gradually heading towards an actual, the greater Pakistan – Insha Allah. You will soon see the Pakistani forces capuring our land which is occupied by “Hindu” and “Jewish” terrorists. Allah (S.W.T) has given the IMAMAT of whole Muslim Ummah to Pakistan. We, as a Nation will lead the whole world Insha Allah. Pakistanis will be the fighters of Hazrat Mehdi and Hazrat Eesa (A.S) Insha Allah to fight against terrorist Jews and Hindus. Pakistanis should work hard in every field, prepare themselves for GHAZWATUL HIND and the battlefield of ARMAGADDON, leave the results on Allah.
Pakistan Zindabad.
Regards,
Muhammad Amir.
Great Message.. i also couldnt stop my tears in the last part of the message
Pakistan Zindabad !
Sometimes I wonder what the country could become if voices likes these come from the halls of supreme court, presidency and the prime minister’s house. I have a feeling that time in coming.
I believe there is a need to channelize this energy to a focused cause. I agree with Gul Gee that if the nation is called upon with a heartfelt, genuine, and sincere voice, they will deliver. We can pleasantly surprise the comity of nations.
Just like AQ said above, the last minutes of the broadcast brought tears to my eyes.
Congratulation to Ahmed, Rizwan, Mansor, Dan and everyone involved in the production.
The message of Hamid Gul and the interview is a revival of Ideology of Iqbal as he said:
deen hath se de kar agar aazad ho milat……hai aisi tijarat main musalman ka khasara
aur
duniya ko hai phir marka e rooh o badan paish…..tehzeeb nai phir apne darindoon ko ubhara
Allah ko pamardi e momin peh bharoosa…..iblis ko europe ki masheenon ka sahara
taqdeer e umam kia hai koi keh naheen saqta….momin ki farast ho to kafi hai ishara
These verses are from the poem “Budhe Balooch ki Nasihat Baite ko” from Allama Iqbal’s book “Armaghan e Hijaz” those who wanted to read the whole poem and you must can click the link below:
http://disna.us/AH/Ibtida/Buddhe_Bloch_Ki_Nasihat_Bete_Ke_Nam.html
Great job PKKH Team
Great interview, great job, long live Pakistan
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jun2009-daily/15-06-2009/col3.htm
hats off to L&C PKKH!
Assalam.o.Alaiqum!
i watched this interview………. and n believe me, i felt my blood pounding once again n pain in my heart for the present situation subsided by the the end of the last words of Gen. Hamid Gul. i love him for his healing magnatic or crishmatic talk. i don no whether he is all on a right path bt still i saw a natural n un biased approach in his words…….. when he said that” hm agar 10 percent hathyar b bacche… to un ki aisi ki tesi kr dein ge”. made tear rolled down my cheeks. i repeated inshaAllah after him. lets nt mourn over the faults of previous leaders bt start planning our stretagy ……..what we can giv 2 our nation. and i congratulate the team of PKKH. welldone. Allah may bless u n ur efforts.
“Pewesta reh shajar se umeed-e-bahar rakh…”
Well one of my Lecturer from Qaid-e-Azam University said, “Admire and Learn from the Morals & Message be given from individuals, not what they are…”
Hamid Gul Sahab’s message to the youth of this country is the thing we should learn, not what he did in his times. He learned from his times and circumstances & telling us not to repeat the same mistakes.
Islam is Moderate, Lets not moderate Islam.
Fi Amaan Allah.
MEDIA HAS BECOME A MONSTER, INFLUENCED,FINANCED
SUPPORTED ANN ” EDUCATED ” BY FORIEGN MAFIA & THEIR IDEOLOGIES. !!
HOW WOULD YOU TACKLE THIS DISASTER ?
Dear Brothers and Sister,
Asalam Alyqum, I wish we all would stop all this bickering and shouting foul! Allah Alam who is a Khain and watan forosh and who is on the Path of Allah like Hussain. The fact remains
Remember it is not the victory that matters, but the stand we take for. Islam is the Foundation and Pakistan is the field. What we sow today will be what we reap in the future.We have missed out on the concept of Pakistan and depend on a hand out, from out side or within. The people must change for better and all good will follow InshaAllah.
Dear Brother Ahmad Qureshi, thank you very much for such a nice Episode, i would like to Salute to General Sahib
sir Please Accept my Salute as you are a great Asset to Our Nation, Until we have Great,Soldiers Like in Our Nation Our Enemeis Wont dare to harm us any way.
May Allah Subhanna wata Allah Bless you with more Wisdom &Courge to Save Our Country.
Ameen.
waheed zaman.
Assalam o alaikum,
Well done Mr. Ahmed Qureshi sahib and thank you very much for honouring Mr. Hamid Gul for staging the host seat.
We need many people like Gen. Hamid Gul in our nation and believe me there are 8 out of 10 people who are willingly to behave and to act like him but due to no exposure and less resources there is a great passion and love for Pakistan is hidden inside the heart of so many people.
Prophet MUHAMMAD (PBUH) said some 1400 years before that “I can see that Muslims are treated very badly and they are humiliated” to that Sahab Karam asked “Why, Arent Muslims not in majority?” but Prophet MUHAMMAD (PBUH) said “Indeed Yes, they will be in majority but not unitied”. So In order to succeed we need to be stay united as a one nation and whoever will detoriate the existance of Pakistan and ISLAM we will INSHALLAH let them know that we are the nation which belongs to so many lagends including Prophet MUHAMMAD (PBUH).
Well done PKKH.
Mashallah if we have such people who have such a great spirit than who can do any harm to our country.
Syed Tasneem Riaz From Jeddah.saudi Arabia.
Dear AQ and PKHH team,
I think most of Pakistani youth is frustrated over our ill and sick leaders. Specially the two main stream parties which play muscial chair in elections and take turns. Even bilawal is under age he has been nominated for our future PM ship. Imagine living and studying in oxford. Right under/In the arms of MI6/CIA who might subliminially teaches thier own propoganda without he even noticing it. (Leave alone Directly approaching him – as it is considered very “fancy” and “Hip” thing in oxford and cambridge students to be recurited by MI6/MI5/CIA Reference Cambridge Spies try google it)
Anyways , AQ & PKHH team i would strongly suggest that do mobilize people to vote for the right candidate. Cause most of our youth crib and get sad but dont vote which eventually makes the stupid leaders elected. So no voting is another way of supporting zardari nawaz alike getting elected and become our leaders who are sellouts millions times over and every time come to power put a big board outside thier PM House “PAKISTAN FOR SALE TO HIGHEST BIDDER”.
How do we mobilize people to vote Simple – I have a plan.
Make a online movement mobilize youngsters to vote. Atleast convenince two non voter freinds of yours to vote. This chain reaction can bring revolution in this country Each person bring two voters. 4 years is enough time to convience two persons to vote.
just a suggestion and if AQ and PKHH team propogates this message by just adding two lines in their each artilce and docuementries. This reinforcement for 4 years can certainly can bring masses.
Thanks And really i wish people like Hamid Gul , Imran Khan , Mushaid Hussain, Shireen Mazri and many patriots make a team and come into power in our next election.
Ameen.
Regards and once again Great work Guys Thumbs Up.
Its a great Idea.We need some change.There must be some Educated people to come in.
Please tell me what music
Orchestra is used in the beginning of this
GREAT presentation
Sincerely
Asad
Its the OST from SAW, the movie
Dr Ayesha Siddiqa is a bloody traitor who should be hanged..
