
The Sorry State of the Indian Army
January 21, 2009
If the below articles (by Indian writers) appearing in prominent publications over the last couple of days are to be believed, the Indian army was never in a state to confront Pakistan after the Mumbai attacks – despite the ramblings of Pranab Mukherjee. Surely they could’ve just sent Sunny Pa’ji armed with a waterpump, no?
India ready for war? Forces grapple with delays, red tape
Rajan Pandit | Times of India
NEW DELHI: For all its aspirations about becoming a superpower, India continues to fumble in formulating strategic plans to systematically build the country’s military “capabilities” in tune with its geopolitical objectives.
For one, the government is yet to finalise the 11th Defence Plan (2007-2012) due to wrangling between the finance and defence ministries. For another, similar is the fate of the much-touted LTIPP-2007-2022 (long-term integrated perspective plan) till now, say sources.
“Successive governments have failed to formulate budgetary plans with a concrete strategic underpinning,” said a top official. India does spend a lot on arms deals but it happens in a haphazard manner, without clear prioritisation, and is dogged by huge delays.
India’s defence expenditure, of course, has also fallen below 2% of its GDP for the first time in decades this fiscal despite military experts demanding at least 3%. Even as UPA government now belatedly fast-tracks procurement of military hardware and software in wake of 26/11, here’s a look at some of the gaps in military capabilities:
Nuclear Deterrence: India has Agni missiles as well as fighters to deliver nukes but no nuclear-powered submarines armed with nuclear-tipped missiles. The “nuclear triad” is still some four years away from completion, with the 25-year-old indigenous programme to build nuclear subs under the ATV (advanced technology vessel) project yet to come to fruition.
Submarines: To China’s 57 attack submarines and submarine-launched ballistic missiles, India has just 16 aging diesel-electric submarines, with huge serviceability problems. Only half of Navy’s 10 Russian Kilo-class, four German HDW and two virtually-obsolete Foxtrot submarines are operationally available. The Rs 18,798-crore Scorpene project will deliver six submarines only between 2012 and 2017. Pakistan, meanwhile, is building its submarine arm, inducting three French Agosta-90B vessels.
Fighters: Airpower may be decisive during wars but IAF continues to grapple with a free-fall in its fighter squadrons, down to 32 from its sanctioned strength of 39.5. Though 44 squadrons are needed to meet “a full conflict” with Pakistan, while maintaining “a dissuasive posture” against China, IAF will reach the 39.5 mark only by 2017. Delays in both the indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft as well as the procurement process for 126 new multi-role combat fighters in the $10.4 billion project has led to this situation.
Artillery: The Bofors ghost has derailed Army’s artillery modernisation plan, valued to be well over Rs 15,000 crore. There has been no induction of big guns since the 1986 procurement of 410 Bofors 155mm/39-calibre howitzers. Army wants to induct 400 155mm/52-calibre towed guns, with another 1,100 of them to be manufactured indigenously, in a Rs 8,000-crore project; 180 wheeled self-propelled howitzers for around Rs 4,700 crore; 140 air-mobile ultra-light howitzers for around Rs 2,900 crore.
Night-Fighting: Army, in particular, requires a strong dose of third-generation thermal imaging sights and night-vision devices. It wants to equip all its tanks, which include 1,200 T-72 tanks, with solid NF capabilities by around 2010-2011.
Aircraft Carriers: Navy has long demanded three carriers but it does not have even one operating at present since the ageing 28,000-tonne INS Viraat is currently undergoing another life-extension refit to ensure it can run for five more years.
Indian army ‘backed out’ of Pakistan attack
Siddharth Srivastava | Asia Times
NEW DELHI – Reluctance for battle by an ill-prepared army could have resulted in India not launching an attack on Pakistan in the aftermath of the Pakistan-linked terror attack in the Indian city of Mumbai on November 26 in which nearly 200 people died.
High-level government sources have told Asia Times Online that army commanders impressed on the political leadership in New Delhi that an inadequate and obsolete arsenal at their disposal mitigated against an all-out war.
The navy and air force, however, had given the government the go-ahead about their preparedness to carry out an attack and repulse any retaliation from Pakistan.
Over the past few weeks, it has become increasingly apparent from top officials in the know that the closed-door meetings of top military commanders and political leaders discussed the poor state of the armory (both ammunition and artillery), and that this tilted the balance in favor of not striking at Pakistan.