Look who’s talking
Great effort by Ahmad Qureshi and PKHH team, i think you people are really doing great job. You are bringing some light to the people of Pakistan in this gloomy circumstances. And Gen (R) Hameed Gul should be commended for being so blunt, and specially giving a guideline and hope to the youth of Pakistan.
Ahmad Qureshi and PKHH team, guys really good show and keep up the good work.
Wow, lots of information and congrats Mr. Qureshi, your programs are getting better one after another
EXCELLENT WORK PKKH team: Dan, Rizwan and all other Mujahids, hats off to you.
Hats of to our Mard-e-Mujahid Mr. Hameed Gul. This VERY informative interview has put the last nail in the coffin of my support to Musharraf.
I had started to move away from him after contemplating some of his decisions:
1) His sacking of Nawaz Shareef defies logic since Nawaz wasn’t doing bad (he might have not been a great leader but Pakistan did make some progress during his time). His military take over wasnt called for.
2) After knowing the neo-cons plans for Pakistan being devised 10 years ago, it is not hard to figure out that Musharraf’s coup was premeditated and planted by USA.
3) Musharraf’s secular stance later ONLY makes my doubts more strong. His capitualtion to US interests, his talk of making alliance with Israel, his policy of enlightened moderation, his taking measures to remove the essence of Islam from Muslims (by removing Iqbal and references of Jihad from Pakistani textbooks) all point to his faithfulness to his masters.
4) He sold Rekodiq (a place near Chagai Baluchistan) gold mine contract to a Jewish company.
5) Another proof of his connection with the masters is that he has not been eliminated. Usually the opponents of the Big Bully are not spared. Specially the ones that come in her grand goals but Musharraf was not only spared the death of pain but also awarded interview on US channels and lucrative lecture-career. He even wrote a book admitting that He was threatened by USA to cooperate on the war on terror and USA didn’t take any action. Why? Because he was her darling
6) No wonder how he approved of NRO.
Unfortunately, I had been so blinded by the development in Pakistan that I spared Musharraf any criticism but what else a person like me have done. We, Pakistani public, are never told the truths. Information is always hidden from us by the media, government etc. It is ONLY through Zaid Hamid that we have come to know of a lot of information which was hidden from us. Even he doesn’t disclose all the information. Ahmed Quraishi has been equally guilty of holding out lot of information which Pakistani Public SHOULD know. If we are kept in the loop, I can assure that no Pakistani will side with the wrong leader.
May Allah(swt) protect Pakistan. May Allah (swt) give us, Pakistanis, the courage to sacrifice our lives and properties to defend Pakistan (Inshallah)
Hina and others,
Let’s not be cultic follower of any leader. Musharraf must have done a lot of good but the harms that he has done are more profound. Look at the security problems we are faced with now. His capitulation to US demands were the result of his wrong philosophy i.e. enlightened moderation. He wanted to make muslims enlightingly moderate. What does that mean? Does that mean we ONLY follow Islam partially or whenever and however much of Islam we want to practice? No, In Islam you HAVE to follow ALL the obligatory responsibilities even on your death bed. Moderation means that you don’t be excessive about it: like fasting all 360 days of year the rest of your life even if you are sick or forcing ONLY women to observe purdah while men go around having illicit relationships with loose women
Asher,
By no means am I a follower of any political figure other than the great Mohammad Ali Jinnah. I only want to let people know what Dr. Ata has done for the country but we neer gave him enough credit
@Asher
I don’t understand why people blame him for the ‘enlightened moderation’, I mean did he force women to walk around half naked? did he force men to drink? did he force men to have illicit relationship? did he force youth to behave indecently in public? Did he force Pak dramas to bring sexuality in them? NO
He didn’t force anything on anyone when someone did this it was his OWN choice. Yes it was his mistake to allow it but Allah swt won’t spare us for doing all the wrong stuff if we say Musharraf allowed it and so we did it. Allah swt will ask us when we had a choice and knew the right from wrong than why didn’t we follow the right path as directed by Him. At the end Musharraf will be answerable for his own deeds and we for our own.
Regards!
@ Miri….very well said..
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I don’t want any progress of Pakistan at the cost of her sovereignty. Woe to such a business deal which sells our freedom, our self-respect, our religion, our security.
We all are guilty of supporting regimes which made decisions resulting in the deaths of poor people. Any drop of blood that is shed in the TTP staged bomb blast, any suicide resulting out of poverty, any discomfort faced by displacement of Swati people, we ARE responsible for that.
Let’s not be too proud of Musharraf’s achievements. Give criticism where it is due.
Miri,
your reply to Asher was not only reflecting your
naivety but a fashion nowdays in secular circles
of Pakistan to ” tolerate all ” or turn your face or leave Pakistan !! THESE MINORITY PARASITES !!!
WHO PERMITTED MUSHY TO DO ALL THOSE pervezian PERVERSITIES ?
WAS HE REPRESENTING PAKISTANI NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ?
DID HE RESPECTED PAKISTANI CONSTITUTION ?
DID HE RESPECTED PAKISTANI RELIGION ?
DID HE RESPECTED PUBLIC OPINION ?
DID HE RESPECTED PUBLIC MEDIA CODE OF PAKISTAN ?
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO TAKE HIS OWN DECISIONS ON MEDIA ?
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO REDUCE PEMRRA JURISDICTIONS ?
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO IMPOSE ON CHILDREN, ADOLESCENTS
AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO WATCH ON TAXPAYER’S MONEY ALL
SORTS OF KHURAFFAT AND CORRUPT CHEAP CIRCUS ON PAK TV.??
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO INTRODUCE BEHOODGI, BEHAYA’EI,
BESHARMI,AND SEXUAL FREEDOM, FREE LIVING,
PROMOTION OF ALCOHOLISM, AND DELINQUENCIES ?
WHO ALLOWEED HIM TO PROMOTE OFFICIALLY, PAKISTANI
WOMEN SHOULD ” FOLLOW WESTERN WOMEN ” LIKE COWS ?
AND ON TOP OF IT !!
ACCORDING TO YOU ALLAH WILL BLAME PUBLIC BECAUSE
I HAD’NT USED ” MY CHOICE ” CORRECTLY, AND THAT
MUSHY WILL BE ASKED ABOUT HIS DIRTY DEEDS ETC ETC.
MAY I KNOW WHICH MADRASSAH HAVE YOU LEARNED ALL THESE PHILOSOPHICAL ” MANTIQ ” AND ARGUMENTS TO
PROVIDE JUSTIFICATIONS GIVING MUSHY A FAVOURABLE
“STAY-ORDER” AND FREE HAND TO PROMOTE EVIL IN PAKISTANI SOCIETY. ?
To Rafay Kashmiri,
WHO PERMITTED MUSHY TO DO ALL THOSE pervezian PERVERSITIES ?
Answer) May be his bad deeds or may be something else ALLAH (SWT) knows better
WAS HE REPRESENTING PAKISTANI NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ?
Answer) As far as I know “Yes”
DID HE RESPECTED PAKISTANI CONSTITUTION ?
Answer) “Yes”
DID HE RESPECTED PAKISTANI RELIGION ?
Answer) Even if he did not respect or ISLAM because Pakistan has people belongs to different religions, it is his matter and concern with ALLAH.
DID HE RESPECTED PUBLIC OPINION ?
Answer) People if you mean to say politician then politician are more corrupted and if you mean to say common people then what were there opinions, Do the people wish to leave the Indian Rabbles caught inside Balochistan and NWFP or what do you mean to say by this.
DID HE RESPECTED PUBLIC MEDIA CODE OF PAKISTAN ?
Answer) Public Media or Media belongs to western choice of thoughts and Corrupt Zionism. Remember more than 67% of the world media belongs to Zionists and now RAW is also flourishing in it.
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO TAKE HIS OWN DECISIONS ON MEDIA ?
Answer) What decision
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO REDUCE PEMRRA JURISDICTIONS ?
Answer) Sometimes we asked for independent media and when it is given we raised questions why it is given??????
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO IMPOSE ON CHILDREN, ADOLESCENTS AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO WATCH ON TAXPAYER’S MONEY ALL SORTS OF KHURAFFAT AND CORRUPT CHEAP CIRCUS ON PAK TV.??
Answer) He did not go to every home and force the people to turn on the TV sets and watch those programs
WHO ALLOWED HIM TO INTRODUCE BEHOODGI, BEHAYA’EI,
BESHARMI,AND SEXUAL FREEDOM, FREE LIVING,
PROMOTION OF ALCOHOLISM, AND DELINQUENCIES ?
Answer) ALLAH (SWT) asked you why did you do that.
WHO ALLOWEED HIM TO PROMOTE OFFICIALLY, PAKISTANI
WOMEN SHOULD ” FOLLOW WESTERN WOMEN ” LIKE COWS ?
Answer) Bad deeds –> again this matter is his concern with ALLAH(SWT)
AND ON TOP OF IT !!
ACCORDING TO YOU ALLAH WILL BLAME PUBLIC BECAUSE
I HAD’NT USED ” MY CHOICE ” CORRECTLY, AND THAT
MUSHY WILL BE ASKED ABOUT HIS DIRTY DEEDS ETC ETC.
MAY I KNOW WHICH MADRASSAH HAVE YOU LEARNED ALL THESE PHILOSOPHICAL ” MANTIQ ” AND ARGUMENTS TO
PROVIDE JUSTIFICATIONS GIVING MUSHY A FAVOURABLE
“STAY-ORDER” AND FREE HAND TO PROMOTE EVIL IN PAKISTANI SOCIETY.?
Answer) I am sure whichver Madrassah I studied in, they taught me to live in piece and do not show anger publicly. If someone throw litter in street will you follow the person and do the same OR IF Musharraf asked you people to fell into the well or sea will you do that “NO” because there you will use your brain because there you sense danger.
Rafay
I have said before ‘Yes it was a mistake that he allowed it’ , I’m not a huge fan of Musharraf and neither am I the supporter of his ‘enlightened moderation’ idea.
There are two things – If we couldn’t remove him from power why did we choose to follow his idea? There are millions of people who didn’t follow it. And if we could remove him why didn’t we do so? Allah swt will question us about it!
Allah swt will punish him for the wrongs he did but He will punish us more for following the wrong ideas he gave us and NOT taking a stand against him.
I am just against the idea of putting ALL the blame on Mush we are to be blamed partially as well.
Sahih Bukhari – Volume 9, Book 89, Number 258:
Narrated ‘Abdullah:
The Prophet said, “A Muslim has to listen to and obey (the order of his ruler) whether he likes it or not, as long as his orders involve not one in disobedience (to Allah), but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed one should NOT listen to it or obey it.
This guy Hamid Gul talks big. He was so disappointed when USA put him on the terrorist list and did not give him US visa to visit USA. He is also responsible in bringing a bad name to Pakistan by training terrorists in Pakistan to go out and perform terrorisum in other countries. Instead of putting him in the Hall of Shame you are making him out to be a Hero. That tells a lot about you….
@SK
Aren’t Indians training terrorists in Afghanistan and sending them over to Pak, didn’t your army train LTTE during the era of Indira Gandhi? Wasn’t RAW responsible for the break up of Pak? You talk as if your government and intelligence agency is full of saints. When you put up all of them in the ‘Hall of shame’ we’ll do it as well!
Ahmed, I do admire Gen. Hamid Gul’s patriotism but with all due respect I think his is kinda out of sync now.
He basically build this fictional world in his time with that wrongefully glorified Jihad in 80s. Yes the fighters from around the world did come with a zeal to join a Jihad, however most of the Afghan leaders then were simply fighting for money.
What kind of Jihad Gulbadin Hekmatyar was fighting when after the Soviet withdrawl, he fired every single rocket he had on Kabul?
Why did Ahmed Shah Masood unilaterally signed a peace deal with the Russians when saw that ISI was favoring Pushtuns over Tajiks?
These are precisly the reasons for the emergence of Taliban. Too bad Mr. Hamid Gul is still kind of living in that world and refusing to see the ground realities of present world. Its really easy for him to talk in hindsight about his time when US genuinly needed Pakistan against the USSR compared to the US that President Musharraf had to face. You know pretty well that US was itching to bomb someone after 911 and if it werent for Musharraf, the bombs which fell on Tora Bora would have fallen on Pakistani cities. He talks about our nukes. Who does he suggest we would have bombed then? Look at US now, they are in serious trouble in Afghanistan and given an opportunity will surely exit. Musharraf has even lured in the Indians into Afghanistan and we all know well what will happen to them once their new found friend leaves them incharge of Afghanistan.
He sank pretty low when he accused Musharraf of corruption just because he bought an apartment on edgeware road. He thinks if he is an ex-DGISI, he knows the real-estate in London as well. Well just for the record, a two bedroom apartment on edgeware road during the best of times is somewhere between 200,000 to 300,000 pounds which Mr. Gul quoted about a million. Being a 3 star general he knows it well that a Pakistan Army General has that kind of well-deserved money by the end of their service and Musharraf was 4 star. He didn’t think about this when he was befriending Nawaz, who happens to have 6 apartments on Parklane Road, London. Now those apartments do go upto 5 to 6 million. Even when you told him that Musharraf is making that kind of money through his lectures, he stooped even lower by accusing him of getting money from the Jewish lobby. What is he suggesting? Is the Jewish lobby paying Musharraf to travel around the world to protect and project a better perception of Pakistan Army and ISI?
I had great respect for Gen. Hamid Gul, but after this interview, I was extremely disappointed.
Its always easy to talk big when you don’t have to make big decisions.
Well said Ajan. exactly my sentiments. I know
Mr. Gul from his days in Multan and believe me
he is no angel! Now a days he is pretending to be
a very strong oponent of West especially USA,
but in his days in ISI and during Afghan war, he
was not only was their strong ally but also a very
obedient servant. some times cia or mossad creat
these characters, who on the surface pretend to be
the great enemies of the west but internaly they
are working on a different agenda. strangly enough
most of the top actors from Pakistan side who were
involved in Afghan-ussr were eliminated in a plan
crash but the good General with all his rehtric
against US is still waliking and talking and with the exception of one occasion, can easily get a
visa to USA, a rare luxury for the common people of Pakistan. I lived in US (Atlanta Georgia) for
number of years and had a chance to listen to Mr.Gul in person. As far as corruption goes! he
needs to check his own pockets before he could open his damn mouth about others. He tried to blame President musharraf for corruption and buying an apartment in london but
when AQ talked about President Musharraf’s lectures and the
kind of money he is making from those lectures
Mr. Gul tried to twist it with the Jewish involment, shame on you!Hameed Gul, AQ please prepare
your self for these interviews, I am so diappointed, you looked so weak in this episode.