According to senior officials, following the attack on Mumbai by 10 militants linked to Pakistan, India’s top leadership looked at two options closely – war and hot pursuit.
Largely for the reasons cited above, the notion of an all-out war was rejected. Hot pursuit, however, remains very much on the table.
The government sources say that a framework for covert operations is being put in place, although India will continue to deny such actions. Crack naval, air and army forces backed by federal intelligence agencies will be involved. The target areas will be Pakistan-administered Kashmir and areas along the Punjab, such as Multan, where some of the Mumbai attackers are believed to have been recruited.
The coastal belt from the southern port city of Karachi to Gwadar in Balochistan province will also be under active Indian surveillance.
Thumbs down to war
Following the Mumbai attack, New Delhi’s inclination was to launch a quick strike against Pakistan to impress domestic opinion, and then be prepared for a short war, given the pressures that would be exercised by international powers for a ceasefire to prevent nuclear war breaking out.
The expectation of New Delhi was that the war would go beyond the traditional skirmishes involving artillery fire that take place at the Kashmir border, essentially to check infiltration by militants, or the brief but bloody exchanges at Kargil in 1999.
It was in this context that the army made it apparent that it was not equipped to fight such a war, given the military’s presence along the eastern Chinese borders, and that India was at risk of ceding territory should an instant ceasefire be brokered with Pakistan.
This would have been highly embarrassing, not to mention political suicide for the Congress-led government in an election year. So instead, New Delhi restricted itself to a strident diplomatic offensive that continues to date, and the option of hot pursuit.
The air force, on the other hand, was confident that it was prepared to take on the first retaliatory action by Pakistan, expected at forward air force bases along India’s borders in Rajasthan, Gujarat and Indian-administered Kashmir. The role of the navy in the operations was not clearly defined, but it was to cover from the Arabian Sea.
Not ready to fight
Various experts, former generals and independent reports have voiced concern over the past few years about the state of preparedness of the Indian army.
For example, the Bofors gun scandal of the 1980s stymied the army’s artillery modernization plan, with no induction of powerful guns since the 1986 purchase of 410 Bofors 155mm/39-caliber howitzers. The army has been trying to introduce 400 such guns from abroad and another 1,100 manufactured domestically, without success.
The latest report by the independent Comptroller and Auditor General said the state’s production of 23mm ammunition for Shilka anti-aircraft cannons and 30mm guns mounted on infantry combat vehicles lacked quality. Further, supply was nearly 35% short of requirements.
India’s huge tank fleet is in bad shape due to a shortage of Russian spare parts, while indigenous efforts, such as the main battle tank Arjun, have failed.
Signs of trouble emerged during the Kargil war when it was revealed that India’s defense forces were dealing with acute shortages in every sphere.
In remarks that underscored the problems, the then-army chief, V P Malik, said his forces would make do with whatever was in hand, given the fears of a full-scale war that was eventually avoided due to pressure by America, then under president Bill Clinton.
The Kargil review committee report noted, “The heavy involvement of the army in counter-insurgency operations cannot but affect its preparedness for its primary role, which is to defend the country against external aggression.”
Although there have been attempts to hasten India’s overall defense modernization program, estimated at over US$50 billion over the next five years, gaping holes need to be plugged, including corruption and massive delays in the defense procurement processes.
India’s defense expenditure has dipped below 2% of gross domestic product for the first time in decades, despite experts pegging 3% as adequate.
Other defense arms are in dire need of enhancement. Fighter jet squadrons are much below required strength, while the bidding process for medium fighter planes has only just begun and may take a few years to complete.
Meanwhile, the prospects of an India-Pakistan conflict are not over. India’s army chief, General Deepak Kapoor, said last week that Pakistan had redeployed troops from its Afghan border to the western frontier with India. “The Indian army has factored this in its planning,” Kapoor said.
Siddharth Srivastava is a New Delhi-based journalist. He can be reached at sidsri@yahoo.com.






















































INDiAN WANT SOME COME GET SOME……..
we will kick on your a**..INDIANZ suck my Di**
i think we should start preparing now to assest our army when india finally attacks pakistan!!!
Its clear that they are going to attack us… and not much time is left… hardly 2 years according to me!!1 so be preparing!