To Hina,
If Dr Ata has done a lot of good for education, then all praises be to him. I am not the kind of person who will not give due credit where it deserves. Same goes to Musharraf. I don’t hate him and don’t believe he is the reason for the downfall of Pakistan. I do believe now that decisions which he thought were right have actually turned out to be wrong. I don’t blame him for allowing US in but I blame him for not negotiating it properly. As Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul say “there were no rules of engagement defined”. Like how much or what we will do.
To Mir, although we are responsible for our actions ut rulers have a set of responsibility as a whole. He cherished Kamal Ata turk’s philosophies. Looking at the history of Turkey, I only see Ata Turk as the hater of Islam. He removed any semblence of religion from Turkey. Mualvis forced to wear three piece suit in the mosque, Azan is given in Turkish language, Turkish was reinvented with Roman letters and so forth. The idea that Islam is not synonym with progress is very sickening. If it was true, we wouldn’t have been able to create a modern seat of learning in Al-Andulacia (spain). Science and technology flourished at that time along with religion. So when it is possible to be modern and religious simultaneously then, it is also possible now.
Asher
I hope you meant ‘Miri’ and not ‘Mir’ =)
I agree with what you have said about Islam 100% … my point is which I have mentioned ‘twice’ is not putting ALL the blame on Mush. The ‘enlightened moderation’ started years ago probably if the religious scholars and all the people had taken a stand against it than our people wouldn’t have gone so far.
Take the example of Iran, the Iranians were against the idea of, I would call it ‘westernising’ Iran by Mohammad Reza Pehlavi, all the things which are happening in Pakistan were happening in Iran in the 70’s. A religious leader stood up, took a stand by the name of Ayatollah Khomeini, he was forced to live in exile but that didn’t stop him from achieving his motive. And finally in 1979 the great Iran revolution took place which is in front of everyone. The Iranians finished off 2500 years of continuous monarchy and we weren’t able to stop a democratic leader who was in power for less than a decade!
Salaam great interview AQ, Please make it possible for 1000 more brothers like you to saturate the media. Hamid Gul is a legend, and we love to hear from him.
Mohammed Ali shan or “Miri”
your answers
1.may be and may be nots, escaping accountability !
citzens are not suppose to know anything !
2.absolutely wrong, he was never elected, he had
stolen and usurped power,unIslamically,illegally,
unconsitutionally,against even military formal
regulations and against any civic rights !
3.again wrong, he simply trampled and insulted Pak
constitution entirely, sorry, stupid reply !
4.Pakistan’s constituional religion is Islam, sorry
again, your’s is misguiding answer !
5.you try to be dodgey , but Mushy imposed his own
personal opinion based on his priorities,
fulfilling foreign agenda !what are u talking ?
6.& 7.He openly trampled also media code, against
constitution ! was he mandated from NA to create
50 particular ” free channels ” ?
8.Very naive answer, Pak constitution has public
order required regulations and articles.
9.again the answer is zero, ” Pemra”(censor) was
functioning according to contitution one way or
the other, who permitted him to alter ?
10.11.12 you are cleverly answering in secular
way but using religiou or mystic obscurantism in
ending your arguments.
Your position reg. ” on top of it ” is ridiculous
and inacceptable. the man is not only a criminal to
the existing constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, but also a flaggrant trampler of Quranic injunctions,rules,orders, and instructions, but there, you suggest to refer all to Baba Bulleh shah ? you even quote a hadith contradicting your own arguments.
Look at Dr Ata-ur-Rehman, he received all the praises and “bisharat of jannat” here on this blog, why ? so decisively, precipitating for good words but on mushy ! malgré, all negatively proved events, ” we simply don’t know, Allah swt will dicide for him ” I wonder if you have any desire to
have even an Islamic country or just another
holy-see shrine sort of Gaddi.?
Why don’t you let Allah swt decide for Dr Ata as well ? For God’s sake, try to understand our mothers children, youth and men have been butchered annihilated,in afghanistan, Fata & NWFP by the
privileged unconditional collaboration of this
criminal called Mushy, don’t you think we have
already paid the heaviest price for our part of
that maudite ” blame” ?? but he is free, spreading
his gospel secular truth to Brits, lecturing them
on ” amr-e-bil-ma’aruf wa nahin anal-munkar ” ??
2.7 millions of afghan brother and sister, children
annihilated, by whom ???
5000 killed uptill now in Fata NWFP. by secular justice pathfinders Takfiris and tehrikis and sufi tribes of Malakand.
Rafay,
I was only talking about the ‘enlightened moderation’ and I have repeated my point ‘thrice’ Thank you!
We Love You General…
Allah Bless You..
Miri,
my observations on your reply to Asher !
your example of Iran is incongruous, as it does not
match with Islamic Republic of Pakistan which had &
has full fledged CONSTITUTION democratically given,
approved by all existing fiqhas ” Amma-tun-naas”.
Iranian Monarchial dictatorship was installed
by US and had expected qualities:
Corrupt, stealing riches, Injustice, unequality, absence of social securities,& Equal Rights for all, educational opportunities only for selective seculars.
Monopoly of particular liberal religious fanatics
group and conspirators of that country who were
given total power and were allied with Shah,
collaborating with Israel and played intermidiary
between Mossad & newly created shah’s personal
” Sawak ” trained entirely by Mossad, who killed thousands of political prisoners in torture cells, every year.
Shah wanted non of those above reforms, but only
culturally and morally westernized, alcoholic,
moral-free society ” the roshankhayyals” robots.
He ” brought the green revolution ” fraudulantly,
distributing land-reformed Banjar lands to stupid
farmers.
Do you see any difference between
Shah Reza Pehlavi,
Shah Musharraff and
Shah Zardari ?
Do we have to wait for a rich Mullah to bring our Shah to accounts and punish him ? Btw, we have our present Shah at the moment, arrived in Brussels to make his routine collect to inject money in
“Benazir charity funds” walet of his pocket.
I don’t know which ” democratic Leader ” you
alluded at, who was in power less than a decade !
Rafay,
My bad ‘not’ democratic but a dictator who was in power for less than a decade, Secondly my point in comparing with Iran was about standing up against something you oppose. People didn’t say ‘anything’ to Musharraf, and started following his enlightened moderation blindly and probably this is the reason why he thought what he was doing was right and he was giving so called freedom to people of Pak.
Why do you blame everything on him? We are to be blamed as well. God helps those who help themselves, for a change to take place ‘we’ need to stand up first as long as we keep sitting around like we currently our every now or than more musharrafs and zardaris are gonna keep popping up in fact bilawal is getting ready, sadly what I saw on TV was shocking when people came and said zardari isn’t good but we will vote for bilawal he will be good like his mother.
If we don’t stand up which is even why these corrupt leaders keep coming back and forth, how else do you suppose would we be able to bring these leaders accountable for there actions?
Ajan
your comment of 18th @ 12.02am
to Ahmed (salamahoo)
Afghan jihad against Russians had all its ingredients well justified and equipped, shared by
all, there was a kind of absolute solidarity among entire muslim world long before US evil jumping in.
Ahmed Shah mehsoud, Rabbani, Gulbadin, etc all
played their role. apart from the Warlords who existed since 2000 years,we missed their so wanted extinction !!
The vulgar fitnah of Talibans was a pure product of JUI Fazlu & Sami-ul-Haq’s savage looters & thugs, hired for buying and selling humans, trained by professional terrorists. Mullah Sufi,sales agent
of young mujahids from Karachi, Lahore, Multan,
hyderabad ages 19 to 23 about five thousands, half
of them joined Shah Mehsood and other half finished in 6 containers, buried around Qandhar and 600 of them machine-guned while inside the container, work of Rashid Dostum,disputed over money deal with Sufi !! There are 2.657 parents in Pakistan looking for their young sons and want sufi’s head !!!
Remember, 1994, bb’s PP wanted to win elections,
offered Governorship to Fazulu of Jui,
was accepted by Fazulu, who voted for BB ! ok,
Clinton approved ! explanation given by BB’s
spokesman, “these are only students of madressah ”
(as if Clinton knew what a madressah is )recruited
to do some “manual work” in afghanistan ! ha ha ha
the only condition from Fazulu, in reality was
that he be allowed to send ” Talibs” to afghanistan (to destroy all mujahideen’s efforts,grabbing all power))
a beautifull punjabi kahawat which says :
” pind wasseya nehin, te uchakkay pelon tayyar ”
It was BB’s entire consent and Clintons approval
that these Talibs were allowed in hords to enter
Afghanistan and Destroy everything !!
Today, Afghanistan’s 60% miseries are due to JUI Fazulu, Sami & Co they must be brought to a TRIAL.
The sacred word of JIHAD is maligned by them.
These sauday-bazz mullah-e-suoo, jahanamis !!
I will be delighted to have comments from Gul&Zaid on above events.
Totally uninformed post regarding the raise of Taliban in Afghanistan. Taliban were not aliens nor were they bron in 1994/5. If you watch the interview of Gel Gul carefully then you can clearly hear him saying that you can not create anything in Afghanistan. So, Taliban were not the creation of Molvi Fazlur-Rehman or Sami-ul-Haq or anyone else’s.
Afghan Taliban are the offspring of Afghan Mujahedeens who fought Afghan Jihad from 1978 to 1989. Taliban were actually a juction of various Afghan Jihadi groups including people from Hizb-e-Wahdat of Molvi Younus Khalis, Hizb-e-Islami of Hikmatyar, Jamiat-e-Islami of Rabbani and other Jihadi commanders. So, Taliban were not a creation of any group or organization instead they are the creation of Afghan dynamics and chaos. Afghan Taliban had restored peace in Afghanistan, flushed the opium cultivation and trade from Afghanistan.
As far as TTP’s issue is concerned, it has been written by many people that they are not Taliban even Local Pakhtoons of Tribal areas claim that they are not Taliban, they are actually foriegn assets fighting against Pakistan and because of this reason they are now fully co-operating with Pakistan Army to eliminate these Israeli-Indian funded terrorists.
Miri,
when you are so powerful as Mushy and Zardari
then why you should’nt be totally responsible ?
All arbaab-e-Iqtidaars are subjected total responsibility,
not only according to Islamic Law, even Pak
consitituion can impeach Mushy or Zardari and if
proved criminal, punish on the spot. And is
an Internationally written constitutional engagement from all Republics and States members of UN with the exception of UK and Israel which have no written constitution.
The entire blame should be awarded to
responsibles. We have to learn to live with it !
Perhaps we should wind up this debate here, someone
might give his/her opinion.
cheers
Fine.
Regards!
I believe that this was a great interview and I hope that we all have learned a valuable history lesson to correct our views. I hope that after this interview, AQ will stop supporting Musharraf and Zaid Hamid will stop posting news/videos related to Musharraf. A person who loves himself more than his country and countrymen can’t be trusted. All those people on this blog who are supporting Musharraf or his policies are either insane or are completely lost.
Dear All,
Time is running out, everything is clear and we have to think what we can do practically for Pakistan. Stop wasting your time in fighting and blaming each others, start using your brains to build up the strategy for building and recovery of Pakistan. Everything has to be cleared to you by now. Its time to take action before its too late.
extremely disappointed to see this crook with you Ahmed, 100 choohay khaa kay billi haj ko chali, this verbatim suites to this self appointed intellectual, please donot portray Ratib khoars of Mian Nawaz shareef as Heroes of the Nation. These are responsible for the aftermath of Afghan Jehad in Pakistan, and this person hameed gul is pro Taliban extremist. is there any betterment expected from extremely biased punjabi nationalist and relegious fanatic Hameed gul type person, AQ Really disappointed to see this person with you, i have been yours and zaid hamid’s fan since long and expected something new from you, if Hameed gul is the ideology of Zaid Hamid then i am sorry a large masses of country disagree with you.
I request management of Loud and clear and AQ to interview honorable General Pervaiz Musharraf and give his version too in response of all the allegation labelled against him by this self appointed intellectual.
I strongly show my displeasure to that segment of interview, where Mr. Hamid Gul did comment too negative on President Musharraf. How come he dare to call him CORRUPT. Mr. Hamid has full liberty to critise President Musharraf on any of his actions and decisions. Rightly so, but it seems so cheap to call a gentleman corrupt so easily. I protest on his low rated argument that President Musharraf bought a flat in UK, hence he is corrupt. Its so senseless.
I request “Loud & Clear team” to manage sitting with President Musharraf as well. Its so unjust with him that every one comes on Tv or Internet and start blaming President Musharraf of every wrong. Musharraf sahab did secure national interests by all the covert operations of pakistan armed forces and ISI. In National interests, he remains silent. Mr. Musharraf has a character to bear with all criticism on him own, even when based on fake and biased propaganda against him. He must be given full opportunity to speak in his defence.
Regards,
http://longliveMusharraf.wordpress.com
Hameed Gul thinks he is some great general but it was because of his support of Taliban that we see our selves in the mess today and he destroyed democracy once or twice. The media supports people who abuse america whole heartedly but infact history has shown those people who criticize a certain party are actually the agents of that party. This forum should interview General Musharraf as well. It has become a fashion to criticize Musharraf for everything, hard open questions need to be put forward. Musharraf is blamed across both extremes. One side says he was some american agent the other side says he played a double game and fooled the americans what is the truth. Of course he made alot of blunders we are not saying he was great. But its a different thing saying stuff from the comfort of your sitting room when you are in power the reality is different. Once again AQ please interview Musharraf, he will let you interview him I am sure.
this i one of the best program i have ever watched…
great work ahmed quraishi.
MR HAMAD GUL , WHAT A LOVELY MAN AND WHAT A YOUNG MAN AS WELL.
THIS IS NO DOUBET TO SAY THAT PAKISTANI YOUTH IS ALIVE ,AND I CAN DEFINATELY SAY THAT PAKISTANI RETIRED OFFICERS ARE ALSO STILL ALIVE.
LETS ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS PROMIS THIS ,IF SOME ONE WILL EVER TRY TO LOOK AT PAKISTAN WITH A BAD INTENTION WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM.
Aamin InshaAllah
Simply B U T FULL , Today we need to unite, not to play blame game. despite of all the errors, faults, mistakes etc. etc. For a Batter Future, and to fulfill the Dream and Destiny of a Great PAKISTAN. May Almighty ALLAH KAREEM Bestow All of HIS BLESSINGS on our Beloved Nation and the People who are Enlightening us with the Facts and trying to make a paradigm shift in a corrective way. May ALLAH KAREEM BLESS You All and give the insight of the Truth.