Islam zindabad!
Pakistan Payindabad!
It is now requirement to use what we made.
Our aggressive moves will keep their mouth shut and eyes open. which will let them help in remembering their actual place.
ALLAH HO AKBAR,
Pakistan Zindabad
Islam will live for a long long time and Pakistan was made in the name of Allah, and Islam is the religion of it’s people we will by the grace of Allah will survive as we have been surviving for the past 60+ years.
Insha Allah, with the help of ALLAH…we can easily defeat India.
it is better to go pre-emptively aggressive as it i the only form of defense for statisticaly week. But probably there is too much foriegn pressure to bear..
What ever, nations rise only under most desperate
situations. Keep faith beyond hoplessness of media
garb…
Anti – climax has reached its full, get ready for sunrise
Pakistanis … prepare for glory !!!!!
Alhamdulillah we have a strong military but we won;t progress until and unless we change the mindset of our people. We sure were built on the name of ISLAM but today that is not the case because our nation is not following ISLAM at all. We need to follow ISLAM the way it is suppose to be followed. Unfortunately we all have made our own Islam on the name of various cults. The truth is that we are all divided and when something is about to happen to us than we start talking about ALLAH and its help coming. WHAT ARE OUR DEEDS? ARE WE DOING WHAT WE AS MUSLIMS ARE SUPPOSE TO DO? We as a nation as Pakistanis are not doing what we are suppose to do.
assalamo alaikum
agr india ya samajhta hay k wo war kar sakta hay to usay khod bhi malom hay k us k sath kya ho ga wo ya ghalti nahain karay ga agar karay ga to bhogtay ga pakistani chahay unki movies dekhtay hon magar wo pehlay muslim us k bad pakistani hain. or shahadat ki maot kis ko pasand nahain. ham her lamha tayar hain hamara ALLAH hamaray sath hay jis k nam pay ya mulk hay wo khod iski hifazat karay ga.
IALAM ZINDABAD PAKISTAN PAINDABAD
Choovavas bark but they can not bite but even if they do( out of Fear), it will be no more than a Scrach. However, when the lions of Islam bite, they break your (Hindus) Neck. Their poor Sardar gee, Just had a heart attack? please do not Stress him out more, he is not a bad guy. He Just reads, what is presented to him, gareeb Log.
But on the other hand, their megit PM is something else, probably a grandson of the Iblees. By the way, I heard, each time he(The PM) gives an interview and talks about Pakistan, he goes to Bathroom (toilet), what you Folks think, he does? you have Following choices;
A.He is an old man, may be he gets an urge to urinate ?
B. OR he eats too much Masoor Kee DALL with chapattis and can not hold his…. Number two?
C. All of the above?
D. None of the above
The answer is “D” that is none of the above, Because he has already done both No: 1& 2, in his paints, While he is threatening Pakistan. He goes to the Toilet, Just to change his Diaper.
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Never thinks u r enemies is weaker he is urs enemies
kabi kabi over confidence bi lai dubta hai
haan hum ko zarorat hai apnay army ko stronger karnay ki we need more armored and solider..
Army needs u
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INDIA IS JUST A BARKING DOG & MUKAR G IS THE BIGGST DOG. ALL INDIAN START BARKING BUT REMEMBER ALWAYS
PAKISTAN WILL REMAIN ALWAYS ON THIS EARTH AS A REFULGENT STRAT( INSHALLAH)BCZ ITS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT CAME INTO EXISTANCE ON THE NAME OF ” ISLAM”.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD.
pakistan has lost three wars to india and it still sqeals like a loser insisting it won. zameen, jaan aur iman, sab khaeraat mein mili hai, shukrguzar raho, samajhdaari isme hi hai ki apni seema, had aur awkaad mein raho.
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stupid fools think of development than war…
pakiyon agar gand me dum hai to aar paar ki ladai karo..
terrorist kyu bhejte ho..
bhul gaye 3 bar haar chuke ho..kargil me pith dikha ke bhaage vo alag
ab to sharam karo paki kutton..
sambhal jao
nahi to pure pak me kabristan banange
Look who ios talking about sending terrorists into their country….TTP ko tumaharey baapoo ji nei training dee hei kia..go and ask your spy agencies about how they
have made total asses of your nation and been sponsoring terror in Pakistan for the past decades. Bloody Idiot.