Just check out Part 4 (somewhere around the 8th minute) when Gen. Sb. refers to Sufi Mohd as “Bechara Sufi” as if he is some naive bumpkin who is not aware of his actions….forgetting that the same Sufi is responsible for the slaughter of 1000+ paki youths when he lured them into Afghanistan, and is responsible for the present situation as well when he failed to abide by the peace treaty….So Gen Sb. thinks he is the all-knowing intellectual when he so callously calls him “Bechara Sufi”:….I wonder if he would still refer him as “Bechara Sufi” had his own son was lured into all this….
Also to set the record straight….Gen. Sb. is wrongly perceived as the architect of the Afghan War…and he is wrongfully being portrayed as such as the architects were the Late Gen Zia Sb. and Late Gen Akhtar Abdul Rehman….Gen Hameed at the time was an executor who ably did his job no doubt…
Gen. Musharraf, like hammed gul is also a person, who like any other human has weaknesses and made mistakes (like any other leader in history) but in my humble opinion (no matter how much i would disagree with Gen Mush) he has given more to the country than any of the other “political lot” put together……..i dont say this…the statistics say this…
I would appeal to all and sundry to start thinkign rationally and stop labeling people as either “Totally Good” or “Totally Bad”, totally correct” or “totally wrong”…as no one is either of the two….just assess the worth of a person on the basis of what he has delivered in his capacity to Pakistan…stop looking outwardly for heroes and mehdis and look for a hero … a mehdi..in our own inner selves….
Ahmed Qureshi , ur a great gift to Pakistan hats off, those last minutes were too touchy , i was hiding my face when i was watching this interview with my family. Pakistan zindabad
hi
ahmed qureshi
no u should have a long interview with musharraf bcoz of the allegations by hamid gul bcoz every one who is out of power go beyond his statement & thoughts why u didnt ask hamid gul he was meeting & supporting usa then CIA why he allowed to open up a headquarter in islambad & now he speaks like a politician that tommorow all will be allright as if one day we will get up in the morning dreaming of a bad whole night & all will be ok if he is so patriotic then why he dint met with musharraf when he was called why he kept his egho waiting for ur rply
ahmed quershi
There was a good discussion on the same topic published in The Pakistani Spectators and it generated some 70 comments. A very interesting discussion; I thought that it be referred here also for the readers. Please link:
http://www.pakspectator.com/hamid-gul-nothing-but-the-truth/
Mr Quraishi you are doing very well keep it up.
we are with you don,t think you are alone .
and Gen. Gul we trust you so keep it up and whenever you,ll speak anything wrong history will not forgive you.
you are a true man as i think but u have a black spot on your white career and that is what you were helping and promoting the TALIBAN.
PAKISTAN ZINDA BAAAD
I JUST WANNA SAY ABOUT PRESIDENT GEN.MUSHARAFF THAT HE IS A HERO.
HE HAS DONE A LOT FOR PAKISTAN.
EVERY PERSON HAS DONE SUM GOOD AND SUM BAD THINGS.
GEN.HAMEED HAS ALSO DONE SUM MISTAKES BUT WE DON,T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM.
MUSHARAFF IS A HERO.
Great programe. General sb is man of honour, dignity and sovereignty. We anxiously need his type of people.Apart, Very rightly said by General Gul sb, that we are the nation who should/must give to others not the vice versa.
Its a through disapointment for me personally how can ahmed quraishi sink to the level of making Former President Musharaf comparable with this thug and cheat the policies of whom we are experienceing now.
It is this Hamid Gul and his assets in the Punjab that has destroyed Pakistan who ever came pakistan way was discredited by this same lobby that first balmes him as a traitor, then Islam. and to tell this hamid gul 99% of the army personel serving under him and Zia hated him. He is the devil for which pakistans moderate society turned in to gun tonting islamizied mafia of Mullahs. His wordings sound still the same war war and just war.
Then he talks about iran, that sits on the strait of hormuz has oil and is striking capacity of all the arab capitals.
As for people of iran they hate the Khomanei and his stoges like ahmadinejad.
What hurts me more is that Musharaf was the only president that was youth orientied dictators never make the media free and promote education in the country. and yes the taliban in afghanistan were bad and worst animals, they were never friendly with us they bombed the statues of Buddah, they were commiting suicide bombings even before 9/11 they were involved in slaughtering shia muslims both on pakistan and afghanistan.
Then he says musharaf was corrupt what proof does he have any records on from where he got his money to buy the appartment may be its on istallments maybe his brother has financed it may be his sons has financed it. May be its the money from the lectures.
Its only that musharaf struck a deal with PPP and anti establishment party and his sons Nawaz and Shahbaz were rejected that he spits venom. i want to ask him under which table was he sitting when musharaf was fighting on siachen glacier for Pakistan. This man may be Punjabiotic Not Patriotic.
Best Regards
Where was he during the last 8 years when the media channels were gearing up their propaganda machine against Musharraf? Why are people speaking out when they know Musharraf can’t speak out until November? I call this cowardice. People should interview the man himself. I am seriously getting tired of people bringing up Musharraf in their interviews and blaming him for the problems in Pakistan today. Musharraf may have made mistakes but it is redundant to comment on people who have been put under a deal of silence until November. I wonder if all these so called patriots will speak out when the deadline finishes. The bragging in this interview was also despicable. Pakistan’s problems result from silence from the masses against those who continue to oppress the people today and if mistakes were made in Musharrafs tenure then where were all these people then when their criticism was needed? Why comment after it where these kind of comments don’t help the nation one bit.
Rightly said Sabeen
If people wonder about what deadline im referring to then watch Lucman’s interview with Musharraf on the Point Blank show on express news.
Honestly, I felt his words were bogus….custom made to speak by traitors to once again malign and demean President Musharraf.
Why bark now after 9 years when he knew all this…there was freedom of speech these past 9 years, no person or media was being punished to propagate against Musharraf, so he could have spoken up before….but of course he wouldn’t have gotten any ‘rewards’ for speaking before since his favorite corrupted leaders were not in the country ruling…!
He talks of Musharraf’s corruption why can’t he speak of BB, Zardari and Nawaz Sharif’s corruption that destroyed and keeps destroying the country and keep building personal empires with the tax-payers money.
Well Mr. Hamid Gul, despite of all this we supporters will still support President Musharraf and its ppl like you will work for momentary gains rather than actually be true to the country.
Pakistan First….
(As Allama Iqbal said it and Musharraf only implemented it)
Thank you.
Dear A.Q. i was one of the few people who used to trust your word right from the article the plan to topple pakistani military.
I still cant believe it that one day you will also become part of the same. What hamid gul says is patriotic, why dint you ask him a couple of these questions.
Who created MQM to counter PPP in the sindh
Who created IJI to make his sons nawaz and shahbaz alive.
Who created the menace of drug and gun culture fused with extreamism in pakistan the fruits of which we are eating right now.
why is he not bent upon exposing some corruption of the rabies infected dogs of zia namely Nawaz and Shahbaz.
How much time it took him to get his transport service Varan Express back on track the just 5 days after the Punjab government was formed.
Again ahmed you have disapointed a lot of your hardcore fans it was not me but you who was writting musharaf is not a traitor rather people are made to believe that so that he can be removed
but in this interview hamid gul even went to the extent of calling him an israeli or the words bloody jew agent and you kept quite dint you ask him when he was supplying israeli ammo to mujahideen in afghanistan. where was his islam and jihad then.
Best Regards
Dear Omer, let me clarify something about President Musharraf fromt the outset.
The only person responsible for bringing the Sharif brothers, who are failed politicians without a doubt, back to power is President Musharraf himself. He ditched well wishers like me and you and countless others and secretly went to Abu Dhabi to meet BB to share power with her when he didn’t even HAVE TO. He was all powerful. Yet he brought his own downfall. Make no mistake about it. His downfall came because he trusted the Americans too much.
In the end, despite all sincere advice and despite knowing how disastrous this would be, President Musharraf left Zardari in power and even privately defended Zardari when and if someone told him that Zardari would come after him later.
So my anger at how President Musharraf destroyed all his good work is tremendous. It was a golden opportunity that was lost.
Now let’s come to Gen. Gul’s interview. I will not go as far calling Mr. Musharraf a Jew boy. And I am confident that President Musharraf is a good and proud Pakistani and there are many occasions where he proved that. But there is no question that President Musharraf showed weakness before the Americans, not as much after 9/11 but more actually later, from 2006 and until his unceremonious exit, to the extent that Shimon Perez did actually say publicly that he never thought he’d ever go to bed someday praying for the safety of the President of Pakistan. Normally, I wouldn’t find anything wrong or sinister in this statement. But I do only because I know that President Musharraf did give the Americans too many concessions that he shouldn’t have so much so that the Americans and maybe the Israelis came to see him as ‘their man’ in Pakistan. [The Zardari government has gone even more].
The real disturbing thing for me is that when President Musharraf imposed emergency in Nov. 2007, he was told about the strong circumstantial evidence that the Americans, or at least the CIA, has stabbed us in the back and is directly and indirectly supporting multiple insurgencies against Pakistan. President Musharraf did get tough with the Americans for a few weeks after the emergency but then reverted back to faithfully complete that deal he made with BB when he had a chance to wiggle out of it.
AS for your point on creating the MQM, IJI and the Sharif brothers, we can debate how right or wrong those moves were but please remember that these steps looked fine at that time. Everyone is wiser in hindsight.
I agree with your last point on Gen. Gul’s suspected soft corner for the Sharif brothers but you are reading too much into it. Gen. Gul most probably sees the Sharifs as the lesser of the two evils for the time being, the other evil being Zardari. But Gen. Gul made no exceptions in criticizing the family-led political parties including PML-N in the same interview. You’re also right in your points about Gen. Gul’s private transportation business.
But this interview was not about questioning Gen. Gul on Sharif brothers or MQM and IJI. This was about something bigger, about intelligence and the Americans, where Gen. Gul holds s a treasure trove of information and where his views are very Pakistani nationalist. I wasn’t doing a Jawab Deh here or focusing on the person of Gen. Gul to go over his personal record.
In the end, remember this: This is about Pakistan, not about Gen. Gul or Gen. Musharraf. Both are respectable to me and I don’t doubt their nationalism and patriotism. But you and I have the right to question some of the actions that both of them took during the course of their career. The purpose is to strengthen Pakistan by avoiding these mistakes in the future. The purpose is not to get personal. Gen. Gul does get personal when it comes to Musharraf. But I leave that between the two of them since they go a long way back.
One note Ahmed, I am sure you must have seen interview of Gen. Gul on Azfar and Mani Show on AAG TV.
In that show, he admitted that he (or rather ISI) created IJI (Islami Jamhori Ittehad) to bring a balance in Pakistani political scenario but SPECIFICALLY refused creating MQM (this statement is on record).
If you don’t like MQM, that’s a separate matter and always ready to dump the garbage on MQM – as majority of people are, but the man (Gen. Gul) himself is refusing it.
This is a vile, disgusting and repulsive interview. AQ, you should be ashamed of yourself.
@Hell Borne: MQM is a great concept. But I strongly believe that parties such as MQM, JSQM, ANP, and politicians like Mohammed Ali Durrani and PMLN who are now using the so-called ‘Punjab card’ on the water issue, all of these people need to be banned from using ethnicity or sectarianism as a valid basis for participation in politics. No party should be licensed by the Election Commission of Pakistan if the party’s creation and manifesto is based ont ethnicity/language/sect.
MQM’s good concept of middle class power has been eclypsed by its habitual resort to violence. And MQM is not alone in this. PPP, ANP, JI, PMLQ, PMLN and almost everyone else maintains private secret and armed militias.
I never accused Gen. Gul of creating MQM. This point wasn’t even discussed, so I am surprised at some of our friends here commenting without watching the show.
I also believe that MQM wasn’t created by intelligence agencies. Sure, the government of Shaheed Gen. Ziaul Haq did extend indirect support to MQM in the 1980s mainly to counter PPP. But that is different to claiming that MQM was created by agencies, which is absurd.
Dear AQ atleast you answered me thats great,
Brother ahmed believe me i belong to a family who have written history, sacrificed for pakistan from my great great grandfather who rebeled against the british in 1847 to 47 when my grand father rebeled against the british and saved what is now called azad kashmir. My father also served in the military for some time until he his cousins and his brother in laws were punished refusing to fire on innocent youths in karachi in the name of MQM. Ask general how loyal was he when he accuses others do you remember General Akhter Abdul Rehman, along with hamid gul they were never patriotic they were loyal to thier master ZIA they had no vision they cheered when Bhutto was hanged. and made an image laden with propoganda against the Bhutto Dynasty and Peoples party MQM and others just to promote their own style of political objectibves the only fault of musharaf was not america or its binding it was that musharaf severly damaged the Religious Political Lobby of Pakistan and changed the mindset of the people of Pakistan to put their country first and foremost as Hamid gul corrupted the youth of pakistan on islam and jihad as an offence rather than defence whose dictates was he blindly following wasnt that the USA agenda. and believe me if CIA had no penetration in Pakistan then please ask this man gul how could they blow up the cheifs plane in the air how could they create panic at ojari camp. Musharaf chose to side with the PPP when the media had made him a weak leader and he was not all that powerful. Hamid gul is just angry and spits fire becz his other two sons Rashid and Aziz ghazi were not allowed to escape by the army. Everyone knew what was comming his sons got killed and he was angry as they were his creation.
Musharaf was bitten by PPPP and not the americans just as Q league saved itself on the shoulders of Musharaf. remember he took a plane to saudi arabia first to convince the sharif brothers to copperate otherwise pakistan is doomed and the lesser evil refused. with no option left he was made to suffer and finally BB played the game she had waited for such a long time.
and today CIA says Mush was playing a double game they even went to the extent of saying under their nooses in complete secrecy mush. provided pakistan with a second strike capability and now even washington is confused about the actual depth of pakistans neclear arsenal. Why dint you raise this with hamid gul. I tell you ahmed my grandfather who was also one of the founders of Pakistani journalism Mr. Salim Alvi wrote a book Pakistan illusions and Reality.(observations of a journalist). read it and find out how zia, faiz ali chisti, Akhter abdur rehman, and hamid gul made the ground for the mess pakistan is in today they replaced nationalism with fanaticism, replaced the youth of pakistan with guns instead of pens and always played the cards who is with PPP is anti islam and pakistan.
I have no love for hamid gul its becuase of his dirty policies back in the 80s. what ever musharaf achieved for pakistan was whiped away by his faithfuls in a couple of years. Time will prove it inshahAllah and i wait for the day when hamid gul will once again accuse another leader of being a traitor.
Army is a lot better without the likes of these people they are the ones who destroyed army as an institution. and no one in the armys command is pro hamid gul to tell you the truth even at the jawan level they feel he had no loyalty with the institution. they regard him as an officer that hides under the table when the sirens ring.
they all know who created the menace that they are fighting for today.
and please ahmed make a documentary on the units that fought in kargil ask them how they were and what happened afterwards when the call of retreat was signalled and what happened to them when they came out of their posts going back. please ask them who let them down was it musharaf or nawaz sharif.
and now ahmed you have to get general musharaf in the same interview and ask him about what this man hamid gul has accused him off you have to do it and have to take a pledge from general saab that he will tell each and every detail. No restrictions
and lastly for me its pakistan and pakistan islam comes after my country thats what my fore fathers fought for through bullets swords and pens.
I thank you again that you answered me i am also your student and have made many of my uncles read ahmedquraishi.com i think if i can remember i posted my first comment there back in april of 2007.
Best Regards
Whilst Mush may have been a sell out and made many mistakes, and some actions not so much of mistakes as purposefully done so, I dont buy that he was a zionist agent. Yes, he could not take the moral position and yes he did make things worse for us on the whole, but if any one of us were in his shoes at that moment of time, only few of us would have made a decision other than what he made. Despite all the negative results of his actions, he did do some positives. Least one be the new MRP Pakistani passport and some others. He had his good and bad points. If bombs fell on Pakistan after Sept 11 then everyone would have cursed him. Maybe they wouldnt have but at least that was what he was up against. Ofcourse, when it also has to do with power, the decision becomes every more so easier.
We can sit and argue about what happened then, who was what, but that wont solve our problems. We Pakistani youth future of Pakistan need to wake up and start our movement of change. Each one of us has to educate ourself and find out what contribution they can make towards the creation of a true Islamic society. Gul has already given us the points. History needs to be reviewed and future needs to be written.
If best we can do is leave comments on blogs then that is what we are actually worth, is it so?
Hamid Gul! an hypocrite!!!
Dear AQ
May I suggest that when you or any analyst interviews our men in khakis ( serving or retired ) a deliberate focus should remain on the fact that our Defence Services do not represent a Black box. They are drawn from the same society that we all belong to, with similar opinions, biases and mindsets. They need not be approached with kid gloves as they are no sacred cows.
Hamid Gul is no saint. He is desperately trying to kickstart a second career for himself in politics,jumping into bed with equally opportunistic bedfellows like the Sharifs, the Maulanas and the corrupt and largely intellectually
challenged fraternity of the Black Coats.
The inroads made by Americans ( CIA in particular ) were maximum when he was on watch. His track record is indefensible and with his newly acquired cloak of nationalism he is attempting to sell his rhetoric to the youth. It is the likes of him who sowed the seeds of religious fanaticism and still continue to cultivate the same.
Unfortunately for Musharraf, he is from the migrant middle class background with no feudal/ dynastic
constituency to rely upon. The Army was his only constituency in a sense, but that too is inherently flawed in its composition by provincial considerations and faultlines of inter marriages within the feudal, industrial , political and ethnic classes holding Pakistan to ransom since Independence.
The consistent bogey of Military Rule versus Democracy is misleading in the case of Pakistan. By proxy the same class of usurpers rule the roost.That leaves the so called Religious parties which have been midwifed mostly by men in uniform.
Hence to expect a sincere leadership to emerge and galvanise Pakistan into the ideals of the Quaid is a big ask. The closest we came to that was the Musharraf/ Shaukat Aziz team who had no personal constituencies to keep in good humor and being unfettered always thought of Pakistan First and delivered on that a hundred percent.
With our demented brand of Feudal/ Dynastic democratic model the likes of Musharraf or Shaukat can never ever get ‘ elected ‘to any Parliament which repeatedly represents a clutch of Family Limited businesses with no love for Pakistan at all.
Perhaps a Pakistan First Party ( PFP )needs to be
organised that should challenge the staus quo and uproot this clique once for all !
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Very Nice and encouraging program Indeed .Those who are posting bad comments about hameed gul should at least listen the Program and than see if they agree with it or not .As far as I know ,I totally agree with whatever he said and he is right about the political parties .Though this is the only system which we has right now but these parties are run like family parties and truly lack democracy within them.
As a minimum it would be instructive to learn about the background of Hamid Gul who remains selfseeking and opportunistic in his shenanigans with politicians and so called islamists to gain advantage where ever he can exploit them.
His own track record while in service or later is absolutely disappointing. On his watch alone how many inroads the CIA made inside Pakistan is indefensible.Instead of backing and supporting the sincer efforts made by Musharraf in Paksitan;s interest, he always backstabbed him and undermined his position by joining the corrupt Sharifs and the black hearted blackcoats who themselves are politicised and midwifed the unlawful / unconstitutional restoration of Iftikhar chaudhry which still remains to be validated by the Assembly. Two wrongs dont make a right do they ? Why is Iftikhar now clay footed and why his promoters have distanced themselves from his impotency now ?
Well said, I still admired the dignity of Musharraf (although I respect Gen. Gul for patriotism – but why he was silent when tides were on Musharraf’s side, why for years the Mujahid were left on their own to give such a confident to one day stand against their own Army and Country? Gul can’t solely blame Musharraf for all this) and that despite of these goons spitting shit and are desperate on character assasination of Musharraf, Musharraf is showing patience and is not bother to get involved in war of wards.
Watch Mush’s latest interview on Dunya TV and then on GPS on CNN with Fareed Zakaria where Fareed tried his best to trick Mush to speak against most corrupt person Zardari but still he said “I wish him good luck and I pray for Pakistan”.
This type of character, all of these ppl lack.
Quite honestly, if all of us were to watch the CNN interview with Musharraf, it is clear that none of the analysts today are endorsing anything which was being articulated by Musharraf all along but we all sat back and allowed vested street power and lapdog media to dislodge Musharraf who was still patriotic enough to transfer power smoothly in the national interest.Had he wished , he could have clamped a Martial Law right away in 1999 or any time later.
Surprisingly, the current Army Operation in Swat and FATA is okay with everyone , which is exactly identical to the compulsions for the Lal Masjid Operation earlier. The only difference is perhaps in the scale of engagement.
erratum:
the second line should actually read as
‘ …. it is clear that none of the analysts today are endorsing anything DIFFERENT from what was being articulated by Musharraf all along ……
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wah, the great ending, no doubt man is inspired by the great poet of this century who’s doctrine and poetry carries the ocean of wisdom and each couplet of his poetry speaks million books and is worthmore than million speechs on heroism and patriotism.
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I hope the ISI smashes the political system in Pakistan and creates a single party just like they have in China
AOA ahmed bhai ur great awsm work done by PKKH team !!
i wuld like 2 share that U.S is now trying to capture the minds of our young generatin they have taken over poors by expesive food
rich by electric city and
rest by terroism
kindly do some thng to aware new generation!!
MAY ALLAH BLESS u and ur work!!
AMEEN
AOA
I am personally impressed from General Hamid Gul, great soldier & Ghazi.
Its a great effort by Ahmed Qureshi & Team in this regard who present this to youth. I think we should talk about these soldiers not traitors (Jewish) like Musharraf.